Posted by Lola Jackson (lolaltd@…>)
Hello,My sailor friend, would like to make a Down Haul on my mail sail…for ease for me due to my size.Have any of you done that? Can you give a few details please?Thank you.Lola F30
Posted by Al Lorman (ajl@…>)
Lola:
I
made one for my jib, but I think a downhaul for the main is not likely to be terribly
effective (though I may be wrong). A downhaul is simply a line attached
to the top of a sail and run through a block at the base of the mast so you can
pull on something to help gravity lower the sail. I solved the mainsail lowering
issue by installing a Strong Track and associated hardware on the sail.
With this set up, you release the main halyard and get out of the way very
quickly so you’re not hit by the sail coming down.
Al
From:
FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Lola Jackson
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 8:06 PM
To: freedom group
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Down Haul
\
Hello,
My sailor friend, would like to make a Down Haul on my mail sail…for ease
for me due to my size.
Have any of you done that? Can you give a few details please?
Thank you.
Lola F30
\
\
Posted by lance_ryley (lance_ryley@…>)
Second on the strong track recommendation 
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “Al Lorman” <ajl@…>
wrote:
Lola:
I made one for my jib, but I think a downhaul for the main is not
likely to
be terribly effective (though I may be wrong). A downhaul is
simply a line
attached to the top of a sail and run through a block at the base
of the
mast so you can pull on something to help gravity lower the sail.
I solved
the mainsail lowering issue by installing a Strong Track and
associated
hardware on the sail. With this set up, you release the main
halyard and
get out of the way very quickly so you’re not hit by the sail
coming down.Al
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lola
Jackson
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 8:06 PM
To: freedom group
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Down HaulHello,
My sailor friend, would like to make a Down Haul on my mail
sail…for ease
for me due to my size.Have any of you done that? Can you give a few details please?
Thank you.
Lola F30
Posted by Lola Jackson (lolaltd@…>)
Al,Not knowing anything about this…may I ask…to do it on the main…would it damage the mast at all?I also found out my boat is number 49I washed the sails in the slip…she sure is pretty.Lola— On Sun, 9/21/08, Al Lorman <ajl@…> wrote:From: Al Lorman <ajl@…>Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Down HaulTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comDate: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 8:39 PM
Lola: I
made one for my jib, but I think a downhaul for the main is not likely to be terribly
effective (though I may be wrong). A downhaul is simply a line attached
to the top of a sail and run through a block at the base of the mast so you can
pull on something to help gravity lower the sail. I solved the mainsail lowering
issue by installing a Strong Track and associated hardware on the sail.
With this set up, you release the main halyard and get out of the way very
quickly so you¢re not hit by the sail coming down. Al
From:
FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On
Behalf Of Lola Jackson
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 8:06 PM
To: freedom group
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Down Haul
Hello,
My sailor friend, would like to make a Down Haul on my mail sail…for ease
for me due to my size.
Have any of you done that? Can you give a few details please?
Thank you.
Lola F30
\
\
Posted by Bob Weeks (rweeks6508@…>)
Al
Nice article in the Good Old Boat
mag! Are the seat easy to put on and take off……when cruising on
longer trip the area is also used as a back rest. But I like the idea of
being higher up.
Bob
From:
FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Al Lorman
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008
8:39 PM
To:
FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup]
Down Haul
Lola:
I made one for my jib, but I think a downhaul for the main is
not likely to be terribly effective (though I may be wrong). A downhaul
is simply a line attached to the top of a sail and run through a block at the
base of the mast so you can pull on something to help gravity lower the sail.
I solved the mainsail lowering issue by installing a Strong Track and
associated hardware on the sail. With this set up, you release the main
halyard and get out of the way very quickly so you’re not hit by the sail
coming down.
Al
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lola Jackson
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008
8:06 PM
To: freedom group
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup]
Down Haul
\
Hello,
My sailor friend, would like to make a Down Haul on my mail sail…for ease
for me due to my size.
Have any of you done that? Can you give a few details please?
Thank you.
Lola F30
\
\
Posted by Bob Weeks (rweeks6508@…>)
On my Doyle Sails I don’t have the
bearing track system but a monthly spray of QuikLube on the plastic lugs seems
to work pretty but the are also still new. But you are right release the
halyard get out of the way. There is an article somewhere on the net about how
to rig a device so you can haul a spray can of quiklube up the track and lub
the track all the way to the top. If anyone has seen it please give us the
URL.
