F30 #12 NARISA Update

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Posted by fargo_r (fargo_r@…>)

Hi to all Freedom owners, most especially F30 owners.

We are the new and very proud owners of F30 #12, NARISA,
ex SPIRIT, owned for 18 years by Marty Levin of
Milford, Connecticut.

I have scanned and searched through all of the very useful
email files of this Freedom Group but need some specific help
on our preparations for a trip to the Bahamas this Fall.

  1. PROPELLER: The current prop is a 14 x 14 fixed blade "sailing
    prop (on the original Yanmar 2GMF20 with 2.62:1 gearbox). I want the
    best of both worlds, sailing and motoring. Currently looking at a KIWI
    prop from New Zealand, which is a 3 blade feather unit, and a Flex-
    O-Fold 2 bladed folding prop. Any suggestions from F28,30,or 36
    owners?

2.OSMOTIC BLISTERS: To epoxy seal or not to seal, that is the
question. When surveyed, this boat showed no sign of blisters. I have
heard that TPI moved to vinylester resin sometime in 1986. Any idea
what boat number? We will soda blast 19 years of bottom paint tomorrow
and I have a chance to seal the bottom. Any advice from owners?

  1. WATERLINE: Lightly loaded (no dink on davits, half water and
    fuel)this boat sits almost exactly on the stern waterline with bow up
    about 3 inches. Is this normal trim? Thinking of raising the waterline
    AND loading a bit more forward. Any advice?

Any other thoughts or ideas for a detailed preparation for this trip
will be put to good use.

Thank you for my daily Freedom mails.

Narisa and Fargo Rousseau
Blue Hill, Maine
Chiang Rai, Thailand

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Posted by Jeff Chale (jwchale@…>)
Prop - my preference would be the three blade. They will typically drive the boat better into a chop.

Blistering - TPI went to vinylester resins in '85 (I bought the first Mull 36 delivered to a customer in ‘85). Your 86’ 30 should be fine.

Waterline - I now own a '87 F30 and had to raise the waterline to carry the loads for longer cruising. Evenly balanced, I think I brought it up about 2.5 inches. I doubt is this is unusual.

Good cruising!

Jeff Chale
Vashon, WA

fargo_r <fargo_r@…> wrote:
Hi to all Freedom owners, most especially F30 owners.We are the new and very proud owners of F30 #12, NARISA,ex SPIRIT, owned for 18 years by Marty Levin ofMilford, Connecticut.I have scanned and searched through all of the very usefulemail files of this Freedom Group but need some specific helpon our preparations for a trip to the Bahamas this Fall.1. PROPELLER: The current prop is a 14 x 14 fixed blade "sailingprop (on the original Yanmar 2GMF20 with 2.62:1 gearbox). I want thebest of both worlds, sailing and motoring. Currently looking at a KIWIprop from New Zealand, which is a 3 blade feather unit, and a Flex-O-Fold 2 bladed folding prop. Any suggestions from F28,30,or 36owners?2.OSMOTIC BLISTERS: To epoxy seal or not to seal, that is thequestion. When surveyed, this boat showed no sign of
blisters. I haveheard that TPI moved to vinylester resin sometime in 1986. Any ideawhat boat number? We will soda blast 19 years of bottom paint tomorrowand I have a chance to seal the bottom. Any advice from owners?3. WATERLINE: Lightly loaded (no dink on davits, half water andfuel)this boat sits almost exactly on the stern waterline with bow upabout 3 inches. Is this normal trim? Thinking of raising the waterlineAND loading a bit more forward. Any advice?Any other thoughts or ideas for a detailed preparation for this tripwill be put to good use.Thank you for my daily Freedom mails.Narisa and Fargo RousseauBlue Hill, MaineChiang Rai, Thailand
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Posted by Alan Kusinitz (akusinitz@…>)

I have a 33 and put a Varifold 3 bladed feathering prop and am extremely happy with it.
Alan F-33 Hull 51 1982

----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Chale
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 1:00 AM
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] F30 #12 NARISA Update

Prop - my preference would be the three blade. They will typically drive the boat better into a chop.

Blistering - TPI went to vinylester resins in '85 (I bought the first Mull 36 delivered to a customer in ‘85). Your 86’ 30 should be fine.

Waterline - I now own a '87 F30 and had to raise the waterline to carry the loads for longer cruising. Evenly balanced, I think I brought it up about 2.5 inches. I doubt is this is unusual.

