Posted by Lola Jackson (lolaltd@…>)
Can some one with a F30 tell me if I have a head system vent? Fellow sailor says he was looking at my boat and wondered if I have one…do I?Thank you…Lola
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Posted by Bob Weeks (rweeks6508@…>)
If you have one the vent hole is on the
port side of the boat about 3 to 4 feet from the bow.
Bob
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Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] F30
Head and holding Vent?
Can some
one with a F30 tell me if I have a head system vent? Fellow sailor says
he was looking at my boat and wondered if I have one…do I?
Thank you…Lola
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Posted by sgaber@…> (sgaber@…>)
If the boat has a holding tank, iit has to have a vent. Otherwise you couldn’t
pump anythung into it because the air inside couldn’t be disolaced by whatever
you’r pumping into the tank. Also, gases (methane) from decomposition of the
contents of the tank would build up and explode.
Even a boat without a holding tank has a vented loop in the head outlet hose.
Steve Gaber
Sanderling, 1967 C-31 #77
Oldsmar, FL
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Can some one with a F30 tell me if I have a head system vent? Fellow sailor
says he was looking at my boat and wondered if I have one…do I?
Thank you…Lola
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Posted by Lola Jackson (lolaltd@…>)
So Bob, are you saying its on the port side of the boat and looks like a bilge outlet? Thanks, LolaBob Weeks <rweeks6508@…> wrote: If you have one the vent hole is on the port side of the boat about 3 to 4 feet from the bow. Bob From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lola
Jackson Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 9:17 PM To: freedom group Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] F30 Head and holding Vent? Can some one with a F30 tell me if I have a head system vent? Fellow sailor says he was looking at my boat and wondered if I have one…do I? Thank you…Lola Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
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Posted by Fargo Rousseau (fargo_r@…>)
Hi Lola: Just looked at pictures of my old F30 and found the holding tank vent. Can confirm that it is located on the port side, less than 3 feet aft of the point of the bow, about one or two inches down from the edge of the deck (where it meets the side of the boat). It is almost exactly above the pointy end of the cove stripe. The plastic fitting for this vent on my boat looks identical to the two overboard fittings for the bildge pump and the shower sump pump which are located further aft along the port side, closer to the top edge of the side, and just outboard of the head window.Will send you a picture if you like.FargoEx F30 #12
Posted by Lola Jackson (lolaltd@…>)
Thank you all…should it be blown clear…?Fargo Rousseau <fargo_r@…> wrote: Hi Lola: Just looked at pictures of my old F30 and found the holding tank vent. Can confirm that it is located on the port side, less than 3 feet aft of the point of the bow, about one or two inches down from the edge of the deck (where it meets the side of the boat). It is almost exactly above the pointy end of the cove stripe. The plastic fitting for this vent on my boat looks identical to the two overboard fittings for the bildge pump and
the shower sump pump which are located further aft along the port side, closer to the top edge of the side, and just outboard of the head window.Will send you a picture if you like.FargoEx F30 #12
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Posted by Fargo Rousseau (fargo_r@…>)
I am here just waiting for this noble and imaginative group’s suggestions. I, for one, will keep my lips closed (and clear) on this one. Jocking aside, the vent needs to be open and free of obstructions. Sometimes the vent or hose can become blocked or partially obstructed. When stuff is pumped into the tank, the vent needs to let air out of the tank. And when the tank is vacuumed (“pumped”), air needs to go in through this vent. I would not “blow” it clear with pressure air or water. A pipe cleaner or gentle (not sharp) small round tubular brush would clean out the vent port near the deck. Not sure how to clean out an objstruction further down the hose IF you find one. I cleaned mne when I changed plumbing to the holding tank, which is under the forward part of the bunk (the nose of the V). FargoLola Jackson
<lolaltd@…> wrote: Thank you all…should it be blown clear…?Fargo Rousseau <fargo_r@yahoo.com> wrote: Hi Lola: Just looked at pictures of my old F30 and found the holding tank vent. Can confirm that it is located on the port side, less than 3 feet aft of the point of the bow, about one or two inches down from the edge of the deck (where it meets the side of the boat). It is almost exactly
above the pointy end of the cove stripe. The plastic fitting for this vent on my boat looks identical to the two overboard fittings for the bildge pump and the shower sump pump which are located further aft along the port side, closer to the top edge of the side, and just outboard of the head window.Will send you a picture if you like.FargoEx F30 #12 Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
Posted by Bob Weeks (rweeks6508@…>)
Again not all boats (I have learned
quickly) are the same. But if all is well you should have three outlets near
the deck line on the port side. From the bow the first one is the vent for the
black water tank and then a little beyond that there are two side by side and
they are the bilge pump and shower pump outlets. I don’t remember seeing
anymore that on the port side.