Bob
From:
FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lance_ryley
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008
12:37 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re:
Down Haul
Second on the strong track recommendation
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com,
“Al Lorman” <ajl@…>
wrote:
Lola:
I made one for my jib, but I think a downhaul for the main is not
likely to
be terribly effective (though I may be wrong). A downhaul is
simply a line
attached to the top of a sail and run through a block at the base
of the
mast so you can pull on something to help gravity lower the sail.
I solved
the mainsail lowering issue by installing a Strong Track and
associated
hardware on the sail. With this set up, you release the main
halyard and
get out of the way very quickly so you’re not hit by the sail
coming down.Al
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Lola
Jackson
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 8:06 PM
To: freedom group
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Down HaulHello,
My sailor friend, would like to make a Down Haul on my mail
sail…for ease
for me due to my size.Have any of you done that? Can you give a few details please?
Thank you.
Lola F30
\
Posted by Al Lorman (ajl@…>)
Lola:
I
don’t see how a main downhaul would damage the mast. But, the more I
think about it, the more I think it will make your life harder, not easier. If
you point right into the wind when you drop your main, it should fall. If it
isn’t, then you probably have a dirty mast track, a bent mast track, or
worn sail slugs. If you attach a downhaul to the main, pulling down on it at
any angle other than perfectly straight down will make it harder for the main
to fall, not easier. I think you’d be better off trying to figure out
why the main is not coming down easily.
Al
From:
FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Lola Jackson
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 4:43 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Down Haul
\
Al,
Not knowing anything about this…may I ask…to do it on the
main…would it damage the mast at all?
I also found out my boat is number 49
I washed the sails in the slip…she sure is pretty.
Lola
— On Sun, 9/21/08, Al Lorman <ajl@…>
wrote:
From: Al Lorman
<ajl@…>
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Down Haul
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 8:39 PM
Lola:
I made one for my jib, but I think a downhaul for the main
is not likely to be terribly effective (though I may be wrong). A
downhaul is simply a line attached to the top of a sail and run through a
block at the base of the mast so you can pull on something to help gravity
lower the sail. I solved the mainsail lowering issue by installing a
Strong Track and associated hardware on the sail. With this set up, you
release the main halyard and get out of the way very quickly so you¢re not
hit by the sail coming down.
Al
From:
FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne rsGroup@yahoogro
ups.com] On Behalf Of Lola Jackson
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 8:06 PM
To: freedom group
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Down Haul
\
Hello,
My sailor friend, would like to make a Down Haul on my mail sail…for ease
for me due to my size.
Have any of you done that? Can you give a few details please?
Thank you.
Lola F30
\
\
\
Posted by Al Lorman (ajl@…>)
Thanks,
Bob. I didn’t design them for regular removal and replacement, but
in fact they are held in place by three nuts and bolts so they’d be no
big deal to remove for a longer trip. Of course, boats being boats, I’d
make sure I had spare nuts, bolts and brackets for when I wanted to reinstall
them.
Al
From:
FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Bob Weeks
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 6:56 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Down Haul
\
Al
Nice
article in the Good Old Boat mag! Are the seat easy to put on and take
off……when cruising on longer trip the area is also used as a back
rest. But I like the idea of being higher up.
Bob
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Al Lorman
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 8:39 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Down Haul
Lola:
I made one for my jib, but I think a downhaul for the
main is not likely to be terribly effective (though I may be wrong). A
downhaul is simply a line attached to the top of a sail and run through a block
at the base of the mast so you can pull on something to help gravity lower the
sail. I solved the mainsail lowering issue by installing a Strong Track
and associated hardware on the sail. With this set up, you release the
main halyard and get out of the way very quickly so you’re not hit by the
sail coming down.
Al
From:
FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Lola Jackson
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 8:06 PM
To: freedom group
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Down Haul
\
Hello,
My sailor friend, would like to make a Down Haul on my mail sail…for ease for
me due to my size.
Have any of you done that? Can you give a few details please?
Thank you.
