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Postby daletournier » Sat Jun 29, 2013 10:20 pm

Hi all , after having the luxury of bumming around on boats pretty well fulltime for 5 years I'm going to start alternating 3-4 months cruising with 3-4 months back home in Aust (business and girlfriend duty) . I'm trying to plan my sailing and are thinking of circumnavigating in stages. As the red sea is not a option due to the pirate situation (which is my prefered route ) the Indian ocean to Sth Africa is the way l must go.
Ideally I'd like to buy a bigger boat but logistically ( time and money ) finding and fitting out a boat to the Same standard as Freeform is not something l want to do . Ive learn't knowing your boat is worth a lot .
l've never sailed Freeform in big Ocean swells or In wind over 35 K I've been fortunate with weather, . Has anyone had experience with Ocean crossing in a Freedom Sloop and share any bad habits they may have that l don't know about ? I'd prefer to find out now prior to half way across Indian Ocean . Also what preventer setups are people using on Freedom sloops?
It's still a while of as l want to do Borneo and Sulawesi next So probably won't leave Bali or Darwin until 2015.
All advice is welcome .
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Re: Bluewater

Postby Rick Simonds » Sun Jun 30, 2013 10:52 am

Hi Dale,

I've been using one of these as a boom brake for a few years:

http://www.wichard.com/fiche-A%7CWICHAR ... 00-ME.html

Here's a YouTube of it. It could be easily set to slow the boom more than this shows. My installation is very similar to this one, though. It is aft of the solid vang using the boom bale that the old rope vang used

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAtYgQRNJ-Y

Inexpensive, simple, sturdy, easy to install and use. It can be adjusted to just slow the boom down or, with all 3 loops in and a tightened line, it pretty much stops the boom entirely. Stores below and sets up and stows in just a minute or two.

No complaints. I like it.
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Re: Bluewater

Postby daletournier » Sun Jun 30, 2013 6:13 pm

Thanks Rick.
Cheer's Dale .
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Re: Bluewater

Postby GeoffSchultz » Mon Jul 01, 2013 7:00 am

The first time that I made the trip from Newport, RI to the BVIs it didn't blow less than 33 kts for the first 5-6 days. The boat was much happier than the crew was and handled it just fine. If I learned anything, it was that the 1st reef is relatively useless because it adds more belly to the sail than it reduces sail area, so what you really want are 2nd and 3rd reefs, so rig for that.

I've put over 40,000 miles in BlueJacket and as long as you maintain her, she'll get you through just about anything. Constantly check for issues and correct them as soon as you find or suspect something, otherwise it'll come back to bite you at the worst possible time.

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Re: Bluewater

Postby rbrown739 » Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:05 pm

Hi Dale,

I sailed my Hoyt F32 from San Francisco to Hawaii many years ago. I learned that using the gunmount spinnaker was pretty scarey with any kind of rolling sea as the spinnaker pole nearly goes into the water often. I only tried that once. After about a week of my crew and I hand steering the bearing in the pedestal for the wheel started to squeak quite a bit. Attempting to grease it at sea was difficult and didn't seem to have any effect. Once I put the auto pilot on the squeak instantly went away. Nothing else to report. The boat did fine and averaged 6 knots over the 14 day transit.

Bob, Carina Hoyt F32
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Re: Bluewater

Postby daletournier » Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:01 am

Thanks for the reply's . l agree with your advice Geoff and got rid of my first reef Some time ago. In regards to steering l plan on replacing cables etc prior to leaving . Even though it add's 900 NM to my trip I've decided to head back to Darwin Aust and leave from there as l can do a very thorough refit in 0z ( although expensive )which would be difficult in Bali or Borneo. The lack of ease to heave to l think is something l consider to be a Issue . In saying that its a matter of coming up with coping stratagies that suit the boat. Hydrovane , jib sheeted tight and running combined with the option of a Series drogue or forereaching should cover most situations . The only real limitations l see with Freeform is storage ... quite good for a 32 foot boat ... yet it still is a 32 foot boat and l keep loading her as if she's 40 foot.
On another note its So cool to have another adventure to prepare for .... Man really does need something to look forward to.
Cheer's Dale
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Re: Bluewater

Postby mtryon » Fri Jul 19, 2013 3:26 am

rbrown739 wrote:Hi Dale,

I sailed my Hoyt F32 from San Francisco to Hawaii many years ago. I learned that using the gunmount spinnaker was pretty scarey with any kind of rolling sea as the spinnaker pole nearly goes into the water often. I only tried that once. After about a week of my crew and I hand steering the bearing in the pedestal for the wheel started to squeak quite a bit. Attempting to grease it at sea was difficult and didn't seem to have any effect. Once I put the auto pilot on the squeak instantly went away. Nothing else to report. The boat did fine and averaged 6 knots over the 14 day transit.

Bob, Carina Hoyt F32


Bob,
Not to hijack this thread, but by any chance was your F32 hull #15 and originally from R.I. by way of Ohio, and then trucked to California?

Thanks,

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