F30 manual bilge pump

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Posted by seychellois_lib (seychellois_lib@…>)

Last time I was on the boat I noticed pretty serious deterioration of
the external rubber bladder on my manual cockpit bilge pump. OK, to be
honest I have noticed this for several years. The pump works fine but
it is an absolute certainty that when I need this pump in an emergency
the bladder will decide to fail. So, does anyone know what the manual
pump model and mfg is?

In the past I,ve crawled around the lazarette to take a look at the
back of the pump to find a make/model and no dice. Far as I can tell
its not printed on the visible casing.

I live in Alberqueque and the boat’s in Cali. I’d like to mail order a
rebuild kit prior to my next trip out. If anyone has any input it
would be appreciated.

Mike
Jacqueline
F30 #3

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Posted by David G. Evans (dgevans@…>)

Probably a Whale Urchin; if so the handle has just a rubber cover over the end of the tube. If there’s a ball on the end of the handle, then it’s probably a Titan. The external cover doesn’t pump the water, but might be a hint of what the diaphragm inside is like!

----- Original Message -----
From: seychellois_lib
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 10:07 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] F30 manual bilge pump
Last time I was on the boat I noticed pretty serious deterioration ofthe external rubber bladder on my manual cockpit bilge pump. OK, to behonest I have noticed this for several years. The pump works fine butit is an absolute certainty that when I need this pump in an emergencythe bladder will decide to fail. So, does anyone know what the manualpump model and mfg is? In the past I,ve crawled around the lazarette to take a look at theback of the pump to find a make/model and no dice. Far as I can tellits not printed on the visible casing.I live in Alberqueque and the boat’s in Cali. I’d like to mail order arebuild kit prior to my next trip out. If anyone has any input itwould be appreciated.MikeJacquelineF30 #3

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Posted by jody kaplan (jk_cygnus@…>)
HI all, could also be a Whale Gusher 8 , its discontinued bu parts are still available . The outer part the hanlde slides in is not in the general rebuild kit , but i believe its available. Good Luck Jody Kaplan"David G. Evans" <dgevans@…> wrote:

Probably a Whale Urchin; if so the handle has just a rubber cover over the end of the tube. If there’s a ball on the end of the handle, then it’s probably a Titan. The external cover doesn’t pump the water, but might be a hint of what the diaphragm inside is like!

----- Original Message -----
From: seychellois_lib
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 10:07 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] F30 manual bilge pump
Last time I was on the boat I noticed pretty serious deterioration ofthe external rubber bladder on my manual cockpit bilge pump. OK, to behonest I have noticed this for several years. The pump works fine butit is an absolute certainty that when I need this pump in an emergencythe bladder will decide to fail. So, does anyone know what the manualpump model and mfg is? In the past I,ve crawled around the lazarette to take a look at theback of the pump to find a make/model and no dice. Far as I can tellits not printed on the visible casing.I live in Alberqueque and the boat’s in Cali. I’d like to mail order arebuild kit prior to my next trip out. If anyone has any input itwould be appreciated.MikeJacquelineF30 #3
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Posted by Doug Payne (doug.payne@…>)


Don’t have model numbers but I
replaced several parts on my Whale manual bilge pump on my 87 F 28 last year. The
outer boot definitely doesn’t effect the pumping but is indication of
potential trouble with the internal bladder that does. Mine was a Whale, and I
got replacement parts on a close out table at west marine for about $10. ( my
wife didn’t appreciate my glee at finding the correct parts cheap!) . I
removed the pump took it in to West Marine (mega store in Marina Del Ray CA
that has most of their line) and matched it up. They stock quite a lot of Whale
replacement parts. Wound up replacing the internal bladder, kept the old one
as a spare as it was still quite functional, replaced the outer boot and put
a newer plastic Whale cover on the outside of the pump in the Cockpit. This new
cover has a little door that opens upward and exposes the place for the handle,
looks more modern and works quite well. That new door fits the older pumps and
newer models as well. The internal parts fit my old pump and newer models as
well. You may have to do some further research to get part numbers, I couldn’t
find numbers on the pump body. There is a Whale distributor in San Diego, I am sure on the east
coast as well. Whale is British company if I member correctly and have a
website.

Douglas M. Payne
Managing Partner Arizona Colorado
Tatum Partners
480-614-4915 Office
480-236-4561 Mobile
480-614-4916 Fax
doug.payne@…
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-----Original Message-----
From: seychellois_lib
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Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005
8:08 AM
To:
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Subject: [freedomyachts2003] F30
manual bilge pump

Last time I was on the boat I noticed pretty
serious deterioration of
the external rubber bladder on my manual cockpit
bilge pump. OK, to be
honest I have noticed this for several years. The
pump works fine but
it is an absolute certainty that when I need this
pump in an emergency
the bladder will decide to fail. So, does anyone
know what the manual
pump model and mfg is?

