Posted by Lorman, Alvin J. (ajlorman@…>)
Don:
I don’t think so; that nut (really the head of a bolt) is what holds the unit together. If you only have the Fram and the engine-mounted filer, I think you need to open the bleed screw on the engine mounted filter and use the dinky little manual fuel pump lever to push the fuel through. To make life easier, make sure you fill the Fram with clean fuel before you reinstall it. Also, make sure that the perimeter O ring seats properly, or won’t won’t get an airtight seal.
Al
-----Original Message-----From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kollegewidgwockSent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:31 PMTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Fram primary filter element replacement-Thanks again Al. One final question (I hope). Is the single “nut on top” that you mentioned also the place to bleed the filter?Don-- In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Lorman, Alvin J.” <ajlorman@…> wrote:>> Don:> > The biggest problem in changing the Fram filter is that you have to> press up on the filter canister from below while you tighten the nut on> top. As there is a spring inside the filter, I always found that I had> one too few hands for the job. Then, last month I discovered the> problem. The Fram filters have a rubber gasket on top and bottom. When> replacing filters over the years, the bottom gaskets were falling off> and staying in the canister. I found it much easier to tighten when> there were no longer four old gaskets in the filters. > > Al> > -----Original Message-----> From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kollegewidgwock> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:49 AM> To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com> Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Fram primary filter element replacement> > > -Thanks Al,> I have appreciated all of the responses which suggested replacing > Fram w/ Racor but an especially grateful thanks to you for offering > advice on how to change the Fram element.> I will probably replace my primary filter eventually but, for now, I > needed helpful advice on making do with what I currently have.> Thanks again,> Don> > > > > > – In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Lorman, Alvin J.” > <ajlorman@> wrote:> >> > I have been through this on my F30. The Racor 500 series is > great, but> > I was unable to find any room in the engine “compartment” on my > boat to> > mount one. They are relatively long and require room underneath > for> > bleeding and filter changes.> > > > The original Fram filter is indeed listed as a gasoline filter. > Until I> > bought Ab Initio two years ago, it was the only filter on my boat > and> > presumably performed reasonably well. My solution was as > follows: I> > bought a Racor 215, which is a spin-on filter with a built-in > bleeding> > pump. It is relatively short and fit in the engine compartment > easily.> > I had originally intended to replace the Fram and then decided to> > install the Racor downstream of the Fram (there is enough room for> > this). The Fram is about a 30 micron filter, the Racor I use is 2> > microns (although you can get 10 and 30) and, of course, the engine> > filter is 2 microns. The Fram filter, which unscrews from the top > (the> > bottom nut is to drain the water), is not very sophisticated but > works.> > The pump on the Racor filters makes bleeding the engine relatively> > simple.> > > > The non-cartridge Racor filters are clearly less expensive than the> > cartridge filters, but I bought a lifetime supply of the cartridge> > filters on eBay for about $8 each. Similarly, I found a great > deal on> > the Fram filters on Amazon and bought them out at $4 a piece.> > > > I’d be happy to send you digital photos of my installation.> > > > Al Lorman> > F30 Ab Initio> > > > -----Original Message-----> > From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com> > [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of macks011> > Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 8:59 AM> > To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Fram primary filter element > replacement> > > > > > I agree, dump the Fram and replace with Racor. I would go further. > I > > would go with Racor 500 drop ins, available all the time on ebay. > > The replacement cartriges are cheaper than spin ons and easier to > > change. I moved all my filtration out of the engine box to a more > > accessable location, installed 2 racor 500’s with a 30 micron in > > front of a 2 micron and a Walbro elec. pump to drive it. > Bleeding’s > > a breeze and I never have to change the stupid filter on the > Yanmar > > again. > > > > — In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, dave@ wrote:> > >> > > I’d dump the whole thing and get a Racor. Our 1987 28 had come > > with one of> > > these and looking in the catalogs it appeared to be a gas not a > > diesel> > > unit anyway. 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