WHERE'E MY HULL I.D.?

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WHERE'E MY HULL I.D.?

Postby markmuk » Fri Feb 27, 2015 1:18 am

My insurance company is asking for a photo of the hull identification of my recently purchased Freedom 25, but I've searched high and low and can't find it :roll:

Boats I've had in the past the hull I.D. it cast into the transom gel coat, but I've yet to find it. Any ideas?

Thanks!
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Re: WHERE'E MY HULL I.D.?

Postby peaceandfreedom » Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:43 am

The HID on all my Freedoms (including 3 F25's) has been on the transom starboard top corner.

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WHERE'E MY HULL I.D.?

Postby markmuk » Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:06 am

:o IT'S NOT THERE!
I've examined every square inch of my F25's transom and the hull identification number isn't there. How is it possible that a boat manufactured after the law went into effect in 1972 could NOT have a HID cast into the gel coat? My insurance company requires a dated photo of the HID - if I can't find it, I'm up the creek without a paddle....... :o
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Re: WHERE'E MY HULL I.D.?

Postby midnightsailor » Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:23 pm

do you know if the hull was ever painted ? If so it's possible whoever did the job just faired over the numbers while doing the transom and then painted it. If so some careful sanding might reveal it.
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Re: WHERE'E MY HULL I.D.?

Postby 1980raven » Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:51 pm

Before you go sanding you transom you might check with the Coast Guard. I am told that all production FG boats have a second hidden HID# and that the CG knows the location for each vessel. It should be hidden under a piece of hardware. Paul Dennis of Warren River Boatworks, Warren, RI may know the location.
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Re: WHERE'E MY HULL I.D.?

Postby markmuk » Tue Mar 03, 2015 2:43 pm

Thanks guys,

My boat appears to have the original, dark blue gel coat without any subsequent painting.

A "hidden HIN" - I like it!

I'll check with the sources and see what I can come up with.

Thanks again,
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Re: WHERE'E MY HULL I.D.?

Postby VeloFellow » Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:51 pm

My Freedom 30 (28) Cat Ketch built in 1981 By Fairways Marine has the hull number inside the cockpit- starboard stern and little numbers....

Oooh, secret numbers.
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I FOUND IT!

Postby markmuk » Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:13 am

It was there all along.... :oops:

It turns out that the navy blue on my hull is Awlgrip paint rather than gel coat and the coating over the HIN makes it invisible at anything over six feet. Just for giggles, I reached over and ran my fingertips along the transom where the numbers should be and what do you know - they were there, albeit just barely, but good enough.
It took BRAILLE to find them!

Thanks to all :D
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Re: WHERE'E MY HULL I.D.?

Postby dwight » Wed Mar 04, 2015 1:18 pm

Take a rubbing of the numbers, they should show up quite clearly. Position a piece of paper over the numbers, and lightly rub a pencil over the entire area. The pencil will darken all areas except the recesses forming the numbers. Its a simple technique to master. I find that using a dull-pointed pencil and rubbing at a 45-degree angle produces the best results.

The hull identification number (HIN) is a twelve-digit number required to be located on the transom within 2" of the shear and 2" of the starboard hull side, or on the starboard hull side, within 2" of the shear and 2" of the transom. Note that the "sugar-scoop" swim platform added to many Freedom 36's covers the original HIN.

The format pre-84 should be XXX9999M99X. The first three digits, letters, are the Coast Guard assigned manufacturer identification code (MIC). The next five digits, letters or numbers, are the unique hull number assigned by the builder. Many builders, including TPI and Freedom, use the first two of these digits to identify the model and the last three to indicate the sequential number for the hull. The letter "M" is a place holder. The next two digits are the model year. The last digit, a letter assigned by the builder, represents the month the boat was either molded or completed.

As of August 1, 1984, the format changed slightly to become XXX99999X999. The first three digits are the Coast Guard assigned manufacturer identification code. The next five digits are the unique number assigned by the builder. The next letter represents the month the boat was molded followed by the last digit of the year it was molded. The last two digits are the model year.

A two letter country designation is permitted as prefix, separated by a dash from the HIN. Additional builder-assigned digits may be added at the end separated from the HIN by a dash. A plan requiring additional digits, including a "check-sum" was suggested but not implemented.

In 1984, builders were also required to put a second HIN somewhere else in the boat. This earned the nicknamed the "hidden HIN," but hidden is a subjective term. The hidden HIN can be found under the companionway seahood on many TPI built sailboats. Other areas to look are inside the propane locker, in the gutter of one of the molded cockpit hatches, or in the molded hatch to the engine space.

Note that only the original builder may assign and afix the HIN to a new boat, and approval of the Commandant of the Coast Guard is required to change an existing HIN.
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Re: WHERE'E MY HULL I.D.?

Postby dolescs » Wed Jun 14, 2017 10:56 am

I removed my bronze hull ID Placard that is on the riser for the first step of my Freedom 30. I've somehow missplaced it. any idea how I can confirm the hull# of my Freedom so I could get another placard made?
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