Posted by Dave_Benjamin (dave_benjamin@…>)
It may be of interest to you to learn that the Freedom
38 is literally a Freedom 36 with a two foot swim
step, or “sugar scoop” extension.
We like the 36 and came close to buying one before we found our 39.
I’ve got a couple of questions about this post. Didn’t the 38 have a
larger foretriangle for the headsail or am I just remembering things
incorrectly? For some reason I thought that was a change in the 36.
Another related question. On the 38 is there any sort of pass-thru to
the swim platform?
For those of you considering the 36 I know the factory used to offer
swim platforms that you could retrofit to the 36. The price on these
platforms was fairly reasonable. When we were looking at the 36’s we
talked to Mark Edwards about adding the platform. I think it was about
2 grand plus shipping back then which was probably late 90’s.
Posted by macks011 (macks04@…>)
I’m not aware if a larger foresail was available on the later 38’s.
The Pedrick 35 which replaced the Mull boats had a larger jib.
The sugar scoop extension was available for the 86-89 F36’s as a
bolt on kit. It was a marketing move by TPI and also was made
available for Pearsons of the day. The kit was still available from
Freedom as of last years yard sale, $1500.00 US FOB Warren RI.
Installation required the rerouting of the exhaust. The push pit
remained the same and you had to climb over the lower rail as you
would on an unmodified 36.
The '89’s had the extension done in the mold and easier stern access
was designed in, but I don’t believe you would consider it a walk
thru transom. Either way, The 89-91 F38’s and the earlier 36’s
were the exact same boats.
As an aside, the Pedric 35 which replaced the 36/38 was a much
smaller boat. The interior had a more modern layout with the mid
ship head placement, but it only had the interior volume of a 33.
39s2003@yahoogroups.com, “Dave_Benjamin” <dave_benjamin@y…> wrote:
It may be of interest to you to learn that the Freedom
38 is literally a Freedom 36 with a two foot swim
step, or “sugar scoop” extension.
We like the 36 and came close to buying one before we found our
I’ve got a couple of questions about this post. Didn’t the 38 have
a
larger foretriangle for the headsail or am I just remembering
things
incorrectly? For some reason I thought that was a change in the
Another related question. On the 38 is there any sort of pass-thru
to
the swim platform?
For those of you considering the 36 I know the factory used to
offer
swim platforms that you could retrofit to the 36. The price on
these
platforms was fairly reasonable. When we were looking at the 36’s
we
talked to Mark Edwards about adding the platform. I think it was
about
2 grand plus shipping back then which was probably late 90’s.
Posted by Dave_Benjamin (dave_benjamin@…>)
As an aside, the Pedrick 35 which replaced the 36/38 was a much
smaller boat. The interior had a more modern layout with the mid
ship head placement, but it only had the interior volume of a 33.
The Pedrick designed 35 strikes me as a better performing boat. I have
no way of knowing for sure since I haven’t had a chance to sail one.
You’re right about it having the interior volume of a 33 footer. In
essence that’s all it is. It’s a 33 foot boat with swim platform that
makes it a 35 in the same fashion that a swim platform added to the 36
makes it a 38.
I think if I had a 36/38 I’d look at flying a Code Zero from the
masthead. I know that sort of thing has been done before. You’d have
to add running backstays. If the Code Zero was flown from a sprit and
mounted on a furler you’d have a pretty slick setup. Anyone want to
try it out?
Posted by William A. Cormack (wacormack@…>)
I’d love to try it out! Where is your boat located??
Bill
William A. Cormack, CPA
Principal and Chief Financial Officer
Whelan Associates, LLC, a Corporate Real Estate Service Firm
100 Faunce Corner Executive Center, Suite 150
500 Faunce Corner Road
North Dartmouth, MA 02747
Voice: 508-984-4100, Fax: 508-984-4101, Cell 508-254-5828
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From: “Dave_Benjamin” <dave_benjamin@…>
To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 01/18/2006 3:00 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: 36 - 38
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As an aside, the Pedrick 35 which replaced the 36/38 was a much
smaller boat. The interior had a more modern layout with the mid
ship head placement, but it only had the interior volume of a 33.