Good cruising!

Jeff Chale
Vashon, WA

fargo_r <fargo_r@…> wrote:
Hi to all Freedom owners, most especially F30 owners.We are the new and very proud owners of F30 #12, NARISA,ex SPIRIT, owned for 18 years by Marty Levin ofMilford, Connecticut.I have scanned and searched through all of the very usefulemail files of this Freedom Group but need some specific helpon our preparations for a trip to the Bahamas this Fall.1. PROPELLER: The current prop is a 14 x 14 fixed blade "sailingprop (on the original Yanmar 2GMF20 with 2.62:1 gearbox). I want thebest of both worlds, sailing and motoring. Currently looking at a KIWIprop from New Zealand, which is a 3 blade feather unit, and a Flex-O-Fold 2 bladed folding prop. Any suggestions from F28,30,or 36owners?2.OSMOTIC BLISTERS: To epoxy seal or not to seal, that is thequestion. When surveyed, this boat showed no sign of blisters. I haveheard that TPI moved to vinylester resin sometime in 1986. Any ideawhat boat number? We will soda blast 19 years of bottom paint tomorrowand I have a chance to seal the bottom. Any advice from owners?3. WATERLINE: Lightly loaded (no dink on davits, half water andfuel)this boat sits almost exactly on the stern waterline with bow upabout 3 inches. Is this normal trim? Thinking of raising the waterlineAND loading a bit more forward. Any advice?Any other thoughts or ideas for a detailed preparation for this tripwill be put to good use.Thank you for my daily Freedom mails.Narisa and Fargo RousseauBlue Hill, MaineChiang Rai, Thailand


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Posted by Bob Frew (rfrew@…>)

Dear Group,

I have a hoyt 32 called free spirit in Mystic Ct. I
want to put a autoprop on the boat but have been told
that the propshaft would not take it. Have any of you
put a fethering prop on this boat.

thanks,
Bob Frew, free Spirit


— Jeff Chale <jwchale@…> wrote:

Prop - my preference would be the three blade. They
will typically drive the boat better into a chop.

Blistering - TPI went to vinylester resins in '85 (I
bought the first Mull 36 delivered to a customer in
‘85). Your 86’ 30 should be fine.

Waterline - I now own a '87 F30 and had to raise the
waterline to carry the loads for longer cruising.
Evenly balanced, I think I brought it up about 2.5
inches. I doubt is this is unusual.

Good cruising!

Jeff Chale
Vashon, WA

fargo_r <fargo_r@…> wrote:
Hi to all Freedom owners, most especially F30
owners.

We are the new and very proud owners of F30 #12,
NARISA,
ex SPIRIT, owned for 18 years by Marty Levin of
Milford, Connecticut.

I have scanned and searched through all of the very
useful
email files of this Freedom Group but need some
specific help
on our preparations for a trip to the Bahamas this
Fall.

  1. PROPELLER: The current prop is a 14 x 14 fixed
    blade "sailing
    prop (on the original Yanmar 2GMF20 with 2.62:1
    gearbox). I want the
    best of both worlds, sailing and motoring. Currently
    looking at a KIWI
    prop from New Zealand, which is a 3 blade feather
    unit, and a Flex-
    O-Fold 2 bladed folding prop. Any suggestions from
    F28,30,or 36
    owners?

2.OSMOTIC BLISTERS: To epoxy seal or not to seal,
that is the
question. When surveyed, this boat showed no sign
of blisters. I have
heard that TPI moved to vinylester resin sometime in
1986. Any idea
what boat number? We will soda blast 19 years of
bottom paint tomorrow
and I have a chance to seal the bottom. Any advice
from owners?

  1. WATERLINE: Lightly loaded (no dink on davits,
    half water and
    fuel)this boat sits almost exactly on the stern
    waterline with bow up
    about 3 inches. Is this normal trim? Thinking of
    raising the waterline
    AND loading a bit more forward. Any advice?

Any other thoughts or ideas for a detailed
preparation for this trip
will be put to good use.

Thank you for my daily Freedom mails.

