Posted by tuttlejr (2rats@…>)
For those that do not like wet feet or too much water in the cockpit,
consider a scupper valve. I used a set made by Attwod but there are
others out there as well. Check out this page that describes them.
Note the SeaFil brand shown.
http://mastercatalog04.westmarine.com/0527.asp
Posted by Charlie L. (clivaday@…>)
Hi Bob, and thank you for the scupper tip. Did you have to make any
adaptations, or did they just fit into the drain holes? (with some
sealer?). Thank you again for this tip, and any other F 21 tips and
advice you can give to us. Charlie on Mobile Bay, AL
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “tuttlejr” <2rats@e…>
wrote:
For those that do not like wet feet or too much water in the
cockpit,
consider a scupper valve. I used a set made by Attwod but there
are
others out there as well. Check out this page that describes them.
Note the SeaFil brand shown.
http://mastercatalog04.westmarine.com/0527.asp
Posted by tuttlejr (2rats@…>)
The scupper check valve does not go inside the hole. They are
mounted on the stern over the 2 openings. It is best to do it out of
the water if possible. I installed them in the water and dropped one
of the rubber valves but Atwood sent me another. You have to drill
several holes for the screws so you don’t want to use a corded drill
when you are wet. They really do the job.
I also copied a tip from the English F-21’s by attaching most of the
loose lines to the bulkhead using a shock cord and a plastic hook.
These can be found at most marine chandleries. Cleans up the cockpit.
I miss my Freedom 21.
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Charlie L.”
<clivaday@y…> wrote:
Hi Bob, and thank you for the scupper tip. Did you have to make any
adaptations, or did they just fit into the drain holes? (with some
sealer?). Thank you again for this tip, and any other F 21 tips and
advice you can give to us. Charlie on Mobile Bay, AL
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “tuttlejr” <2rats@e…>
Posted by Allen McClung (amcclung@…>)
May I ask exactly where you attached the shock cord and plastic hooks to hold the lines? Are they inside the cabin or inside the cockpit? It sounds like a good idea, but lots of the boats around me have nylon bags (the J-24s) on either side of the passageway. Most of these bags look custom made–at least I can’t find any commercially. They have stainless steel snaps which attach the bags to the boat, plus shock cords to draw the opening tight.
----- Original Message -----
From: tuttlejr
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 5:40 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Freedom 21 tip
The scupper check valve does not go inside the hole. They are mounted on the stern over the 2 openings. It is best to do it out of the water if possible. I installed them in the water and dropped one of the rubber valves but Atwood sent me another. You have to drill several holes for the screws so you don’t want to use a corded drill when you are wet. They really do the job.I also copied a tip from the English F-21’s by attaching most of the loose lines to the bulkhead using a shock cord and a plastic hook. These can be found at most marine chandleries. Cleans up the cockpit.I miss my Freedom 21.— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Charlie L.” <clivaday@y…> wrote:> Hi Bob, and thank you for the scupper tip. Did you have to make any > adaptations, or did they just fit into the drain holes? (with some > sealer?). Thank you again for this tip, and any other F 21 tips and > advice you can give to us. Charlie on Mobile Bay, AL> > — In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “tuttlejr” <2rats@e…>
Posted by Bob Tuttle (2rats@…>)
Those clips and shockcord attach to the outside bulkhead. At one
time they were shown on the UK page for Freedom 21’s but I don’t
believe that it is active any longer. If the clips were inside the
cabin there would be a problem with the lines going through the
companionway plus there would be no reason to mount them there.
I also mounted a track P & S for some Harken blocks for the sheets
for the jib. They also had cam cleats on them which made it quite
handy for trimming.
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Allen McClung”
<amcclung@f…> wrote:
May I ask exactly where you attached the shock cord and plastic
hooks to hold the lines? Are they inside the cabin or inside the
cockpit? It sounds like a good idea, but lots of the boats around me
have nylon bags (the J-24s) on either side of the passageway. Most of
these bags look custom made–at least I can’t find any commercially.
They have stainless steel snaps which attach the bags to the boat,
plus shock cords to draw the opening tight.
----- Original Message -----
From: tuttlejr
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 5:40 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Freedom 21 tip
The scupper check valve does not go inside the hole. They are
mounted on the stern over the 2 openings. It is best to do it
out of
the water if possible. I installed them in the water and dropped
one
of the rubber valves but Atwood sent me another. You have to
drill
several holes for the screws so you don’t want to use a corded
drill
when you are wet. They really do the job.
I also copied a tip from the English F-21’s by attaching most of
the
loose lines to the bulkhead using a shock cord and a plastic
hook.
These can be found at most marine chandleries. Cleans up the
cockpit.
I miss my Freedom 21.
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Charlie L.”
<clivaday@y…> wrote:
Hi Bob, and thank you for the scupper tip. Did you have to make
any
adaptations, or did they just fit into the drain holes? (with
some
sealer?). Thank you again for this tip, and any other F 21 tips
and
advice you can give to us. Charlie on Mobile Bay, AL
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “tuttlejr”
<2rats@e…>
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Posted by Allen McClung (amcclung@…>)
Thank you for the information.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Tuttle
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 8:41 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Freedom 21 tip
Those clips and shockcord attach to the outside bulkhead. At one time they were shown on the UK page for Freedom 21’s but I don’t believe that it is active any longer. If the clips were inside the cabin there would be a problem with the lines going through the companionway plus there would be no reason to mount them there.I also mounted a track P & S for some Harken blocks for the sheets for the jib. They also had cam cleats on them which made it quite handy for trimming.— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Allen McClung” <amcclung@f…> wrote:> May I ask exactly where you attached the shock cord and plastic hooks to hold the lines? Are they inside the cabin or inside the cockpit? It sounds like a good idea, but lots of the boats around me have nylon bags (the J-24s) on either side of the passageway. Most of these bags look custom made–at least I can’t find any commercially. They have stainless steel snaps which attach the bags to the boat, plus shock cords to draw the opening tight.> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: tuttlejr > To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 5:40 PM> Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Freedom 21 tip> > > The scupper check valve does not go inside the hole. They are > mounted on the stern over the 2 openings. It is best to do it out of > the water if possible. I installed them in the water and dropped one > of the rubber valves but Atwood sent me another. You have to drill > several holes for the screws so you don’t want to use a corded drill > when you are wet. They really do the job.> > I also copied a tip from the English F-21’s by attaching most of the > loose lines to the bulkhead using a shock cord and a plastic hook. > These can be found at most marine chandleries. Cleans up the cockpit.> > I miss my Freedom 21.> > > > > — In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Charlie L.” > <clivaday@y…> wrote:> > Hi Bob, and thank you for the scupper tip. Did you have to make any > > adaptations, or did they just fit into the drain holes? (with some > > sealer?). Thank you again for this tip, and any other F 21 tips and > > advice you can give to us. Charlie on Mobile Bay, AL> > > > — In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “tuttlejr” <2rats@e…> > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------> Yahoo! Groups Links> > a… To visit your group on the web, go to:> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/freedomyachts2003/> > b… To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:> freedomyachts2003-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> > c… Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.