The Pedrick designed 35 strikes me as a better performing boat. I have
no way of knowing for sure since I haven’t had a chance to sail one.
You’re right about it having the interior volume of a 33 footer. In
essence that’s all it is. It’s a 33 foot boat with swim platform that
makes it a 35 in the same fashion that a swim platform added to the 36
makes it a 38.
I think if I had a 36/38 I’d look at flying a Code Zero from the
masthead. I know that sort of thing has been done before. You’d have
to add running backstays. If the Code Zero was flown from a sprit and
mounted on a furler you’d have a pretty slick setup. Anyone want to
try it out?
Yahoo! Groups Links
Posted by Mike Kovacic (sailslakemichigan@…>)
Muskegon, Michigan Given our conditions, it will be about 4 months before it is in the H2O! Mike"William A. Cormack" <wacormack@…> wrote: I’d love to try it out! Where is your boat located??Bill_________________________________________________William A. Cormack, CPAPrincipal and Chief Financial OfficerWhelan Associates, LLC, a Corporate Real Estate Service Firm100 Faunce Corner Executive Center, Suite 150500 Faunce Corner RoadNorth Dartmouth, MA 02747Voice: 508-984-4100, Fax: 508-984-4101, Cell 508-254-5828MailTo:wacormack@…----- Original Message ----- From: “Dave_Benjamin” <dave_benjamin@…>To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>Sent: 01/18/2006 3:00 PMSubject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: 36
- 38> >> >> As an aside, the Pedrick 35 which replaced the 36/38 was a much >> smaller boat. The interior had a more modern layout with the mid >> ship head placement, but it only had the interior volume of a 33.>>> The Pedrick designed 35 strikes me as a better performing boat. I have> no way of knowing for sure since I haven’t had a chance to sail one.> You’re right about it having the interior volume of a 33 footer. In> essence that’s all it is. It’s a 33 foot boat with swim platform that> makes it a 35 in the same fashion that a swim platform added to the 36> makes it a 38. > > I think if I had a 36/38 I’d look at flying a Code Zero from the> masthead. I know that sort of thing has been done before. You’d have> to add running backstays. If the Code Zero was flown from a sprit and> mounted on a furler you’d have a pretty slick setup. Anyone
want to> try it out?> > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links> > > > > > >
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Posted by macks011 (macks04@…>)
ahhhh…running backstays. Kinda goes against the Freedom Concept,
yes?
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Dave_Benjamin”
<dave_benjamin@y…> wrote:
As an aside, the Pedrick 35 which replaced the 36/38 was a much
smaller boat. The interior had a more modern layout with the mid
ship head placement, but it only had the interior volume of a 33.
The Pedrick designed 35 strikes me as a better performing boat. I
have
no way of knowing for sure since I haven’t had a chance to sail
one.
You’re right about it having the interior volume of a 33 footer. In
essence that’s all it is. It’s a 33 foot boat with swim platform
that
makes it a 35 in the same fashion that a swim platform added to
the 36
makes it a 38.
I think if I had a 36/38 I’d look at flying a Code Zero from the
masthead. I know that sort of thing has been done before. You’d
have
to add running backstays. If the Code Zero was flown from a sprit
and
mounted on a furler you’d have a pretty slick setup. Anyone want to
try it out?
Posted by Jerome Weinraub (zayde@…>)
No. Standard on F33 mizzen.
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From: “macks011” <macks04@…>
To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 5:44 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: 36 - 38
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ahhhh…running backstays. Kinda goes against the Freedom Concept,
yes?
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Dave_Benjamin”
<dave_benjamin@y…> wrote:
As an aside, the Pedrick 35 which replaced the 36/38 was a much
smaller boat. The interior had a more modern layout with the mid
ship head placement, but it only had the interior volume of a 33.
The Pedrick designed 35 strikes me as a better performing boat. I
have
no way of knowing for sure since I haven’t had a chance to sail
one.