Bob
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F30 Head and holding Vent?
So Bob,
are you saying its on the port side of the boat and looks like a bilge
outlet? Thanks, Lola
Bob Weeks
<rweeks6508@verizon.net> wrote:
If you have one the vent hole is on the
port side of the boat about 3 to 4 feet from the bow.
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Can some one with a F30 tell me if I have a head system vent?
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Posted by Bob Weeks (rweeks6508@…>)
Since you had yours apart did you have one
of those charcoal filters on it?
Bob
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Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup]
F30 Head and holding Vent?
I am here just waiting for this noble and imaginative group’s
suggestions. I, for one, will keep my lips closed (and clear) on this
one.
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Jocking aside, the vent needs to be open and free of
obstructions. Sometimes the vent or hose can become blocked or partially
obstructed. When stuff is pumped into the tank, the vent needs to let air
out of the tank. And when the tank is vacuumed (“pumped”), air needs
to go in through this vent. I would not “blow” it clear
with pressure air or water. A pipe cleaner or gentle (not sharp) small round
tubular brush would clean out the vent port near the deck. Not sure how
to clean out an objstruction further down the hose IF you find one. I
cleaned mne when I changed plumbing to the holding tank, which is under the
forward part of the bunk (the nose of the V).
\
Fargo
Lola Jackson
<lolaltd@yahoo.com> wrote:
Thank you all…should it be blown clear…?
Fargo Rousseau <fargo_r@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Hi Lola: Just looked at pictures of my old F30 and found the
holding tank vent. Can confirm that it is located on the port side, less
than 3 feet aft of the point of the bow, about one or two inches down from the
edge of the deck (where it meets the side of the boat). It is almost exactly
above the pointy end of the cove stripe.
The plastic fitting for this vent on my boat looks identical to the two
overboard fittings for the bildge pump and the shower sump pump which are
located further aft along the port side, closer to the top edge of the side,
and just outboard of the head window.
Will send you a picture if you like.
Fargo
Ex F30 #12
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Posted by Fargo Rousseau (fargo_r@…>)
No I didn’t but I would like to have tested one. We re-hosed most of the system, installed an electric overboard pump, and eliminated the vent loop in the head locker. So 99.9% of the smell came from this small forward vent. We were anchoring out all of our time on our boat, so the bow was into the wind and the emissions from this tiny vent could blanket the boat. Various tank additives helped but an active vent filter might have been just the trick. It would have to be installed in such a way as to be easily replaceable. They don’t last forever and are a bit pricey.Re: Eliminating the vent loop…this created a new problem and some risk. Maybe Rick can tell the group how this change is panning out and what additions he has made.Fargoex F30 #12Bob Weeks <rweeks6508@…> wrote: Since you had yours apart did you have one of those charcoal filters on it? Bob From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Fargo Rousseau Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 12:10 PM To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] F30 Head
and holding Vent? I am here just waiting for this noble and imaginative group’s suggestions. I, for one, will keep my lips closed (and clear) on this one. Jocking aside, the vent needs to be open and free of obstructions. Sometimes the vent or hose can become blocked or partially obstructed. When stuff is pumped into the tank, the vent needs to let air
out of the tank. And when the tank is vacuumed (“pumped”), air needs to go in through this vent. I would not “blow” it clear with pressure air or water. A pipe cleaner or gentle (not sharp) small round tubular brush would clean out the vent port near the deck. Not sure how to clean out an objstruction further down the hose IF you find one. I cleaned mne when I changed plumbing to the holding tank, which is under the forward part of the bunk (the nose of the V). Fargo Lola Jackson <lolaltd@yahoo.com> wrote: Thank you all…should it be blown clear…? Fargo Rousseau <fargo_r@yahoo.com> wrote: Hi Lola: Just looked at pictures of my old F30 and found the holding tank vent. Can confirm that it is located on the port side, less than 3 feet aft of the point of the bow, about one or two inches down from the edge of the deck (where it meets the side of the boat). It is almost exactly above the pointy end of the cove stripe. The plastic fitting for
this vent on my boat looks identical to the two overboard fittings for the bildge pump and the shower sump pump which are located further aft along the port side, closer to the top edge of the side, and just outboard of the head window. Will send you a picture if you like. Fargo Ex F30 #12 Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
Posted by Alan Kusinitz (akusinitz@…>)
I use a sealand charcoal filter. Pricey
but effective. It installs inline with the tank vent.