Lola F30
\
\
Posted by Bob (rweeks6508@…>)
AlHow did you rig the jib downhaul? That is the only thing left on my boat that at times require going forward, usually when its blowing a sh-- storm.BobOn Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 8:47 AM, Al Lorman wrote:Lola: I don’t see how a main downhaul would damage the mast. But, the more I think about it, the more I think it will make your life harder, not easier. If you point right into the wind when you drop your main, it should fall. If it isn’t, then you probably have a dirty mast track, a bent mast track, or worn sail slugs. If you attach a downhaul to the main, pulling down on it at any angle other than perfectly straight down will make it harder for the main to fall, not easier. I think you’d be better off trying to figure out why the main is not coming down easily. Al From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Lola Jackson Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 4:43 AM To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Down Haul Al, Not knowing anything about this…may I ask…to do it on the main…would it damage the mast at all? I also found out my boat is number 49 I washed the sails in the slip…she sure is pretty. Lola — On Sun, 9/21/08, Al Lorman <ajl@lormanlawdc. com> wrote: From: Al Lorman <ajl@lormanlawdc. com> Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Down Haul To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com Date: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 8:39 PM Lola: I made one for my jib, but I think a downhaul for the main is not likely to be terribly effective (though I may be wrong). A downhaul is simply a line attached to the top of a sail and run through a block at the base of the mast so you can pull on something to help gravity lower the sail. I solved the mainsail lowering issue by installing a Strong Track and associated hardware on the sail. With this set up, you release the main halyard and get out of the way very quickly so you’re not hit by the sail coming down. Al From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Lola Jackson Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 8:06 PM To: freedom group Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Down Haul Hello, My sailor friend, would like to make a Down Haul on my mail sail…for ease for me due to my size. Have any of you done that? Can you give a few details please? Thank you. Lola F30
Posted by Al Lorman (ajl@…>)
Bob:
I
found a few photos of the downhaul and posted them in an album called,
curiously enough, F30 jib downhaul. Hope they help.
Al
From:
FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 10:38 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Cc: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Down Haul
\
Al
How did you rig the jib downhaul? That is the only thing
left on my boat that at times require going forward, usually when its blowing a
sh-- storm.
Bob
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 8:47 AM, Al Lorman wrote:
Lola:
I
don’t see how a main downhaul would damage the mast. But, the more I
think about it, the more I think it will make your life harder, not
easier. If you point right into the wind when you drop your main, it
should fall. If it isn’t, then you probably have a dirty mast track, a
bent mast track, or worn sail slugs. If you attach a downhaul to the
main, pulling down on it at any angle other than perfectly straight down will
make it harder for the main to fall, not easier. I think you’d be better
off trying to figure out why the main is not coming down easily.
Al
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne
rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Lola Jackson
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 4:43 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Down Haul
Al,
Not
knowing anything about this…may I ask…to do it on the
main…would it damage the mast at all?
I
also found out my boat is number 49
I
washed the sails in the slip…she sure is pretty.
Lola
On Sun, 9/21/08, Al Lorman <ajl@lormanlawdc. com> wrote:
From:
Al Lorman <ajl@lormanlawdc. com>
Subject:
RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Down Haul
To:
FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date:
Sunday, September 21, 2008, 8:39 PM
Lola:
I
made one for my jib, but I think a downhaul for the main is not
likely to be terribly effective (though I may be wrong). A
downhaul is simply a line attached to the top of a sail and run through a
block at the base of the mast so you can pull on something to help
gravity lower the sail. I solved the mainsail lowering issue
by installing a Strong Track and associated hardware on the
sail. With this set up, you release the main halyard and get
out of the way very quickly so you’re not hit by the sail coming
down.
Al
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne
rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Lola Jackson
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 8:06 PM
To: freedom group
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Down Haul
Hello,
My
sailor friend, would like to make a Down Haul on my mail sail…for
ease for me due to my size.
Have
any of you done that? Can you give a few details please?
Thank
you.
Lola
F30
\
Posted by Al Lorman (ajl@…>)
Bob:
I
tied a bowline to the top of the jib (using ¼ or 5/16 line, I don’t remember
which). The line ran down the head stay to a small block on the stem fitting
and then back to the cockpit using one turning block and a few Spinlock
fittings used for a roller furling line, all tied off at a cleat attached to
the stern rail.