You’re right about it having the interior volume of a 33 footer. In
essence that’s all it is. It’s a 33 foot boat with swim platform
that
makes it a 35 in the same fashion that a swim platform added to
the 36
makes it a 38.
I think if I had a 36/38 I’d look at flying a Code Zero from the
masthead. I know that sort of thing has been done before. You’d
have
to add running backstays. If the Code Zero was flown from a sprit
and
mounted on a furler you’d have a pretty slick setup. Anyone want to
try it out?
Yahoo! Groups Links
Posted by Dave_Benjamin (dave_benjamin@…>)
I’m in between large boats right now but I’d be happy to help someone
else put it on their boat. I have sail a import business -
www.islandplanetsails.com
If we do something like that we’d have to have guinea pig to use for a
prototype then we could offer it to everyone. The advantage of being
the guinea pig is you get everything you need at greatly reduced cost.
But you do have to play guinea pig.
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “William A. Cormack”
<wacormack@w…> wrote:
I’d love to try it out! Where is your boat located??
Bill
William A. Cormack, CPA
Principal and Chief Financial Officer
Whelan Associates, LLC, a Corporate Real Estate Service Firm
100 Faunce Corner Executive Center, Suite 150
500 Faunce Corner Road
North Dartmouth, MA 02747
Voice: 508-984-4100, Fax: 508-984-4101, Cell 508-254-5828
MailTo:wacormack@w…
----- Original Message -----
From: “Dave_Benjamin” <dave_benjamin@y…>
To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 01/18/2006 3:00 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: 36 - 38
As an aside, the Pedrick 35 which replaced the 36/38 was a much
smaller boat. The interior had a more modern layout with the mid
ship head placement, but it only had the interior volume of a 33.
The Pedrick designed 35 strikes me as a better performing boat. I have
no way of knowing for sure since I haven’t had a chance to sail one.
You’re right about it having the interior volume of a 33 footer. In
essence that’s all it is. It’s a 33 foot boat with swim platform that
makes it a 35 in the same fashion that a swim platform added to the 36
makes it a 38.
I think if I had a 36/38 I’d look at flying a Code Zero from the
masthead. I know that sort of thing has been done before. You’d have
to add running backstays. If the Code Zero was flown from a sprit and
mounted on a furler you’d have a pretty slick setup. Anyone want to
try it out?
Yahoo! Groups Links
Posted by Dave_Benjamin (dave_benjamin@…>)
Small price to pay for the performance gain. Running backstays aren’t
that big a deal. Many of the Freedoms that have done Transpac added
running backs and flew big kites from the masthead. I’ve sailed the 36
and it’s not that impressive off the wind. In fact our 39 was able to
pull a horizon job on the 36’s when sailing deeper angles. I don’t
even think the 36 rates as fast as a Ranger 33. Don’t get me wrong.
It’s a great boat and I’d love to have one. I just know I’d want a lot
more horsepower off the wind. Otherwise I’d have to have another 39.
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “macks011” <macks04@o…> wrote:
ahhhh…running backstays. Kinda goes against the Freedom Concept,
yes?
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Dave_Benjamin”
<dave_benjamin@y…> wrote:
As an aside, the Pedrick 35 which replaced the 36/38 was a much
smaller boat. The interior had a more modern layout with the mid
ship head placement, but it only had the interior volume of a 33.
The Pedrick designed 35 strikes me as a better performing boat. I
have
no way of knowing for sure since I haven’t had a chance to sail
one.
You’re right about it having the interior volume of a 33 footer. In
essence that’s all it is. It’s a 33 foot boat with swim platform
that
makes it a 35 in the same fashion that a swim platform added to
the 36
makes it a 38.
I think if I had a 36/38 I’d look at flying a Code Zero from the
masthead. I know that sort of thing has been done before. You’d
have
to add running backstays. If the Code Zero was flown from a sprit
and
mounted on a furler you’d have a pretty slick setup. Anyone want to
try it out?
Posted by Rees Midgley (rmidgley@…>)
The problem with running backstays on the 36/38 may be the full leech
on the main. I believe it would get caught on the backstay during a
tack or jibe. I say this based on the diagram of the boat in the
Freedom manual. Similarly, use of a boom stay would be even worse.
