Posted by tom (ketch_22@…>)
sounds like a great idea. I assume you use the running backstay just
like for a
regular mizzen staysail?
Alan F-33 Hull 51 1982
That’s correct. Same as when I fly the spinnaker staysail.
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Any chance of photos or dimensions for the staysail that you use as a
storm trysail
for Ketch 22?
Thanks.
Thomas
F-33 L’Audace
I don’t have any pictures of the storm staysail. I have pictures of
Ketch 22 on San Francisco Bay at
http://home.earthlink.net/~svs.1/
flying the spinnaker staysail. Same concept, just a much smaller
sail. I am not aboard now. I can measure the sail next weekend and
forward the dimensions.
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I heard from several Freedom caketch sailors (F33’s) who did
Atlantic crossings that a Freedom catketch can sail quite well under
bare poles.
Michel
I’ve heard/read that too. I’ve not had the misfortune of actually
verifying it though.
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Tom,
when you do this, do you rig your primary mizzen halyard as a
topping lift/backstay, or use the running backstays to keep the mast
vertical? I’ve often wondered about using the staysail in this way,
but was afraid that the forward flexing of the mast without the
mizzen raised to help stiffen it might be problematic.
Lance
I have two large reefs in main and mizzen. There isn’t much sail left
on the mizzen after the second reef. In the Gulf of the Farralones in
40 knots with 2 reefs in mizzen and one in the main I was quite
comfortable. I hope I never experience conditions that make me feel
that I have to lower both main and mizzen and just fly the storm staysail.
En route to Hawaii however, I was watching with extreme interest the
flexing at the top of the mast when the spinnaker staysail was flying
in about 22 knots of breeze. Made me very nervous, to the point where
I lowered the staysail as a precaution. That occurred with the full
mizzen up. I think as a result of the experience that the mizzen
halyard doesn’t do anything that the running backstays don’t.
I could use the main halyard as you suggest, and I also have a
dedicated topping lift that I use when the mizzen is down. It keeps
the boom off the bimini.
tm
Ketch 22
F39 - Express
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— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “tom” <ketch_22@e…>
wrote:
On Ketch 22, I use a small staysail as a storm trisail. It’s
rigged
in front of the mizzen mast which keeps the center of effort mid
ship,
uses the spare halyard to raise, and is attached to an adjustable
car
on a track on the cabin top for fore and aft tuning. The sheets
are
led aft through snatch blocks attached to the toe rail.
No holes in the mast and good sail balance.
Tom Marlow
Ketch 22
F39 - Express
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “tom11995588”
<tvesey@n…>
wrote:
I’m hoping to enter some ocean races that require storm trysail,
and
am scratching my head
about how to go about it on my Freedom 44 cat ketch. The
traditional
way would be to put a
separate track up the side of a mast for the storm sail…but
everybody is wary about drilling
in carbon masts… let alone the series of holes that would be
required for a strong extra track.
So what to do? Has anybody out there in carbon mast/ cat-ketch
world
done this?
Any thoughts would be most appreciated.
Tom Vesey
Jackrabbit (Freedom 44)
Bermuda