Freedom 25: how many pax is too much?

Posted by fgljff (fgljff@…>)

I’ve noticed that if I have more than three people in the cockpit of my Freedom
25 it tends to
squat in the water to the point where the exhaust port is awash. How many people
was this
boat designed to carry in the cockpit?

Posted by Herman and Gail Schiller (hschiller2@…>)

I don’t see trivial immersion of the exhaust port as causing any
problem (remember, most outboards have their exhaust ports
underwater). However, I would check that the rubber exhaust hose
inside the boat has a (very) high loop in it that serves to exclude
any water from backing up into the waterlift muffler. Based on my
experience with the F-25, and now the Freedom Mull 28, their boats
ride quite a bit lower than the designed water line. You’ll find most
folks have elevated their bottom paint 3"-4" higher on their boats
and this brings the exhaust port very close to the actual water line.
My Mull-designed 28-footer allegedly draws 4’6". When measured to the
scum line when on the hard, it draws 6’10". Get the picture? Herm

At 08:44 AM 10/17/2007, you wrote:

I’ve noticed that if I have more than three people in the cockpit of
my Freedom 25 it tends to
squat in the water to the point where the exhaust port is awash. How
many people was this
boat designed to carry in the cockpit?

Posted by Al Lorman (ajl@…>)


Herm:

My
F30, which is much like your F28, certainly draws more than 4’6”.
But 6’10”? Is that a typo? I’d love to see a
photo of that.

Al
Lorman
F30
Ab Initio



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Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Freedom 25: how many pax is too much?

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I don’t see trivial immersion of the exhaust
port as causing any
problem (remember, most outboards have their exhaust ports
underwater). However, I would check that the rubber exhaust hose
inside the boat has a (very) high loop in it that serves to exclude
any water from backing up into the waterlift muffler. Based on my
experience with the F-25, and now the Freedom Mull 28, their boats
ride quite a bit lower than the designed water line. You’ll find most
folks have elevated their bottom paint 3"-4" higher on their boats
and this brings the exhaust port very close to the actual water line.
My Mull-designed 28-footer allegedly draws 4’6". When measured to the
scum line when on the hard, it draws 6’10". Get the picture? Herm

At 08:44 AM 10/17/2007, you wrote:

I’ve noticed that if I have more than three people in the cockpit of
my Freedom 25 it tends to
squat in the water to the point where the exhaust port is awash. How
many people was this
boat designed to carry in the cockpit?



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Posted by Herman and Gail Schiller (hschiller2@…>)

Al,
Sorry, that’s a typo. The actual measurement is 4’10". Given
that I have very little extra water depth at my dock, the 4"
difference has been a major disappointment. The water in North
Carolina’s Pamlico Sound sloshes (!) down my way when wind is NE, and
leaves me stuck in the muck at my dock when the wind is SW. Herm

At 06:03 PM 10/17/2007, you wrote:

Herm:

My F30, which is much like your F28, certainly draws more than
4’6". But 6’10"? Is that a typo? I’d love to see a photo of that.

Al Lorman

F30 Ab Initio

From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Herman and
Gail Schiller
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 5:30 PM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Freedom 25: how many pax is too much?

I don’t see trivial immersion of the exhaust port as causing any
problem (remember, most outboards have their exhaust ports
underwater). However, I would check that the rubber exhaust hose
inside the boat has a (very) high loop in it that serves to exclude
any water from backing up into the waterlift muffler. Based on my
experience with the F-25, and now the Freedom Mull 28, their boats
ride quite a bit lower than the designed water line. You’ll find most
folks have elevated their bottom paint 3"-4" higher on their boats
and this brings the exhaust port very close to the actual water line.
My Mull-designed 28-footer allegedly draws 4’6". When measured to the
scum line when on the hard, it draws 6’10". Get the picture? Herm

At 08:44 AM 10/17/2007, you wrote:

I’ve noticed that if I have more than three people in the cockpit of
my Freedom 25 it tends to
squat in the water to the point where the exhaust port is awash. How
many people was this
boat designed to carry in the cockpit?

Posted by Al Lorman (ajl@…>)


Herm:

I’m
relieved. I had visions of your boat with decks awash. My F30 draws
5’ and I’ve run aground in my slip a few times.

Al



From:
freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Herman and Gail Schiller
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 8:51 PM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] Freedom 25: how many pax is too much?

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Al,
Sorry, that’s a typo. The actual measurement is 4’10". Given
that I have very little extra water depth at my dock, the 4"
difference has been a major disappointment. The water in North
Carolina’s Pamlico Sound sloshes (!) down my way when wind is NE, and
leaves me stuck in the muck at my dock when the wind is SW. Herm

At 06:03 PM 10/17/2007, you wrote:

Herm:

My F30, which is much like your F28, certainly draws more than
4’6". But 6’10"? Is that a typo? I’d love to see a photo of that.

Al Lorman

F30 Ab Initio

From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com

[mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Herman and
Gail Schiller
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 5:30 PM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Freedom 25: how many pax is too much?

I don’t see trivial immersion of the exhaust port as causing any
problem (remember, most outboards have their exhaust ports
underwater). However, I would check that the rubber exhaust hose
inside the boat has a (very) high loop in it that serves to exclude
any water from backing up into the waterlift muffler. Based on my
experience with the F-25, and now the Freedom Mull 28, their boats
ride quite a bit lower than the designed water line. You’ll find most
folks have elevated their bottom paint 3"-4" higher on their
boats
and this brings the exhaust port very close to the actual water line.
My Mull-designed 28-footer allegedly draws 4’6". When measured to the
scum line when on the hard, it draws 6’10". Get the picture? Herm

At 08:44 AM 10/17/2007, you wrote:

I’ve noticed that if I have more than three people in the cockpit of
my Freedom 25 it tends to
squat in the water to the point where the exhaust port is awash. How
many people was this
boat designed to carry in the cockpit?



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