The leech on the 36/38 runs far aft of any line from the masthead to
the stern of the boat.
On Jan 18, 2006, at 8:51 PM, Dave_Benjamin wrote:
Small price to pay for the performance gain. Running backstays aren’t
that big a deal. Many of the Freedoms that have done Transpac added
running backs and flew big kites from the masthead. I’ve sailed the 36
and it’s not that impressive off the wind. In fact our 39 was able to
pull a horizon job on the 36’s when sailing deeper angles. I don’t
even think the 36 rates as fast as a Ranger 33. Don’t get me wrong.
It’s a great boat and I’d love to have one. I just know I’d want a lot
more horsepower off the wind. Otherwise I’d have to have another 39.
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “macks011” <macks04@o…>
wrote:
ahhhh…running backstays. Kinda goes against the Freedom Concept,
yes?
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Dave_Benjamin”
<dave_benjamin@y…> wrote:
As an aside, the Pedrick 35 which replaced the 36/38 was a much
smaller boat. The interior had a more modern layout with the mid
ship head placement, but it only had the interior volume of a 33.
The Pedrick designed 35 strikes me as a better performing boat. I
have
no way of knowing for sure since I haven’t had a chance to sail
one.
You’re right about it having the interior volume of a 33 footer. In
essence that’s all it is. It’s a 33 foot boat with swim platform
that
makes it a 35 in the same fashion that a swim platform added to
the 36
makes it a 38.
I think if I had a 36/38 I’d look at flying a Code Zero from the
masthead. I know that sort of thing has been done before. You’d
have
to add running backstays. If the Code Zero was flown from a sprit
and
mounted on a furler you’d have a pretty slick setup. Anyone want to
try it out?
Yahoo! Groups Links
Posted by Michael G Katz (mgkatz@…>)
I chartered a 35 (deep keel) before I bought my 38 (wing keel). The Pedrick designed 35 (and 40/40) are supposed to be designed with a little more emphasis on speed, but I wouldn’t say the 35 is a faster boat than the 38. In fact, I have some PHRF data from NE Base Handicaps 2001 which shows the 38 rated 138 and the 35 (WK) rated 144, for whatever that is worth. (40/40 WK is rated an impressive 99.)
I do think that the 38 has a nicer motion than the 35, and feels like a bigger boat–and that is an opinion shared by a delivery skipper I’ve spoken to who is familiar with these boats. But the 35 had a nice interior, and due to its beam and fairly long waterline, did not seem like a small boat to us. The nice head with shower stall was a real plus, although the nav station doesn’t compare well to the one on the 38 with the dedicated swivel seat. For those of us used to sailing boats from the 70s or 80s, the F 35 is a very roomy 35 footer–much more so than my old Ted Hood Bristol 35.5, for example.
Michael Katz
F-38 Acquittal
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From: Dave_Benjamin
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 1:00 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: 36 - 38
As an aside, the Pedrick 35 which replaced the 36/38 was a much > smaller boat. The interior had a more modern layout with the mid > ship head placement, but it only had the interior volume of a 33.>The Pedrick designed 35 strikes me as a better performing boat. I haveno way of knowing for sure since I haven’t had a chance to sail one.You’re right about it having the interior volume of a 33 footer. Inessence that’s all it is. It’s a 33 foot boat with swim platform thatmakes it a 35 in the same fashion that a swim platform added to the 36makes it a 38. I think if I had a 36/38 I’d look at flying a Code Zero from themasthead. I know that sort of thing has been done before. You’d haveto add running backstays. If the Code Zero was flown from a sprit andmounted on a furler you’d have a pretty slick setup. Anyone want totry it out?
Posted by Dave Evans (dave@…>)
There are two brothers Dunn in Massachusetts, one with a Pedrick 35 and the
other a Mull 36. I should find out if they had any one-on-ones last summer.
dge
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From: “Dave_Benjamin” <dave_benjamin@…>
To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 3:00 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: 36 - 38
\
As an aside, the Pedrick 35 which replaced the 36/38 was a much
smaller boat. The interior had a more modern layout with the mid
ship head placement, but it only had the interior volume of a 33.
