Posted by Sward (swardfullsail@…>)
I am having the mast hauled tomorrow-Tueaday. I just took a couple of
pictures of the cracks. I know there has been a lot of discussion of
these cracks and most have said that they are superficial. These
concern me-seem deep. What do you think?
I don’t know how to attach pictures this way so will try something else-
you may get two email from me.
Sward
Posted by Sward (swardfullsail@…>)
I am having the mast hauled tomorrow-Tueaday. I just took a couple of pictures of the cracks. I know there has been a lot of discussion of these cracks and most have said that they are superficial. These concern me-seem deep. What do you think?I don’t know how to attach pictures this way so will try something else-you may get two email from me.Sward
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Posted by lolaltd (lolaltd@…>)
-Sward…this is about the quality of the photos…can you stand back
a little? They look blurred a bit.
Having said that…
I don’t know about cracks, but did post those that were on the DECK of
the boat I was considering. The cracks were around the mast directly
on the deck, as well as many windows.
Yours look like paint…I thought your mast was black…looks lighter
than I remember. Could look like that as so close.? How deep are the
cracks?
I want to follow comments on this problem you are having, and if
correction and how will be made.
I wish you the best.
Any ideas from the boatyard you are at?
Lola
Posted by Al Lorman (ajl@…>)
Sward:
Is
that the section of the mast that is thicker to take the stress of the boom
attachment? If so, I think what you see are cracks in the fairing
compound, not the mast.
Al
Lorman
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I am having the mast hauled
tomorrow-Tueaday. I just took a couple of
pictures of the cracks. I know there has been a lot of discussion of
these cracks and most have said that they are superficial. These
concern me-seem deep. What do you think?
I don’t know how to attach pictures this way so will try something else-
you may get two email from me.
Sward
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Posted by Fred Molden (fmolden@…>)
It looks like the mast has an external
collar, most likely to attach the gooseneck and distribute the loading.
Some of the newer masts have an internal collar. The cracking looks to be
the fairing compound.
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Carbon Fiber Mast Cracks
Sward:
Is that the section of the mast that is thicker to take the
stress of the boom attachment? If so, I think what you see are cracks in
the fairing compound, not the mast.
Al Lorman
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[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sward
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008
1:47 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Fw: [FreedomOwnersGroup]
Carbon Fiber Mast Cracks
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I am having the
mast hauled tomorrow-Tueaday. I just took a couple of
pictures of the cracks. I know there has been a lot of discussion of
these cracks and most have said that they are superficial. These
concern me-seem deep. What do you think?
I don’t know how to attach pictures this way so will try something else-
you may get two email from me.
Sward
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Posted by Alan Kusinitz (akusinitz@…>)
These appear to be the covering over the part that for the
gooseneck which is not the mast itself since I believe the gooseneck reinforcement
wraps around the actual mast. This could mean its not that important but I can’t
say for sure. My F-33 has a different arrangement so the mast does not have
this bulging area for the gooseneck like most but they all used the same
underlying mast.
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[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sward
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 1:47 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Fw: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Carbon Fiber Mast Cracks
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I am having the mast hauled
tomorrow-Tueaday. I just took a couple of
pictures of the cracks. I know there has been a lot of discussion of
these cracks and most have said that they are superficial. These
concern me-seem deep. What do you think?
I don’t know how to attach pictures this way so will try something else-
you may get two email from me.
Sward
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Posted by Alan Kusinitz (akusinitz@…>)
When I’ve had my masts out I find its easy to look up from the
bottom with a good light and see well past the gooseneck.
Alan F- 33 Hull #51 1982
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Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 1:36 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Carbon Fiber Mast Cracks
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I am having the mast hauled tomorrow-Tueaday. I
just took a couple of
pictures of the cracks. I know there has been a lot of discussion of
these cracks and most have said that they are superficial. These
concern me-seem deep. What do you think?
I don’t know how to attach pictures this way so will try something else-
you may get two email from me.