I have no vented loop. My head goes to the
holding tank. From there to the deck pumpout fitting and via a pvc Y (no
valve) to a sealand self priming pump and to a through hull. When I can pump
overboard I would open the thruhull and turn on the pump (switch located next
to the thruhull so I don’t forget to open it). Since the thruhull is
closed otherwise there is little risk of siphoning. Even if I forget the
sealand pump won’t backflow. Even it did it would only fill the holding
tank and vent line to the level of waterline.
I also just installed a Sealand tank saver
vent that allows air to flow into the tank if there is excess vacuum for any
reason and prevents the tank or fittings from a messy implosion. It also meets
the ISO 1.5” vent requirement.
Alan Hull #51 1982 SEAPR
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Fargo Rousseau
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 8:27 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup]
F30 Head and holding Vent?
No I
didn’t but I would like to have tested one. We re-hosed most of the
system, installed an electric overboard pump, and eliminated the vent loop in
the head locker. So 99.9% of the smell came from this small forward
vent. We were anchoring out all of our time on our boat, so the bow was
into the wind and the emissions from this tiny vent could blanket the boat.
Various tank additives helped but an active vent filter might have been just
the trick. It would have to be installed in such a way as to be easily
replaceable. They don’t last forever and are a bit pricey.
Re: Eliminating the vent loop…this created a new problem and some risk.
Maybe Rick can tell the group how this change is panning out and what additions
he has made.
Fargo
ex F30 #12
Bob Weeks
<rweeks6508@verizon.net> wrote:
Since you had yours apart did you have one
of those charcoal filters on it?
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Bob
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On Behalf Of Fargo Rousseau
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 12:10
PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup]
F30 Head and holding Vent?
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I am here just waiting for this noble and imaginative group’s
suggestions. I, for one, will keep my lips closed (and clear) on this
one.
\
Jocking aside, the vent needs to be open and free of
obstructions. Sometimes the vent or hose can become blocked or partially
obstructed. When stuff is pumped into the tank, the vent needs to let air
out of the tank. And when the tank is vacuumed (“pumped”), air needs
to go in through this vent. I would not “blow” it clear
with pressure air or water. A pipe cleaner or gentle (not sharp) small round
tubular brush would clean out the vent port near the deck. Not sure how
to clean out an objstruction further down the hose IF you find one. I
cleaned mne when I changed plumbing to the holding tank, which is under the forward
part of the bunk (the nose of the V).
\
Fargo
Lola Jackson
<lolaltd@yahoo.com> wrote:
Thank you all…should it be blown clear…?
Fargo Rousseau <fargo_r@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Hi Lola: Just looked at pictures of my old F30 and found the
holding tank vent. Can confirm that it is located on the port side, less
than 3 feet aft of the point of the bow, about one or two inches down from the
edge of the deck (where it meets the side of the boat). It is almost exactly
above the pointy end of the cove stripe.
The plastic fitting for this vent on my boat looks identical to the two
overboard fittings for the bildge pump and the shower sump pump which are
located further aft along the port side, closer to the top edge of the side,
and just outboard of the head window.
Will send you a picture if you like.