Al
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 10:38 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Cc: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Down Haul
\
Al
How did you rig the jib downhaul? That is the only thing
left on my boat that at times require going forward, usually when its blowing a
sh-- storm.
Bob
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 8:47 AM, Al Lorman wrote:
Lola:
I
don’t see how a main downhaul would damage the mast. But, the more I
think about it, the more I think it will make your life harder, not
easier. If you point right into the wind when you drop your main, it
should fall. If it isn’t, then you probably have a dirty mast track, a
bent mast track, or worn sail slugs. If you attach a downhaul to the
main, pulling down on it at any angle other than perfectly straight down will
make it harder for the main to fall, not easier. I think you’d be better
off trying to figure out why the main is not coming down easily.
Al
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne
rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Lola Jackson
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 4:43 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Down Haul
Al,
Not
knowing anything about this…may I ask…to do it on the
main…would it damage the mast at all?
I
also found out my boat is number 49
I
washed the sails in the slip…she sure is pretty.
Lola
On Sun, 9/21/08, Al Lorman <ajl@lormanlawdc. com> wrote:
From:
Al Lorman <ajl@lormanlawdc. com>
Subject:
RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Down Haul
To:
FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date:
Sunday, September 21, 2008, 8:39 PM
Lola:
I
made one for my jib, but I think a downhaul for the main is not
likely to be terribly effective (though I may be wrong). A
downhaul is simply a line attached to the top of a sail and run through a
block at the base of the mast so you can pull on something to help
gravity lower the sail. I solved the mainsail lowering issue
by installing a Strong Track and associated hardware on the
sail. With this set up, you release the main halyard and get
out of the way very quickly so you’re not hit by the sail coming
down.
Al
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne
rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Lola Jackson
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 8:06 PM
To: freedom group
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Down Haul
Hello,
My
sailor friend, would like to make a Down Haul on my mail sail…for
ease for me due to my size.
Have
any of you done that? Can you give a few details please?
Thank
you.
Lola
F30
\
Posted by Lola Jackson (lolaltd@…>)
OK Al,Your photos are for the Jib?Could same be installed for the main?What kind of lubricant can be used on the hooks that take the main up? I used graphite…was that a mistake?..before we put it up for washing…letting it dry, then hard to get down.So you believe a down haul on the main would not work??Please advise.Lola— On Mon, 9/22/08, Al Lorman <ajl@…> wrote:From: Al Lorman <ajl@…>Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Down HaulTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comDate: Monday, September 22, 2008, 12:33 PM
Bob: I
found a few photos of the downhaul and posted them in an album called,
curiously enough, F30 jib downhaul. Hope they help. Al
From:
FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On
Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 10:38 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Cc: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Down Haul
Al How did you rig the jib downhaul? That is the only thing
left on my boat that at times require going forward, usually when its blowing a
sh-- storm. Bob
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 8:47 AM, Al Lorman wrote:
Lola:
I
don¢t see how a main downhaul would damage the mast. But, the more I
think about it, the more I think it will make your life harder, not
easier. If you point right into the wind when you drop your main, it
should fall. If it isn¢t, then you probably have a dirty mast track, a
bent mast track, or worn sail slugs. If you attach a downhaul to the
main, pulling down on it at any angle other than perfectly straight down will
make it harder for the main to fall, not easier. I think you¢d be better
off trying to figure out why the main is not coming down easily.
Al
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne
rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Lola Jackson Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 4:43 AM To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Down Haul
Al,
Not
knowing anything about this…may I ask…to do it on the
main…would it damage the mast at all? I
also found out my boat is number 49 I
washed the sails in the slip…she sure is pretty. Lola
On Sun, 9/21/08, Al Lorman <ajl@lormanlawdc. com> wrote: From:
Al Lorman <ajl@lormanlawdc. com> Subject:
RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Down Haul To:
FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com Date:
Sunday, September 21, 2008, 8:39 PM Lola:
I
made one for my jib, but I think a downhaul for the main is not
likely to be terribly effective (though I may be wrong). A
downhaul is simply a line attached to the top of a sail and run through a
block at the base of the mast so you can pull on something to help
gravity lower the sail. I solved the mainsail lowering issue
by installing a Strong Track and associated hardware on the
sail. With this set up, you release the main halyard and get
out of the way very quickly so you¢re not hit by the sail coming
down.
