In-Boom Furling Systems

In-Boom Furling Systems

Postby svjoyous » Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:33 am

F45 CC Considering changing to In-Boom furling system (either Furlboom or Leisure Furl). Seeking information from anyone with boat this size that has done it. Alan (svjoyous)
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Re: In-Boom Furling Systems

Postby Brian Duff » Thu Apr 23, 2009 2:19 pm

do you want information from someone who has installed these systems, or an owner of this system installed on a boat?

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Re: In-Boom Furling Systems

Postby Brian Duff » Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:18 pm

have you called Alan Massey? - http://www.yachtprojectsetc.com/ He is the builder of the leading and top quality boom furling system and is happy to explain his system to you. He has put a number of them on both the 40 and 45.

"The more critical aspect is working closely with the sailmaker to account for the top of the mast bending off to leeward. Furling can be done easily, but the sail has to be completely unloaded and the spar straight. The top cannot bend off with a powered up sail and still furl properly." - Alan Massey

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Re: In-Boom Furling Systems

Postby GeoffSchultz » Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:50 pm

Brian Duff wrote:"The more critical aspect is working closely with the sailmaker to account for the top of the mast bending off to leeward. Furling can be done easily, but the sail has to be completely unloaded and the spar straight. The top cannot bend off with a powered up sail and still furl properly." - Alan Massey


Call me confused...who's furling a sail that's powered up? I'm dead into the wind when I'm dropping mine...

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Re: In-Boom Furling Systems

Postby THATBOATGUY » Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:31 pm

Hey Brian,

It's George Huffman here. We keep bumping into each other... heh heh I do want to take you up on that cup of coffee sometime soon. We are back in Edgewater after a great trip on that boat your dad brokered. I'm happy to say it was everything it was advertised to be.

And welcome to the Freedom Forum :)

Geoff,

Wouldn't it be great to be able to furl while powered up? You could just keep an eye on your heal and rudder angle and stop when you get her just where you want her... maybe some day.

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Re: In-Boom Furling Systems

Postby Brian Duff » Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:30 am

I know, from the great number of problems that we have with clients and their boom furlers, that many folks do not understand completely how furl boomfurled sails properly.

The greatest number of issues with Jams Or damage come from the sail working fore or aft on teh mandel, as most of you know this is either a boom angle or sail power issue. Being sure that the sail is completely luffing is significantly important with the Leisure Furl system. While somehitng like that may be obvious to you, from our point of view it is quite clearly not obvious to everyone, even those that have been specifiacally warned of this upon installation of their boom furler.

The biggest issue with boom furlers, or any furlers, or anything on a BOAT is that its easy to do things wrong and cause major problems. I cannot think of any system on a boat that doesn't have this problem, except maybe freedom rig tunning!


George - How are you sir? Since we last spoke i myself have given up coffee, but we can meet for a drink! I didn't know you had a Freedom 40 - I would love to get out sailing with you sometime. While we had a smaller steel cat ketch some years ago, and liked it , i have never sailed the freedom 40 CK, but its on my list - how about a free 'dynamic rig tune' ? LOL

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Re: In-Boom Furling Systems

Postby THATBOATGUY » Sun Apr 26, 2009 1:13 pm

We can work something out beverage wise, I don't drink alcohol since 1984... heh heh

When we finally get the boat back to the stage at which we can start sailing her again I'll let you know. I'll try and come by your shop next week sometime if the weather holds up.

OK, back to rigging...

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Re: In-Boom Furling Systems

Postby FullMonty » Fri Jul 31, 2009 6:27 am

I did this on the Full Monty. I installed a Schaffer boom furler and a solid boom vang. all went well till I got into high wind 30 knts and choppy sea 6 to 8 ft. When I returned to the dock I found the bolts between the boom and gooseneck were sheared off but didn't seperate. Schaffer backed up the product and rebuilt and beefed up the connection between the boom and gooseneck. Schaffer insisted on installing running backstays to the top of the mast. I insisted that the solid boomvang be replaced with a spring loaded vang to reduce stress on the gooseneck. I recently got into a storm reaching 50 knts. I now plan to use my spare main haylard as a topping lift to keep the boom form coming down far and damaging my dodger.
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Re: In-Boom Furling Systems

Postby Freespirit » Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:20 pm

Hello Full Monty,

We have a Freedom 45 and are currently researching in boom furlers. We really liked the Schaffer system, but are worried about mounting it to the carbon fiber mast and the stress on the gooseneck. We sailed 14,000 miles after leaving Long Beach, Ca. in the last year and a half, are currently in Fiji and are on our way to New Zealand this fall. So we will definitely see high winds and rough sea's with all of our sailing.
We would love to know your decision behind getting the Schaffer and if you would do it again or if you would recommend us looking at a different brand. With a carbon fiber mast, it really makes this decision challenging!
Is it possible to see a photo of your mount?
Thank you for any help you can give us.
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