The Pedrick designed 35 strikes me as a better performing boat. I have
no way of knowing for sure since I haven’t had a chance to sail one.
You’re right about it having the interior volume of a 33 footer. In
essence that’s all it is. It’s a 33 foot boat with swim platform that
makes it a 35 in the same fashion that a swim platform added to the 36
makes it a 38.
I think if I had a 36/38 I’d look at flying a Code Zero from the
masthead. I know that sort of thing has been done before. You’d have
to add running backstays. If the Code Zero was flown from a sprit and
mounted on a furler you’d have a pretty slick setup. Anyone want to
try it out?
Yahoo! Groups Links
Posted by Dave_Benjamin (dave_benjamin@…>)
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Michael G Katz”
<mgkatz@c…> wrote:
In fact, I have some PHRF data from NE Base Handicaps 2001 which
shows the 38 rated 138 and the 35 (WK) rated 144, for whatever that is
worth. (40/40 WK is rated an impressive 99.)
I do think that the 38 has a nicer motion than the 35, and feels
like a bigger boat–and that is an opinion shared by a delivery
skipper I’ve spoken to who is familiar with these boats.
Not sure how much PHRF racing experience you have but the 6 sec/mile
diff between a standard F-38 (deep fin?) and a wing keel version of
the 35 is unremarkable. A wing keel 35 doesn’t point as well as one
with a proper fin and carries additional ballast to compensate for the
shoal draft. The 38 probably has a bit more waterline. I wonder if
anyone ever put together polars for these boats.
Posted by Dave_Benjamin (dave_benjamin@…>)
You loosen one running back and tighten the other one during a jibe.
You can also use a fitting that will allow the running backs to attach
a little aft of the masthead. Running backs were used on several
Freedoms for west coast racing. One of my acquaintances did some of
the prep work on those boats for the Hawaii races. A reef in the main
could lessen concerns as well. I guarantee if you’re flying 1000 plus
square feet of spinnaker the reefed main won’t be too noticeable in
terms of performance loss.
The problem with running backstays on the 36/38 may be the full leech
on the main. I believe it would get caught on the backstay during a
tack or jibe. I say this based on the diagram of the boat in the
Freedom manual. Similarly, use of a boom stay would be even worse.
The leech on the 36/38 runs far aft of any line from the masthead to
the stern of the boat.
- Rees Midgley
On Jan 18, 2006, at 8:51 PM, Dave_Benjamin wrote:
Small price to pay for the performance gain. Running backstays aren’t
that big a deal. Many of the Freedoms that have done Transpac added
running backs and flew big kites from the masthead. I’ve sailed the 36
and it’s not that impressive off the wind. In fact our 39 was able to
pull a horizon job on the 36’s when sailing deeper angles. I don’t
even think the 36 rates as fast as a Ranger 33. Don’t get me wrong.
It’s a great boat and I’d love to have one. I just know I’d want a lot
more horsepower off the wind. Otherwise I’d have to have another 39.
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “macks011” <macks04@o…>
wrote:
ahhhh…running backstays. Kinda goes against the Freedom Concept,
yes?
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Dave_Benjamin”
<dave_benjamin@y…> wrote:
As an aside, the Pedrick 35 which replaced the 36/38 was a much
smaller boat. The interior had a more modern layout with the mid
ship head placement, but it only had the interior volume of a 33.
The Pedrick designed 35 strikes me as a better performing boat. I
have
no way of knowing for sure since I haven’t had a chance to sail
one.
You’re right about it having the interior volume of a 33 footer. In
essence that’s all it is. It’s a 33 foot boat with swim platform
that
makes it a 35 in the same fashion that a swim platform added to
the 36
makes it a 38.
I think if I had a 36/38 I’d look at flying a Code Zero from the
masthead. I know that sort of thing has been done before. You’d
have
to add running backstays. If the Code Zero was flown from a sprit
and
mounted on a furler you’d have a pretty slick setup. Anyone want to
try it out?