Al
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne
rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Lola Jackson Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 8:06 PM To: freedom group Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Down Haul
Hello,
My
sailor friend, would like to make a Down Haul on my mail sail…for
ease for me due to my size. Have
any of you done that? Can you give a few details please? Thank
you. Lola
F30
\
Posted by Al Lorman (ajl@…>)
Yes,
the photos are just for the jib. As I said before, I think it is unlikely to
work well on the main. The preferred lubricant seems to be McLube Sailkote.
From:
FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Lola Jackson
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 4:40 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Down Haul
\
OK Al,
Your photos are for the Jib?
Could same be installed for the main?
What kind of lubricant can be used on the hooks that take the main up?
I used graphite…was that a mistake?..before we put it up for
washing…letting it dry, then hard to get down.
So you believe a down haul on the main would not work??
Please advise.
Lola
— On Mon, 9/22/08, Al Lorman <ajl@…>
wrote:
From: Al Lorman
<ajl@…>
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Down Haul
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 12:33 PM
Bob:
I found a few photos of the downhaul and posted them in
an album called, curiously enough, F30 jib downhaul. Hope they help.
Al
From:
FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne rsGroup@yahoogro
ups.com] On Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 10:38 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Cc: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Down Haul
\
Al
How did you rig the jib downhaul? That
is the only thing left on my boat that at times require going forward,
usually when its blowing a sh-- storm.
Bob
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 8:47 AM,
Al Lorman wrote:
Lola:
I don¢t see how a main downhaul would damage the
mast. But, the more I think about it, the more I think it will make
your life harder, not easier. If you point right into the wind when you
drop your main, it should fall. If it isn¢t, then you probably have a
dirty mast track, a bent mast track, or worn sail slugs. If you attach
a downhaul to the main, pulling down on it at any angle other than perfectly
straight down will make it harder for the main to fall, not easier. I
think you¢d be better off trying to figure out why the main is not coming
down easily.
Al
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@
yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf
Of Lola Jackson
Sent: Monday,
September 22, 2008 4:43 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@
yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE:
[FreedomOwnersGroup ] Down Haul
Al,
Not knowing anything about this…may I ask…to do
it on the main…would it damage the mast at all?
I also found out my boat is number 49
I washed the sails in the slip…she sure is pretty.
Lola
— On Sun, 9/21/08, Al Lorman <ajl@lormanlawdc.
com> wrote:
From: Al Lorman <ajl@lormanlawdc. com>
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Down Haul
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 8:39 PM
Lola:
I made one for my jib, but I think a downhaul for the
main is not likely to be terribly effective (though I may be
wrong). A downhaul is simply a line attached to the top of
a sail and run through a block at the base of the mast so you can
pull on something to help gravity lower the sail. I solved
the mainsail lowering issue by installing a Strong Track and
associated hardware on the sail. With this set up, you
release the main halyard and get out of the way very quickly so you¢re
not hit by the sail coming down.
Al
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@
yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On
Behalf Of Lola Jackson
Sent: Sunday,
September 21, 2008 8:06 PM
To: freedom group
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup
] Down Haul
Hello,
My sailor friend, would like to make a Down Haul on my
mail sail…for ease for me due to my size.
Have any of you done that? Can you give a few
details please?
Thank you.
Lola F30
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Posted by Lola Jackson (lolaltd@…>)
Al, you did not go into the deck did you?— On Mon, 9/22/08, Al Lorman <ajl@…> wrote:From: Al Lorman <ajl@…>Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Down HaulTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comDate: Monday, September 22, 2008, 6:16 PM
Yes,
the photos are just for the jib. As I said before, I think it is unlikely to
work well on the main. The preferred lubricant seems to be McLube Sailkote.
From:
FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On
Behalf Of Lola Jackson
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 4:40 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Down Haul
OK Al,
Your photos are for the Jib?
Could same be installed for the main?
What kind of lubricant can be used on the hooks that take the main up?
I used graphite…was that a mistake?..before we put it up for
washing…letting it dry, then hard to get down.
So you believe a down haul on the main would not work??
Please advise.
