1987 Mull 28 Rudder Failure

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Posted by lioneldmp7 (doug.payne@…>)

You may recall my post in panic in November around the rudder failure
suffered at Thanksgiving. Thought you might all like to hear the
outcome since it involves a very capable vendor. When we pulled the
boat we discovered a “bloody stump” right at the point where the
rudder shaft exits the hull. The rudder had sheared off at that
point. All that was left was shreaded fiberglass. From all I could
learn from the gods of Freedom and my posting, I was only the second
documented rudder failure in the fleet. Went to work to find a vendor
who could build a new rudder. Freedom lost the rudder plans for the
28, the molds were long gone, and Gary Mull’s widow didn’t respond to
repeated emails and phone calls. So no plans available. Got referred
to David Schwartz, President of GMT Composites and things started
moving very well. They did a super job in about 30 days getting a
custom rudder built. Carbon shaft, foam core, wrapped in carbon. This
rudder is a work of art and is similar technolgy to what they build
for very serious race boats. My expereince with GMT couldn’t have
been better. We didn’t have plans or molds. I sent them what was left
of the shaft and we found a 28 on the hard 7 miles from their
factory. They sent an engineer over and reverse engineered the
rudder. Once we got in production it was about three weeks and I had
digital photos every couple days to watch my baby be hatched. Shipped
the rudder, the local yard did the install and we had our first sail
this past week end, the boat handled beautifully.

Thanks to GMT, they have my highest recommendation. Not an
inexpensive solution, but good old State Farm came through on the
claim. So if anyone else looses a rudder, we have a solution.

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Posted by Lorman, Alvin J. (ajlorman@…>)

Thanks for sharing the good outcome with us. Hopefully, no one will have to take advantage of your hard-earned experience in crafting a new rudder.

I’d like to second your praise of GMT Composites. I send en email to their tech service people a while ago when I wanted to drill a few holes in my mast. I told them I did not have a GMT mast, but that I didn’t know where else to turn. I got a prompt and informative reply. I hope I never need their services to replace a lost mast or rudder, but I do know they’re the ones I’d go to if necessary.

Al Lorman
F30 Ab Initio

-----Original Message-----From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lioneldmp7Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 7:53 PMTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: [freedomyachts2003] 1987 Mull 28 Rudder FailureYou may recall my post in panic in November around the rudder failure suffered at Thanksgiving. Thought you might all like to hear the outcome since it involves a very capable vendor. When we pulled the boat we discovered a “bloody stump” right at the point where the rudder shaft exits the hull. The rudder had sheared off at that point. All that was left was shreaded fiberglass. From all I could learn from the gods of Freedom and my posting, I was only the second documented rudder failure in the fleet. Went to work to find a vendor who could build a new rudder. Freedom lost the rudder plans for the 28, the molds were long gone, and Gary Mull’s widow didn’t respond to repeated emails and phone calls. So no plans available. Got referred to David Schwartz, President of GMT Composites and things started moving very well. They did a super job in about 30 days getting a custom rudder built. Carbon shaft, foam core, wrapped in carbon. This rudder is a work of art and is similar technolgy to what they build for very serious race boats. My expereince with GMT couldn’t have been better. We didn’t have plans or molds. I sent them what was left of the shaft and we found a 28 on the hard 7 miles from their factory. They sent an engineer over and reverse engineered the rudder. Once we got in production it was about three weeks and I had digital photos every couple days to watch my baby be hatched. Shipped the rudder, the local yard did the install and we had our first sail this past week end, the boat handled beautifully. Thanks to GMT, they have my highest recommendation. Not an inexpensive solution, but good old State Farm came through on the claim. So if anyone else looses a rudder, we have a solution.
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Posted by Alan Kusinitz (akusinitz@…>)


Would you be willing to share the cost?
Alan





From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lioneldmp7
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006
7:53 PM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] 1987 Mull 28 Rudder Failure

You may recall my post in
panic in November around the rudder failure
suffered at Thanksgiving. Thought you might all
like to hear the
outcome since it involves a very capable vendor.
When we pulled the
boat we discovered a “bloody stump”
right at the point where the
rudder shaft exits the hull. The rudder had
sheared off at that
point. All that was left was shreaded fiberglass. From
all I could
learn from the gods of Freedom and my posting, I
was only the second
documented rudder failure in the fleet. Went to
work to find a vendor
who could build a new rudder. Freedom lost the
rudder plans for the
28, the molds were long gone, and Gary Mull’s
widow didn’t respond to
repeated emails and phone calls. So no plans
available. Got referred
to David Schwartz, President of GMT Composites and
things started
moving very well. They did a super job in about 30
days getting a
custom rudder built. Carbon shaft, foam core,
wrapped in carbon. This
rudder is a work of art and is similar technolgy
to what they build
for very serious race boats. My expereince with
GMT couldn’t have
been better. We didn’t have plans or molds. I sent
them what was left
of the shaft and we found a 28 on the hard 7 miles
from their
factory. They sent an engineer over and reverse
engineered the
rudder. Once we got in production it was about
three weeks and I had
digital photos every couple days to watch my baby
be hatched. Shipped
the rudder, the local yard did the install and we
had our first sail
this past week end, the boat handled beautifully.