Sward
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Posted by Herman and Gail Schiller (hschiller2@…>)
If your camera has a closeup (or macro) mode, you need to use it to
clear up the focus of these pictures. Herm
At 01:46 PM 10/20/2008, you wrote:
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I am having the mast hauled tomorrow-Tueaday. I just took a couple of
pictures of the cracks. I know there has been a lot of discussion of
these cracks and most have said that they are superficial. These
concern me-seem deep. What do you think?I don’t know how to attach pictures this way so will try something else-
you may get two email from me.Sward
Posted by Herman and Gail Schiller (hschiller2@…>)
I tend to agree. A similar condition was evident on my wingmast of
the F-25 I owned. Herm
At 02:07 PM 10/20/2008, you wrote:
Sward:
Is that the section of the mast that is thicker to take the stress
of the boom attachment? If so, I think what you see are cracks in
the fairing compound, not the mast.Al Lorman
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sward
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 1:47 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Fw: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Carbon Fiber Mast CracksI am having the mast hauled tomorrow-Tueaday. I just took a couple of
pictures of the cracks. I know there has been a lot of discussion of
these cracks and most have said that they are superficial. These
concern me-seem deep. What do you think?I don’t know how to attach pictures this way so will try something else-
you may get two email from me.Sward
Posted by lance_ryley (lance_ryley@…>)
Sward,
if the cracks are horizontal and you have the black masts, there is
very little to worry about - they seem deep but it’s in the mud they
used to coat the masts, which didn’t have enough elasticity for the
nature of the masts. If you have vertical cracks, or you have cracks
in any orientation in one of the white masts, then you should probably
have it surveyed.
For the record, Sponberg, who designed the original masts, thinks the
black mud should be removed and an extra layer of glass be added to
the mast, then repainted with Awlgrip. However, based on the fact that
I had TWO of those masts, each 27 years old when I sold Bright Star, I
think he’s just being cautious.
Lance
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “Sward” <swardfullsail@…>
wrote:
I am having the mast hauled tomorrow-Tueaday. I just took a couple of
pictures of the cracks. I know there has been a lot of discussion of
these cracks and most have said that they are superficial. These
concern me-seem deep. What do you think?I don’t know how to attach pictures this way so will try something else-
you may get two email from me.Sward
Posted by Bob (rweeks6508@…>)
SwardUnder that section of the mast is a SS collar and the cracks are just the fairing compound coming apart. Structurally I have been total there is nothing to worry about unless you see rust color coming out, then the collar is rusting somewhere. You need to inspect the boom joint into that collar and make sure there is no rust around that area. The collar thing is to give more strength to the boom area and joint.BobOn Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Al Lorman wrote:Sward: Is that the section of the mast that is thicker to take the stress of the boom attachment? If so, I think what you see are cracks in the fairing compound, not the mast. Al Lorman From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Sward Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 1:47 PM To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Fw: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Carbon Fiber Mast Cracks I am having the mast hauled tomorrow-Tueaday. I just took a couple of pictures of the cracks. I know there has been a lot of discussion of these cracks and most have said that they are superficial. These concern me-seem deep. What do you think? I don’t know how to attach pictures this way so will try something else- you may get two email from me. Sward
Posted by Rick Higgens (higgens@…>)
I had similar hairline cracks in the fairing on my F30 and while my
mast was out and I was having Paul Dennis change some lights, I had
him repair it as I thought it would be a technical fix. He just
ground out the old fairing (he said Freedom used bondo here on early
masts which dries out and “gets hairline cracks”. He just re-faired
it (not sure what he used), sanded and spray painted. Knowing the fix
I would do this myself if there ever was a need. But you never know
without the Expert opinion.
Rick F30 #12 Nauti-Belle
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, Bob <rweeks6508@…> wrote:
Sward
Under that section of the mast is a SS collar and the cracks are just
the fairing compound coming apart. Structurally I have been total
there
is nothing to worry about unless you see rust color coming out, then
the
collar is rusting somewhere. You need to inspect the boom joint into
that collar and make sure there is no rust around that area. The
collar
thing is to give more strength to the boom area and joint.Bob
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Al Lorman wrote:
Sward:
Is that the section of the mast that is thicker to take the stress of
the boom attachment? If so, I think what you see are cracks in the
fairing compound, not the mast.Al Lorman
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne
rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Sward
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 1:47 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Fw: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Carbon Fiber Mast CracksI am having the mast hauled tomorrow-Tueaday. I just took a couple of
pictures of the cracks. I know there has been a lot of discussion of
these cracks and most have said that they are superficial. These
concern me-seem deep. What do you think?I don’t know how to attach pictures this way so will try something else-
you may get two email from me.Sward