Lola
— On Mon, 9/22/08, Al Lorman <ajl@lormanlawdc. com>
wrote: From: Al Lorman
<ajl@lormanlawdc. com>
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Down Haul
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 12:33 PM
Bob: I found a few photos of the downhaul and posted them in
an album called, curiously enough, F30 jib downhaul. Hope they help. Al
From:
FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne rsGroup@yahoogro
ups.com] On Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 10:38 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Cc: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Down Haul
Al How did you rig the jib downhaul? That
is the only thing left on my boat that at times require going forward,
usually when its blowing a sh-- storm. Bob On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 8:47 AM,
Al Lorman wrote: Lola: I don¢t see how a main downhaul would damage the
mast. But, the more I think about it, the more I think it will make
your life harder, not easier. If you point right into the wind when you
drop your main, it should fall. If it isn¢t, then you probably have a
dirty mast track, a bent mast track, or worn sail slugs. If you attach
a downhaul to the main, pulling down on it at any angle other than perfectly
straight down will make it harder for the main to fall, not easier. I
think you¢d be better off trying to figure out why the main is not coming
down easily. Al From: FreedomOwnersGroup@
yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf
Of Lola Jackson Sent: Monday,
September 22, 2008 4:43 AM To: FreedomOwnersGroup@
yahoogroups. com Subject: RE:
[FreedomOwnersGroup ] Down Haul Al, Not knowing anything about this…may I ask…to do
it on the main…would it damage the mast at all? I also found out my boat is number 49 I washed the sails in the slip…she sure is pretty. Lola — On Sun, 9/21/08, Al Lorman <ajl@lormanlawdc.
com> wrote: From: Al Lorman <ajl@lormanlawdc. com> Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Down Haul To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com Date: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 8:39 PM Lola: I made one for my jib, but I think a downhaul for the
main is not likely to be terribly effective (though I may be
wrong). A downhaul is simply a line attached to the top of
a sail and run through a block at the base of the mast so you can
pull on something to help gravity lower the sail. I solved
the mainsail lowering issue by installing a Strong Track and
associated hardware on the sail. With this set up, you
release the main halyard and get out of the way very quickly so you¢re
not hit by the sail coming down. Al From: FreedomOwnersGroup@
yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On
Behalf Of Lola Jackson Sent: Sunday,
September 21, 2008 8:06 PM To: freedom group Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup
] Down Haul Hello, My sailor friend, would like to make a Down Haul on my
mail sail…for ease for me due to my size. Have any of you done that? Can you give a few
details please? Thank you. Lola F30
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Posted by Al Lorman (ajl@…>)
To
do what?
From:
FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Lola Jackson
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 8:04 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Down Haul
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Al, you did not go into the deck did you?
— On Mon, 9/22/08, Al Lorman <ajl@…>
wrote:
From: Al Lorman
<ajl@…>
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Down Haul
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 6:16 PM
Yes, the photos are just for the jib. As I said
before, I think it is unlikely to work well on the main. The preferred
lubricant seems to be McLube Sailkote.
From:
FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne rsGroup@yahoogro
ups.com] On Behalf Of Lola Jackson
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 4:40 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Down Haul
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OK Al,
Your photos are for the Jib?
Could same be installed for the main?
What kind of lubricant can be used on the hooks that take the main
up? I used graphite…was that a mistake?..before we put it up for
washing…letting it dry, then hard to get down.
So you believe a down haul on the main would not work??
Please advise.
Lola
— On Mon, 9/22/08, Al Lorman <ajl@lormanlawdc. com>
wrote:
From: Al Lorman <ajl@lormanlawdc. com>
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Down Haul
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 12:33 PM
Bob:
I found a few photos of the downhaul and
posted them in an album called, curiously enough, F30 jib downhaul.
Hope they help.
Al
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:FreedomOwne rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 10:38 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Cc: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Down Haul
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Al
How did you rig the jib
downhaul? That is the only thing left on my boat that at times
require going forward, usually when its blowing a sh-- storm.
Bob
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008
at 8:47 AM, Al Lorman wrote:
Lola:
I don¢t see how a main downhaul would
damage the mast. But, the more I think about it, the more I think it
will make your life harder, not easier. If you point right into the
wind when you drop your main, it should fall. If it isn¢t, then you
probably have a dirty mast track, a bent mast track, or worn sail
slugs. If you attach a downhaul to the main, pulling down on it at
any angle other than perfectly straight down will make it harder for the
main to fall, not easier. I think you¢d be better off trying to
figure out why the main is not coming down easily.