Narisa and Fargo Rousseau
Blue Hill, Maine
Chiang Rai, Thailand

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Posted by Alan Kusinitz (akusinitz@…>)

On my F-33 one of the constraints was the short between the end of the prop shaft and the rudder. The variprop has the shortest hub length and fit right in. It has some other advantages as well.
Alan

----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Frew
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 8:55 AM
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] F30 #12 NARISA Update
Dear Group,I have a hoyt 32 called free spirit in Mystic Ct. Iwant to put a autoprop on the boat but have been toldthat the propshaft would not take it. Have any of youput a fethering prop on this boat.thanks,Bob Frew, free Spirit— Jeff Chale <jwchale@…> wrote:> Prop - my preference would be the three blade. They> will typically drive the boat better into a chop.> > Blistering - TPI went to vinylester resins in '85 (I> bought the first Mull 36 delivered to a customer in> ‘85). Your 86’ 30 should be fine.> > Waterline - I now own a '87 F30 and had to raise the> waterline to carry the loads for longer cruising. > Evenly balanced, I think I brought it up about 2.5> inches. I doubt is this is unusual.> > Good cruising!> > Jeff Chale> Vashon, WA> > > > fargo_r <fargo_r@…> wrote:> Hi to all Freedom owners, most especially F30> owners.> > We are the new and very proud owners of F30 #12,> NARISA,> ex SPIRIT, owned for 18 years by Marty Levin of> Milford, Connecticut.> > I have scanned and searched through all of the very> useful> email files of this Freedom Group but need some> specific help> on our preparations for a trip to the Bahamas this> Fall.> > 1. PROPELLER: The current prop is a 14 x 14 fixed> blade "sailing> prop (on the original Yanmar 2GMF20 with 2.62:1> gearbox). I want the> best of both worlds, sailing and motoring. Currently> looking at a KIWI> prop from New Zealand, which is a 3 blade feather> unit, and a Flex-> O-Fold 2 bladed folding prop. Any suggestions from> F28,30,or 36> owners?> > 2.OSMOTIC BLISTERS: To epoxy seal or not to seal,> that is the> question. When surveyed, this boat showed no sign> of blisters. I have> heard that TPI moved to vinylester resin sometime in> 1986. Any idea> what boat number? We will soda blast 19 years of> bottom paint tomorrow> and I have a chance to seal the bottom. Any advice> from owners?> > 3. WATERLINE: Lightly loaded (no dink on davits,> half water and> fuel)this boat sits almost exactly on the stern> waterline with bow up> about 3 inches. Is this normal trim? Thinking of> raising the waterline> AND loading a bit more forward. Any advice?> > Any other thoughts or ideas for a detailed> preparation for this trip> will be put to good use.> > Thank you for my daily Freedom mails.> > Narisa and Fargo Rousseau> Blue Hill, Maine> Chiang Rai, Thailand> > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group “freedomyachts2003” on the web.> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email> to:> freedomyachts2003-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the> Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > ---------------------------------> > > > > ---------------------------------> Yahoo! for Good> Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina> relief effort.

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Posted by Jerome Weinraub (zayde@…>)

What size did you get? Did you get from Variprop? How are they to deal with?

----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Kusinitz
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 8:08 AM
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [freedomyachts2003] F30 #12 NARISA Update

I have a 33 and put a Varifold 3 bladed feathering prop and am extremely happy with it.
Alan F-33 Hull 51 1982

----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Chale
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 1:00 AM
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] F30 #12 NARISA Update

Prop - my preference would be the three blade. They will typically drive the boat better into a chop.

Blistering - TPI went to vinylester resins in '85 (I bought the first Mull 36 delivered to a customer in ‘85). Your 86’ 30 should be fine.

Waterline - I now own a '87 F30 and had to raise the waterline to carry the loads for longer cruising. Evenly balanced, I think I brought it up about 2.5 inches. I doubt is this is unusual.

Good cruising!