Thanks to GMT, they have my highest
recommendation. Not an
inexpensive solution, but good old State Farm came
through on the
claim. So if anyone else looses a rudder, we have
a solution.




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Posted by Payne, Doug (doug.payne@…>)


Eight grand for the rudder plus shipping
and about a grand at the yard to retrieve the boat, pull it, install the
rudder, bottom paint on the rudder, re launch, etc.

••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••

Douglas M. Payne
Managing
Partner Dallas Ft. Worth
Tatum,
LLC
5956
Sherry Lane
Suite 1000 PMB 101
Dallas, Texas 75225
office ••• 972.496.2700
mobile ••• 972.953.8065
doug.payne@…
www.tatumllc.com





From:
freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Kusinitz
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006
9:25 AM
To:
freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003]
1987 Mull 28 Rudder Failure

Would you be willing to share the cost?
Alan





From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lioneldmp7
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006
7:53 PM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] 1987 Mull 28 Rudder Failure

You may recall my post in
panic in November around the rudder failure
suffered at Thanksgiving. Thought you might all
like to hear the
outcome since it involves a very capable vendor.
When we pulled the
boat we discovered a “bloody stump”
right at the point where the
rudder shaft exits the hull. The rudder had
sheared off at that
point. All that was left was shreaded fiberglass.
From all I could
learn from the gods of Freedom and my posting, I
was only the second
documented rudder failure in the fleet. Went to
work to find a vendor
who could build a new rudder. Freedom lost the
rudder plans for the
28, the molds were long gone, and Gary Mull’s
widow didn’t respond to
repeated emails and phone calls. So no plans
available. Got referred
to David Schwartz, President of GMT Composites and
things started
moving very well. They did a super job in about 30
days getting a
custom rudder built. Carbon shaft, foam core,
wrapped in carbon. This
rudder is a work of art and is similar technolgy
to what they build
for very serious race boats. My expereince with
GMT couldn’t have
been better. We didn’t have plans or molds. I sent
them what was left
of the shaft and we found a 28 on the hard 7 miles
from their
factory. They sent an engineer over and reverse
engineered the
rudder. Once we got in production it was about
three weeks and I had
digital photos every couple days to watch my baby
be hatched. Shipped
the rudder, the local yard did the install and we had
our first sail
this past week end, the boat handled beautifully.

Thanks to GMT, they have my highest
recommendation. Not an
inexpensive solution, but good old State Farm came
through on the
claim. So if anyone else looses a rudder, we have
a solution.



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Posted by Alan Kusinitz (akusinitz@…>)


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From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Payne, Doug
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006
7:00 PM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003]
1987 Mull 28 Rudder Failure

Eight grand for the rudder plus shipping
and about a grand at the yard to retrieve the boat, pull it, install the
rudder, bottom paint on the rudder, re launch, etc.

••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••

Douglas M. Payne
Managing
Partner Dallas Ft. Worth
Tatum,
LLC
5956
Sherry Lane
Suite 1000 PMB 101
Dallas, Texas 75225
office ••• 972.496.2700
mobile ••• 972.953.8065
doug.payne@…
www.tatumllc.com





From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Kusinitz
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006
9:25 AM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003]
1987 Mull 28 Rudder Failure

Would you be willing to share the cost?
Alan





From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lioneldmp7
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006
7:53 PM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] 1987 Mull 28 Rudder Failure

You may recall my post in
panic in November around the rudder failure
suffered at Thanksgiving. Thought you might all
like to hear the
outcome since it involves a very capable vendor.
When we pulled the
boat we discovered a “bloody stump”
right at the point where the
rudder shaft exits the hull. The rudder had
sheared off at that
point. All that was left was shreaded fiberglass.
From all I could
learn from the gods of Freedom and my posting, I
was only the second
documented rudder failure in the fleet. Went to
work to find a vendor
who could build a new rudder. Freedom lost the
rudder plans for the
28, the molds were long gone, and Gary Mull’s
widow didn’t respond to
repeated emails and phone calls. So no plans
available. Got referred
to David Schwartz, President of GMT Composites and
things started
moving very well. They did a super job in about 30
days getting a
custom rudder built. Carbon shaft, foam core,
wrapped in carbon. This
rudder is a work of art and is similar technolgy
to what they build
for very serious race boats. My expereince with
GMT couldn’t have
been better. We didn’t have plans or molds. I sent
them what was left
of the shaft and we found a 28 on the hard 7 miles
from their
factory. They sent an engineer over and reverse
engineered the
rudder. Once we got in production it was about
three weeks and I had
digital photos every couple days to watch my baby
be hatched. Shipped
the rudder, the local yard did the install and we
had our first sail
this past week end, the boat handled beautifully.

Thanks to GMT, they have my highest
recommendation. Not an
inexpensive solution, but good old State Farm came
through on the
claim. So if anyone else looses a rudder, we have
a solution.


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