Al
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne
rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Lola Jackson
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 4:43 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@
yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Down Haul
Al,
Not knowing anything about this…may
I ask…to do it on the main…would it damage the mast at all?
I also found out my boat is number 49
I washed the sails in the slip…she sure
is pretty.
Lola
— On Sun, 9/21/08, Al Lorman <ajl@lormanlawdc.
com> wrote:
From: Al Lorman
<ajl@lormanlawdc. com>
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Down
Haul
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 8:39 PM
Lola:
I made one for my jib, but I think a
downhaul for the main is not likely to be terribly effective
(though I may be wrong). A downhaul is simply a line
attached to the top of a sail and run through a block at the
base of the mast so you can pull on something to help gravity
lower the sail. I solved the mainsail lowering issue by installing
a Strong Track and associated hardware on the sail. With
this set up, you release the main halyard and get out of the
way very quickly so you¢re not hit by the sail coming down.
Al
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne
rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Lola Jackson
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 8:06 PM
To: freedom
group
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Down Haul
Hello,
My sailor friend, would like to make a Down
Haul on my mail sail…for ease for me due to my
size.
Have any of you done that? Can you
give a few details please?
Thank you.
Lola F30
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Posted by Lola Jackson (lolaltd@…>)
to do the down haul on the jib…it looked like in the deck?— On Mon, 9/22/08, Al Lorman <ajl@…> wrote:From: Al Lorman <ajl@…>Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Down HaulTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comDate: Monday, September 22, 2008, 8:12 PM
To
do what?
From:
FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On
Behalf Of Lola Jackson
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 8:04 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Down Haul
Al, you did not go into the deck did you?
— On Mon, 9/22/08, Al Lorman <ajl@lormanlawdc. com>
wrote: From: Al Lorman
<ajl@lormanlawdc. com>
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Down Haul
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 6:16 PM
Yes, the photos are just for the jib. As I said
before, I think it is unlikely to work well on the main. The preferred
lubricant seems to be McLube Sailkote.
From:
FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne rsGroup@yahoogro
ups.com] On Behalf Of Lola Jackson
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 4:40 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Down Haul
OK Al,
Your photos are for the Jib?
Could same be installed for the main?
What kind of lubricant can be used on the hooks that take the main
up? I used graphite…was that a mistake?..before we put it up for
washing…letting it dry, then hard to get down.
So you believe a down haul on the main would not work??
Please advise.
Lola
— On Mon, 9/22/08, Al Lorman <ajl@lormanlawdc. com>
wrote: From: Al Lorman <ajl@lormanlawdc. com>
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Down Haul
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 12:33 PM
Bob: I found a few photos of the downhaul and
posted them in an album called, curiously enough, F30 jib downhaul.
Hope they help. Al
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:FreedomOwne rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 10:38 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Cc: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Down Haul
Al How did you rig the jib
downhaul? That is the only thing left on my boat that at times
require going forward, usually when its blowing a sh-- storm. Bob On Mon, Sep 22, 2008
at 8:47 AM, Al Lorman wrote: Lola: I don¢t see how a main downhaul would
damage the mast. But, the more I think about it, the more I think it
will make your life harder, not easier. If you point right into the
wind when you drop your main, it should fall. If it isn¢t, then you
probably have a dirty mast track, a bent mast track, or worn sail
slugs. If you attach a downhaul to the main, pulling down on it at
any angle other than perfectly straight down will make it harder for the
main to fall, not easier. I think you¢d be better off trying to
figure out why the main is not coming down easily. Al From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne
rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Lola Jackson Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 4:43 AM To: FreedomOwnersGroup@
yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Down Haul Al, Not knowing anything about this…may
I ask…to do it on the main…would it damage the mast at all?