Jeff Chale
Vashon, WA

fargo_r <fargo_r@…> wrote:
Hi to all Freedom owners, most especially F30 owners.We are the new and very proud owners of F30 #12, NARISA,ex SPIRIT, owned for 18 years by Marty Levin ofMilford, Connecticut.I have scanned and searched through all of the very usefulemail files of this Freedom Group but need some specific helpon our preparations for a trip to the Bahamas this Fall.1. PROPELLER: The current prop is a 14 x 14 fixed blade "sailingprop (on the original Yanmar 2GMF20 with 2.62:1 gearbox). I want thebest of both worlds, sailing and motoring. Currently looking at a KIWIprop from New Zealand, which is a 3 blade feather unit, and a Flex-O-Fold 2 bladed folding prop. Any suggestions from F28,30,or 36owners?2.OSMOTIC BLISTERS: To epoxy seal or not to seal, that is thequestion. When surveyed, this boat showed no sign of blisters. I haveheard that TPI moved to vinylester resin sometime in 1986. Any ideawhat boat number? We will soda blast 19 years of bottom paint tomorrowand I have a chance to seal the bottom. Any advice from owners?3. WATERLINE: Lightly loaded (no dink on davits, half water andfuel)this boat sits almost exactly on the stern waterline with bow upabout 3 inches. Is this normal trim? Thinking of raising the waterlineAND loading a bit more forward. Any advice?Any other thoughts or ideas for a detailed preparation for this tripwill be put to good use.Thank you for my daily Freedom mails.Narisa and Fargo RousseauBlue Hill, MaineChiang Rai, Thailand


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Posted by Paul McFadden (pwhitmac@…>)
I had a two blade MaxProp on my 32, no problems. Going for a three blade MaxProp soon.

Just curious, why, and how is the shaft not supposed to be able to take it?

PWM

<rfrew@…> wrote:
Dear Group,I have a hoyt 32 called free spirit in Mystic Ct. Iwant to put a autoprop on the boat but have been toldthat the propshaft would not take it. Have any of youput a fethering prop on this boat.thanks,Bob Frew, free Spirit— Jeff Chale <jwchale@…> wrote:> Prop - my preference would be the three blade. They> will typically drive the boat better into a chop.> > Blistering - TPI went to vinylester resins in '85 (I> bought the first Mull 36 delivered to a customer in> ‘85). Your 86’ 30 should be fine.> > Waterline - I now own a '87 F30 and had to raise the> waterline to carry the loads for longer cruising. > Evenly balanced, I think I brought it up about 2.5> inches. I doubt is this is unusual.>

Good cruising!> > Jeff Chale> Vashon, WA> > > > fargo_r <fargo_r@…> wrote:> Hi to all Freedom owners, most especially F30> owners.> > We are the new and very proud owners of F30 #12,> NARISA,> ex SPIRIT, owned for 18 years by Marty Levin of> Milford, Connecticut.> > I have scanned and searched through all of the very> useful> email files of this Freedom Group but need some> specific help> on our preparations for a trip to the Bahamas this> Fall.> > 1. PROPELLER: The current prop is a 14 x 14 fixed> blade "sailing> prop (on the original Yanmar 2GMF20 with 2.62:1> gearbox). I want the> best of both worlds, sailing and motoring. Currently> looking at a KIWI> prop from New Zealand, which is a 3 blade feather> unit, and a Flex->
O-Fold 2 bladed folding prop. Any suggestions from> F28,30,or 36> owners?> > 2.OSMOTIC BLISTERS: To epoxy seal or not to seal,> that is the> question. When surveyed, this boat showed no sign> of blisters. I have> heard that TPI moved to vinylester resin sometime in> 1986. Any idea> what boat number? We will soda blast 19 years of> bottom paint tomorrow> and I have a chance to seal the bottom. Any advice> from owners?> > 3. WATERLINE: Lightly loaded (no dink on davits,> half water and> fuel)this boat sits almost exactly on the stern> waterline with bow up> about 3 inches. Is this normal trim? Thinking of> raising the waterline> AND loading a bit more forward. Any advice?> > Any other thoughts or ideas for a detailed> preparation for this trip> will be put to good use.> > Thank you for
my daily Freedom mails.> > Narisa and Fargo Rousseau> Blue Hill, Maine> Chiang Rai, Thailand> > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group “freedomyachts2003” on the web.> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email> to:> freedomyachts2003-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the> Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > ---------------------------------> > > > > ---------------------------------> Yahoo! for Good> Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina> relief effort.


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Posted by svbagatelle (svbagatelle@…>)

If you make it to Treasure Cay, Abaco, Bahamas after mid-December,
look for my Freedom 30 in docked in front of our condo at the marina.
Paul
F30 #58 “Bagatelle”

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “fargo_r” <fargo_r@y…>
wrote:

Hi to all Freedom owners, most especially F30 owners.

We are the new and very proud owners of F30 #12, NARISA,
ex SPIRIT, owned for 18 years by Marty Levin of
Milford, Connecticut.