Fargo
Ex F30 #12
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Posted by Bob (rweeks6508@…>)
There is an article in one of the magazine, DIY or BoatWorks, I have to try and find it again but it shows how to refill one of those fillers. Of course you need a bag of charcoal filter material and the retro included a screw on cap so you could refiller easily. Reduced cost…BobOn Fri, May 9, 2008 at 8:26 AM, Fargo Rousseau wrote:No I didn’t but I would like to have tested one. We re-hosed most of the system, installed an electric overboard pump, and eliminated the vent loop in the head locker. So 99.9% of the smell came from this small forward vent. We were anchoring out all of our time on our boat, so the bow was into the wind and the emissions from this tiny vent could blanket the boat. Various tank additives helped but an active vent filter might have been just the trick. It would have to be installed in such a way as to be easily replaceable. They don’t last forever and are a bit pricey. Re: Eliminating the vent loop…this created a new problem and some risk. Maybe Rick can tell the group how this change is panning out and what additions he has made. Fargo ex F30 #12 Bob Weeks <rweeks6508@verizon. net> wrote: Since you had yours apart did you have one of those charcoal filters on it? Bob ___________________________________From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Fargo Rousseau Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 12:10 PM To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] F30 Head and holding Vent? I am here just waiting for this noble and imaginative group’s suggestions. I, for one, will keep my lips closed (and clear) on this one. Jocking aside, the vent needs to be open and free of obstructions. Sometimes the vent or hose can become blocked or partially obstructed. When stuff is pumped into the tank, the vent needs to let air out of the tank. And when the tank is vacuumed (“pumped”), air needs to go in through this vent. I would not “blow” it clear with pressure air or water. A pipe cleaner or gentle (not sharp) small round tubular brush would clean out the vent port near the deck. Not sure how to clean out an objstruction further down the hose IF you find one. I cleaned mne when I changed plumbing to the holding tank, which is under the forward part of the bunk (the nose of the V). Fargo Lola Jackson <lolaltd@yahoo. com> wrote: Thank you all…should it be blown clear…? Fargo Rousseau <fargo_r@yahoo. com> wrote: Hi Lola: Just looked at pictures of my old F30 and found the holding tank vent. Can confirm that it is located on the port side, less than 3 feet aft of the point of the bow, about one or two inches down from the edge of the deck (where it meets the side of the boat). It is almost exactly above the pointy end of the cove stripe. The plastic fitting for this vent on my boat looks identical to the two overboard fittings for the bildge pump and the shower sump pump which are located further aft along the port side, closer to the top edge of the side, and just outboard of the head window. Will send you a picture if you like. Fargo Ex F30 #12 ___________________________________Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
Posted by Lola Jackson (lolaltd@…>)
Yes Bob if you find that info let me know. Thank you…LolaBob <rweeks6508@…> wrote: There is an article in one of the magazine, DIY or BoatWorks, I have to try and find it again but it shows how to refill one of those fillers. Of course you need a bag of charcoal filter material and the retro included a screw on cap so you could refiller easily. Reduced cost…BobOn Fri, May 9, 2008 at 8:26 AM, Fargo Rousseau wrote:No I didn’t but I would like to have tested one. We re-hosed most of the system, installed an electric overboard pump, and eliminated the vent loop in the head locker. So 99.9% of the smell came from this
small forward vent. We were anchoring out all of our time on our boat, so the bow was into the wind and the emissions from this tiny vent could blanket the boat. Various tank additives helped but an active vent filter might have been just the trick. It would have to be installed in such a way as to be easily replaceable. They don’t last forever and are a bit pricey. Re: Eliminating the vent loop…this created a new problem and some risk. Maybe Rick can tell the group how this change is panning out and what additions he has made. Fargo ex F30 #12 Bob Weeks <rweeks6508@verizon. net> wrote: Since you had yours apart did you have one of those charcoal filters on it? Bob ___________________________________From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Fargo Rousseau Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 12:10 PM To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] F30 Head and
holding Vent? I am here just waiting for this noble and imaginative group’s suggestions. I, for one, will keep my lips closed (and clear) on this one. Jocking aside, the vent needs to be open and free of obstructions. Sometimes the vent or hose can become blocked or partially obstructed. When stuff is pumped into the tank, the vent needs to let air out of the tank. And when the tank is vacuumed (“pumped”), air needs to go in through this vent. I would not “blow” it clear
with pressure air or water. A pipe cleaner or gentle (not sharp) small round tubular brush would clean out the vent port near the deck. Not sure how to clean out an objstruction further down the hose IF you find one. I cleaned mne when I changed plumbing to the holding tank, which is under the forward part of the bunk (the nose of the V). Fargo Lola Jackson <lolaltd@yahoo. com> wrote: Thank you all…should it be blown clear…? Fargo Rousseau <fargo_r@yahoo. com> wrote: Hi Lola: Just looked at pictures of my old F30 and found the holding tank vent. Can confirm that it is located on the port side, less than 3 feet aft of the point of the bow, about one or two inches down from the edge of the deck (where it meets the side of the boat). It is almost exactly above the pointy end of the cove stripe. The plastic fitting for this vent on my boat looks identical to the two overboard fittings for the bildge pump and the shower sump pump which are located further aft along the port side, closer to the top edge of the side, and just outboard of the head window. Will send you a picture if you like. Fargo Ex F30 #12 ___________________________________Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
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