Yahoo! Groups Links
Posted by William Nordquist (wdndmd@…>)
Dave, I monitor the chatter on this group and have gained an appreciation for your expertise in sailing. You often refer to your former boat and my boat, Freedom 40 Entropy, with nostalgia. You are welcome to come to San Diego and sail with me. Just let me know when you wold like to sail. BillDave_Benjamin <dave_benjamin@…> wrote: Small price to pay for the performance gain. Running backstays aren’tthat big a deal. Many of the Freedoms that have done Transpac addedrunning backs and flew big kites from the masthead. I’ve sailed the 36and it’s not that impressive off the wind. In fact our 39 was able topull a horizon job on the 36’s when sailing deeper angles. I don’teven think the 36 rates as fast as a Ranger 33. Don’t get me
wrong.It’s a great boat and I’d love to have one. I just know I’d want a lotmore horsepower off the wind. Otherwise I’d have to have another 39.— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “macks011” wrote:>> ahhhh…running backstays. Kinda goes against the Freedom Concept, > yes?> > > > — In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Dave_Benjamin” > wrote:> >> > > > > > > > As an aside, the Pedrick 35 which replaced the 36/38 was a much > > > smaller boat. The interior had a more modern layout with the mid > > > ship head placement, but it only had the interior volume of a 33.> > >> > The Pedrick designed 35 strikes me as a better performing boat. I > have> > no way of knowing for sure since I haven’t had a chance to sail > one.> > You’re right about it
having the interior volume of a 33 footer. In> > essence that’s all it is. It’s a 33 foot boat with swim platform > that> > makes it a 35 in the same fashion that a swim platform added to > the 36> > makes it a 38. > > > > I think if I had a 36/38 I’d look at flying a Code Zero from the> > masthead. I know that sort of thing has been done before. You’d > have> > to add running backstays. If the Code Zero was flown from a sprit > and> > mounted on a furler you’d have a pretty slick setup. Anyone want to> > try it out?> >>Yahoo! Groups Links<> To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/freedomyachts2003/<> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:freedomyachts2003-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject
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Posted by Dave_Benjamin (dave_benjamin@…>)
Dave,
I monitor the chatter on this group and have gained an
appreciation for your expertise in sailing. You often refer to your
former boat and my boat, Freedom 39 Entropy, with nostalgia. You are
welcome to come to San Diego and sail with me. Just let me know when
you wold like to sail.
Bill
Bill,
Thanks so much for your kind words. I’m not sure how much expertise I
lay claim to but I’ve been around boats for most of my life. Entropy
is a marvelous boat. Every so often my lovely wife asks me if “our
boat” is back on the market by any chance, even though we’re totally
tapped out between our properties. She really loved Entropy. It was a
fabulous liveaboard and comfortable and safe offshore. We hope you’re
enjoying the table. Not sure if I ever told you we spent months
working on the design and it took over a year to have built.
It wouldn’t take much arm twisting to get us to fly down to San Diego
for a visit and a sail. I was on a sistership recently for a lighted
boat parade and that brought back some good feelings even though we
were just motoring around. Are you sailing much in the winter months?
Dave
Posted by Jacqui MacConnell (jacimacc@…>)
And consider adding a leg on your flight. Feel free to
come a bit norther, and take Sparrow out into the San
Juans, if you like! Excellent connections from San
Diego to Bellingham via Alaska/Horizon Air.
Captain Jac, SPARROW the Freedom Fan List’s
San Juan/ Gulf Island host 360 671-3434
— Dave_Benjamin <dave_benjamin@…> wrote:
Dave,
I monitor the chatter on this group and have
gained an
appreciation for your expertise in sailing. You
often refer to your
former boat and my boat, Freedom 39 Entropy, with
nostalgia. You are
welcome to come to San Diego and sail with me. Just
let me know when
you wold like to sail.