In the past I,ve crawled around the lazarette to
take a look at the
back of the pump to find a make/model and no dice.
Far as I can tell
its not printed on the visible casing.

I live in Alberqueque and the boat’s in Cali. I’d
like to mail order a
rebuild kit prior to my next trip out. If anyone
has any input it
would be appreciated.

Mike
Jacqueline
F30 #3




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Posted by Lorman, Alvin J. (ajlorman@…>)

I have the same problem and just removed the rubber part (its called a gaither) so I could take it to a marine supply store and match it for a replacement. I know the pump is a Whale, but I too have never found a model number or name. I’ll share whatever I learn.

Al Lorman
F30 Ab Initio

-----Original Message-----From: Doug Payne [mailto:doug.payne@…] Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 12:09 PMTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] F30 manual bilge pump

Don’t have model numbers but I replaced several parts on my Whale manual bilge pump on my 87 F 28 last year. The outer boot definitely doesn’t effect the pumping but is indication of potential trouble with the internal bladder that does. Mine was a Whale, and I got replacement parts on a close out table at west marine for about $10. ( my wife didn’t appreciate my glee at finding the correct parts cheap!) . I removed the pump took it in to West Marine (mega store in Marina Del Ray CA that has most of their line) and matched it up. They stock quite a lot of Whale replacement parts. Wound up replacing the internal bladder, kept the old one as a spare as it was still quite functional, replaced the outer boot and put a newer plastic Whale cover on the outside of the pump in the Cockpit. This new cover has a little door that opens upward and exposes the place for the handle, looks more modern and works quite well. That new door fits the older pumps and newer models as well. The internal parts fit my old pump and newer models as well. You may have to do some further research to get part numbers, I couldn’t find numbers on the pump body. There is a Whale distributor in San Diego, I am sure on the east coast as well. Whale is British company if I member correctly and have a website.

Douglas M. Payne
Managing Partner Arizona Colorado
Tatum Partners
480-614-4915 Office
480-236-4561 Mobile
480-614-4916 Fax
doug.payne@…
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Financial and Information Technology Leadership
Tatum CFO Partners, LLP - Tatum CIO Partners, LLP www.tatumpartners.com
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-----Original Message-----From: seychellois_lib [mailto:seychellois_lib@…] Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 8:08 AMTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: [freedomyachts2003] F30 manual bilge pump

Last time I was on the boat I noticed pretty serious deterioration ofthe external rubber bladder on my manual cockpit bilge pump. OK, to behonest I have noticed this for several years. The pump works fine butit is an absolute certainty that when I need this pump in an emergencythe bladder will decide to fail. So, does anyone know what the manualpump model and mfg is? In the past I,ve crawled around the lazarette to take a look at theback of the pump to find a make/model and no dice. Far as I can tellits not printed on the visible casing.I live in Alberqueque and the boat’s in Cali. I’d like to mail order arebuild kit prior to my next trip out. If anyone has any input itwould be appreciated.MikeJacquelineF30 #3This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.

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Posted by Alan Kusinitz (akusinitz@…>)

Probably different but on my F-33 the manual pump in the cockpit is a Henderson
Mark V I believe. The rubber diaphram split once and I was able to find a
rebuild/parts kit.

Quoting “David G. Evans” <dgevans@…>:

Probably a Whale Urchin; if so the handle has just a rubber cover over the
end of the tube. If there’s a ball on the end of the handle, then it’s
probably a Titan. The external cover doesn’t pump the water, but might be a
hint of what the diaphragm inside is like!
----- Original Message -----
From: seychellois_lib
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 10:07 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] F30 manual bilge pump

Last time I was on the boat I noticed pretty serious deterioration of
the external rubber bladder on my manual cockpit bilge pump. OK, to be
honest I have noticed this for several years. The pump works fine but
it is an absolute certainty that when I need this pump in an emergency
the bladder will decide to fail. So, does anyone know what the manual
pump model and mfg is?

In the past I,ve crawled around the lazarette to take a look at the
back of the pump to find a make/model and no dice. Far as I can tell
its not printed on the visible casing.

I live in Alberqueque and the boat’s in Cali. I’d like to mail order a
rebuild kit prior to my next trip out. If anyone has any input it
would be appreciated.

Mike
Jacqueline
F30 #3

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