I have scanned and searched through all of the very useful
email files of this Freedom Group but need some specific help
on our preparations for a trip to the Bahamas this Fall.

  1. PROPELLER: The current prop is a 14 x 14 fixed blade "sailing
    prop (on the original Yanmar 2GMF20 with 2.62:1 gearbox). I want
    the
    best of both worlds, sailing and motoring. Currently looking at a
    KIWI
    prop from New Zealand, which is a 3 blade feather unit, and a Flex-
    O-Fold 2 bladed folding prop. Any suggestions from F28,30,or 36
    owners?

2.OSMOTIC BLISTERS: To epoxy seal or not to seal, that is the
question. When surveyed, this boat showed no sign of blisters. I
have
heard that TPI moved to vinylester resin sometime in 1986. Any idea
what boat number? We will soda blast 19 years of bottom paint
tomorrow
and I have a chance to seal the bottom. Any advice from owners?

  1. WATERLINE: Lightly loaded (no dink on davits, half water and
    fuel)this boat sits almost exactly on the stern waterline with bow
    up
    about 3 inches. Is this normal trim? Thinking of raising the
    waterline
    AND loading a bit more forward. Any advice?

Any other thoughts or ideas for a detailed preparation for this
trip
will be put to good use.

Thank you for my daily Freedom mails.

Narisa and Fargo Rousseau
Blue Hill, Maine
Chiang Rai, Thailand

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Posted by Fargo Rousseau (fargo_r@…>)

Thank you, Paul. Nang and I hope to see you there
soon.

Fargo and Narisa

— svbagatelle <svbagatelle@…> wrote:

If you make it to Treasure Cay, Abaco, Bahamas after
mid-December,
look for my Freedom 30 in docked in front of our
condo at the marina.
Paul
F30 #58 “Bagatelle”

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Posted by Fargo Rousseau (fargo_r@…>)

Dear Jeff:

Thank you very much for the quick note. Very good
news on the vinylester change. We may be back for
more help next week. Sails off today (in a strong cold
breeze). Wishing the boom was carbon…the Kenyon is a
real log.

Fargo

— Jeff Chale <jwchale@…> wrote:

Prop - my preference would be the three blade. They
will typically drive the boat better into a chop.

Blistering - TPI went to vinylester resins in '85 (I
bought the first Mull 36 delivered to a customer in
‘85). Your 86’ 30 should be fine.

Waterline - I now own a '87 F30 and had to raise the
waterline to carry the loads for longer cruising.
Evenly balanced, I think I brought it up about 2.5
inches. I doubt is this is unusual.

Good cruising!

Jeff Chale
Vashon, WA

fargo_r <fargo_r@…> wrote:
Hi to all Freedom owners, most especially F30
owners.

We are the new and very proud owners of F30 #12,
NARISA,
ex SPIRIT, owned for 18 years by Marty Levin of
Milford, Connecticut.

I have scanned and searched through all of the very
useful
email files of this Freedom Group but need some
specific help
on our preparations for a trip to the Bahamas this
Fall.

  1. PROPELLER: The current prop is a 14 x 14 fixed
    blade "sailing
    prop (on the original Yanmar 2GMF20 with 2.62:1
    gearbox). I want the
    best of both worlds, sailing and motoring. Currently
    looking at a KIWI
    prop from New Zealand, which is a 3 blade feather
    unit, and a Flex-
    O-Fold 2 bladed folding prop. Any suggestions from
    F28,30,or 36
    owners?

2.OSMOTIC BLISTERS: To epoxy seal or not to seal,
that is the
question. When surveyed, this boat showed no sign
of blisters. I have
heard that TPI moved to vinylester resin sometime in
1986. Any idea
what boat number? We will soda blast 19 years of
bottom paint tomorrow
and I have a chance to seal the bottom. Any advice
from owners?

  1. WATERLINE: Lightly loaded (no dink on davits,
    half water and
    fuel)this boat sits almost exactly on the stern
    waterline with bow up
    about 3 inches. Is this normal trim? Thinking of
    raising the waterline
    AND loading a bit more forward. Any advice?

Any other thoughts or ideas for a detailed
preparation for this trip
will be put to good use.

Thank you for my daily Freedom mails.

Narisa and Fargo Rousseau
Blue Hill, Maine
Chiang Rai, Thailand

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