Posted by Lorman, Alvin J. (ajlorman@…>)
Roger:
My understanding, based on the reports of other F30 owners, is that the outside and inside handrails are bolted together. Removing the inside handrails involves destroying them, although it is not clear to me whether or not the outside rails can be salvaged in this situation.
I can tell you what I did for the headliner separation problem. All of the headliner panels, except the large on with the handrails bolted through it, can be unscrewed (after removing the trim) and taken home for work. I pulled the separating vinyl off, scraped off the remains of the foam backing and reglued the vinyl to the backing panels. Since the large center panel could not be removed without destroying the handrails, what I did was this: using a razor, I cut the vinyl from the companionway entrance to the main salon hatch. This permitted me to peel it back of both sides (it stops peeling when you get to the handrails) and clean the foam up reasonably well. I then reglued both sides back up. I made a teak batten strip to cover the razor cut line. Not a perfect job, but a big improvement.
I’m afraid I have little to offer on the leaking companionway hatch issue, as I have the same problem. I have found that a small tarp tied over it when I’m off the boat pretty much eliminates the leak.
Best of luck,
Al
-----Original Message-----From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rogerweavSent: Monday, May 28, 2007 10:01 AMTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: F30 leaks in main cabin
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Lorman, Alvin J.” <ajlorman@…> wrote:>Al, It appears I will have to remove the headliner including the middle section. You mentioned it is not possible if you have interior grab rails. Do you know if the rails are bolted or just screwed into the hand rails on deck. The three bolts/screws on the interior seem to line up with three in the hand rails on deck. Is it possible they screw into each other? Have you attempted to remove the middle section on your F30? I have examined the headliner and the vinyl outer cover is pulling away from the backer board. In a small section near the galley (middle section) the backer board is crumbing apart do to water damage. The vinyl is just sagging down away from the support board behind it. I believe my leak is coming from the companionway channel, however that remains to be seen. So far I have had some difficulty removing the screws in the sea hood. They seem to be in very tite. I am close to stripping out the heads at this point and I may have to drill them out which is a tricky with stainless steel.I apprec any comments you might have regarding the F30 and your experience.Regards,Roger Any info you can share would be very helpful. I am commited to finding the source of these leaks and keeping our boat in tip top shape. The vasoline has solved the leaks in the ports for now. This seems to be a late fall project as I am just going to sail this summer and deal with it before we pull our boat for winter storage. > Roger:> > Not uncommon, sadly.> > The leak by the companionway is probably from the companionway channel.> I don’t think the traveler is in a position to leak where you’re getting> water.> > As to the port lights, you are probably dealing with dried out gaskets> or failed bedding compound. I found that applying Vaseline to the> rubber gaskets did wonders to bring them back to life. You might also> want to check the caulking on the exterior part of the frame. It is not> unreasonable to have to rebed port lights on a 20 year old boat, but I’d> try the Vaseline first.> > The headliner does come out in sections, but the largest section won’t> come out if you have interior grab rails bolted through it(not all boats> do). The section of headliner above the galley is what you want to> remove to check for companionway leaks. it comes out relatively easily> after removing the teak battens.> > Al Lorman> F30 Ab Initio> > > -----Original Message-----> From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rogerweav> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 5:21 PM> To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com> Subject: [freedomyachts2003] F30 leaks in main cabin> > > > Hello F30 owners, > > I have discovered several leaks in main cabin after a harsh Northern > Michigan winter. First year stored outside, no cover or shrinkwap.> > One at top of companionway (Star) along forward edge. Suspect > traveler star side or channel for companionway top (lexon)> Two others at each port in main cabin. > > Has anyone experienced these issues? Also I suspect I will have to > pull the overhead to inspect. Does the overhead come out in sections?> > Any suggestions would be apprec,> > Roger > > > > > > IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor.> > This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.>