Bill
Bill,
Thanks so much for your kind words. I’m not sure how
much expertise I
lay claim to but I’ve been around boats for most of
my life. Entropy
is a marvelous boat. Every so often my lovely wife
asks me if “our
boat” is back on the market by any chance, even
though we’re totally
tapped out between our properties. She really loved
Entropy. It was a
fabulous liveaboard and comfortable and safe
offshore. We hope you’re
enjoying the table. Not sure if I ever told you we
spent months
working on the design and it took over a year to
have built.
It wouldn’t take much arm twisting to get us to fly
down to San Diego
for a visit and a sail. I was on a sistership
recently for a lighted
boat parade and that brought back some good feelings
even though we
were just motoring around. Are you sailing much in
the winter months?
Dave
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Posted by Dave_Benjamin (dave_benjamin@…>)
Jac,
We can drive to Bellingham. Be delighted to join you up there when the
weather improves. I was planning on going up to Everett to visit a few
liveaboard friends. We can just keep steaming north.
And consider adding a leg on your flight. Feel free to
come a bit norther, and take Sparrow out into the San
Juans, if you like! Excellent connections from San
Diego to Bellingham via Alaska/Horizon Air.
Captain Jac, SPARROW the Freedom Fan List’s
San Juan/ Gulf Island host 360 671-3434
— Dave_Benjamin <dave_benjamin@y…> wrote:
Dave,
I monitor the chatter on this group and have
gained an
appreciation for your expertise in sailing. You
often refer to your
former boat and my boat, Freedom 39 Entropy, with
nostalgia. You are
welcome to come to San Diego and sail with me. Just
let me know when
you wold like to sail.
Bill
Bill,
Thanks so much for your kind words. I’m not sure how
much expertise I
lay claim to but I’ve been around boats for most of
my life. Entropy
is a marvelous boat. Every so often my lovely wife
asks me if “our
boat” is back on the market by any chance, even
though we’re totally
tapped out between our properties. She really loved
Entropy. It was a
fabulous liveaboard and comfortable and safe
offshore. We hope you’re
enjoying the table. Not sure if I ever told you we
spent months
working on the design and it took over a year to
have built.
It wouldn’t take much arm twisting to get us to fly
down to San Diego
for a visit and a sail. I was on a sistership
recently for a lighted
boat parade and that brought back some good feelings
even though we
were just motoring around. Are you sailing much in
the winter months?
Dave
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Posted by Jacqui MacConnell (jacimacc@…>)
LOVE that! All the best. We will very much enjoy
seeing you.
Cheers! Jacqui Mac
— Dave_Benjamin <dave_benjamin@…> wrote:
Jac,
We can drive to Bellingham. Be delighted to join you
up there when the
weather improves. I was planning on going up to
Everett to visit a few
liveaboard friends. We can just keep steaming north.
And consider adding a leg on your flight. Feel
free to
come a bit norther, and take Sparrow out into the
San
Juans, if you like! Excellent connections from San
Diego to Bellingham via Alaska/Horizon Air.
Captain Jac, SPARROW the Freedom Fan
List’s
San Juan/ Gulf Island host 360 671-3434
— Dave_Benjamin <dave_benjamin@y…> wrote:
Dave,
I monitor the chatter on this group and have
gained an
appreciation for your expertise in sailing. You
often refer to your
former boat and my boat, Freedom 39 Entropy,
with
nostalgia. You are
welcome to come to San Diego and sail with me.
Just
let me know when
you wold like to sail.
Bill
Bill,
Thanks so much for your kind words. I’m not sure
how
much expertise I
lay claim to but I’ve been around boats for most
of
my life. Entropy
is a marvelous boat. Every so often my lovely
wife
asks me if “our
boat” is back on the market by any chance, even
though we’re totally
tapped out between our properties. She really
loved
Entropy. It was a
fabulous liveaboard and comfortable and safe
offshore. We hope you’re
enjoying the table. Not sure if I ever told you
we
spent months
working on the design and it took over a year to
have built.
It wouldn’t take much arm twisting to get us to
fly
down to San Diego
for a visit and a sail. I was on a sistership
recently for a lighted
boat parade and that brought back some good
feelings
even though we
were just motoring around. Are you sailing much
in
the winter months?
Dave
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