I also found out my boat is number 49 I washed the sails in the slip…she sure
is pretty. Lola — On Sun, 9/21/08, Al Lorman <ajl@lormanlawdc.
com> wrote: From: Al Lorman
<ajl@lormanlawdc. com> Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Down
Haul To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com Date: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 8:39 PM Lola: I made one for my jib, but I think a
downhaul for the main is not likely to be terribly effective
(though I may be wrong). A downhaul is simply a line
attached to the top of a sail and run through a block at the
base of the mast so you can pull on something to help gravity
lower the sail. I solved the mainsail lowering issue by installing
a Strong Track and associated hardware on the sail. With
this set up, you release the main halyard and get out of the
way very quickly so you¢re not hit by the sail coming down. Al From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne
rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Lola Jackson Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 8:06 PM To: freedom
group Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Down Haul Hello, My sailor friend, would like to make a Down
Haul on my mail sail…for ease for me due to my
size. Have any of you done that? Can you
give a few details please? Thank you. Lola F30
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Posted by Lola Jackson (lolaltd@…>)
Ok I see you used existing parts…thanks— On Mon, 9/22/08, Lola Jackson <lolaltd@…> wrote:From: Lola Jackson <lolaltd@…>Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Down HaulTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comDate: Monday, September 22, 2008, 8:21 PM
to do the down haul on the jib…it looked like in the deck?— On Mon, 9/22/08, Al Lorman <ajl@lormanlawdc. com> wrote:From: Al Lorman <ajl@lormanlawdc. com>Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Down HaulTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. comDate: Monday, September 22, 2008, 8:12 PM
To
do what?
From:
FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On
Behalf Of Lola Jackson
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 8:04 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Down Haul
Al, you did not go into the deck did you?
— On Mon, 9/22/08, Al Lorman <ajl@lormanlawdc. com>
wrote: From: Al Lorman
<ajl@lormanlawdc. com>
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Down Haul
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 6:16 PM
Yes, the photos are just for the jib. As I said
before, I think it is unlikely to work well on the main. The preferred
lubricant seems to be McLube Sailkote.
From:
FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne rsGroup@yahoogro
ups.com] On Behalf Of Lola Jackson
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 4:40 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Down Haul
OK Al,
Your photos are for the Jib?
Could same be installed for the main?
What kind of lubricant can be used on the hooks that take the main
up? I used graphite…was that a mistake?..before we put it up for
washing…letting it dry, then hard to get down.
So you believe a down haul on the main would not work??
Please advise.
Lola
— On Mon, 9/22/08, Al Lorman <ajl@lormanlawdc. com>
wrote: From: Al Lorman <ajl@lormanlawdc. com>
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Down Haul
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 12:33 PM
Bob: I found a few photos of the downhaul and
posted them in an album called, curiously enough, F30 jib downhaul.
Hope they help. Al
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:FreedomOwne rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 10:38 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Cc: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Down Haul
Al How did you rig the jib
downhaul? That is the only thing left on my boat that at times
require going forward, usually when its blowing a sh-- storm. Bob On Mon, Sep 22, 2008
at 8:47 AM, Al Lorman wrote: Lola: I don¢t see how a main downhaul would
damage the mast. But, the more I think about it, the more I think it
will make your life harder, not easier. If you point right into the
wind when you drop your main, it should fall. If it isn¢t, then you
probably have a dirty mast track, a bent mast track, or worn sail
slugs. If you attach a downhaul to the main, pulling down on it at
any angle other than perfectly straight down will make it harder for the
main to fall, not easier. I think you¢d be better off trying to
figure out why the main is not coming down easily. Al From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne
rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Lola Jackson Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 4:43 AM To: FreedomOwnersGroup@
yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Down Haul Al, Not knowing anything about this…may
I ask…to do it on the main…would it damage the mast at all?
I also found out my boat is number 49 I washed the sails in the slip…she sure
is pretty. Lola — On Sun, 9/21/08, Al Lorman <ajl@lormanlawdc.
com> wrote: From: Al Lorman
<ajl@lormanlawdc. com> Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Down
Haul To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com Date: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 8:39 PM Lola: I made one for my jib, but I think a
downhaul for the main is not likely to be terribly effective
(though I may be wrong). A downhaul is simply a line
attached to the top of a sail and run through a block at the
base of the mast so you can pull on something to help gravity
lower the sail. I solved the mainsail lowering issue by installing
a Strong Track and associated hardware on the sail. With
this set up, you release the main halyard and get out of the
way very quickly so you¢re not hit by the sail coming down. Al From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne
rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Lola Jackson Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 8:06 PM To: freedom
group Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Down Haul Hello, My sailor friend, would like to make a Down
Haul on my mail sail…for ease for me due to my
size. Have any of you done that? Can you
give a few details please? Thank you. Lola F30
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