Posted by Kevin Taylor (kevin683@…>)
Just had a wonderful Sunday sailing out of Holland, MI with the family
on our '85 Hoyt Freedom 32.
I did a better job of raising the main. Last time, the little batten
kept getting stuck in the lazy jacks.
Someone mentioned loosening the lazy jacks before raising the main.
The way mine are rigged, they are not adjustable. I would like to see
if anyone can explain how they are SUPPOSED to be rigged?
My lazy jacks have a line going from a cleat on the forward underside
of the boom up to the starboard lazy jack pully then down and aft to a
eye under the boom and aft of the beforementioned cleat. Then the
bitter end is tied off to the end of the boom.
The other lazy jack line on the starboard side is the same. It goes
from the cleat up to the pulley and then aft to the eye under the
boom. Then it goes back to the aft boom and is tied off.
The ends attached to the cleat under the boom are splices and both
lazy jacks are tight as hell. No way they have been adjusted without
undoing the very tight knots at the aft end of the boom.
One other thing I noticed that may be related is that in the aft end
of the boom there are three sheeves built into the boom. The middle
and starboard ones are in use. The port sheeve is not. Is this sheeve
supposed to be used by the lazy jack lines?
Thanks for any help.
–Kevin
Posted by Herman and Gail Schiller (hschiller2@…>)
Kevin,
The lazy jack line (singular) goes from the cleat under the
boom (it’s tied to the hole in the cleat with a bowline) up to the
block on one side of the sail, thence to the bullseye under the
boom, thence back up to the block on the other side of the sail, and
ends up back at the cleat to be adjusted. Note that it’s a single
line that does all this.
Herm SV Impulse
At 09:37 PM 10/2/2006, you wrote:
Just had a wonderful Sunday sailing out of Holland, MI with the family
on our '85 Hoyt Freedom 32.
I did a better job of raising the main. Last time, the little batten
kept getting stuck in the lazy jacks.
Someone mentioned loosening the lazy jacks before raising the main.
The way mine are rigged, they are not adjustable. I would like to see
if anyone can explain how they are SUPPOSED to be rigged?
My lazy jacks have a line going from a cleat on the forward underside
of the boom up to the starboard lazy jack pully then down and aft to a
eye under the boom and aft of the beforementioned cleat. Then the
bitter end is tied off to the end of the boom.
The other lazy jack line on the starboard side is the same. It goes
from the cleat up to the pulley and then aft to the eye under the
boom. Then it goes back to the aft boom and is tied off.
The ends attached to the cleat under the boom are splices and both
lazy jacks are tight as hell. No way they have been adjusted without
undoing the very tight knots at the aft end of the boom.
One other thing I noticed that may be related is that in the aft end
of the boom there are three sheeves built into the boom. The middle
and starboard ones are in use. The port sheeve is not. Is this sheeve
supposed to be used by the lazy jack lines?
Thanks for any help.
–Kevin
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Posted by Lorman, Alvin J. (ajlorman@…>)
Kevin:
I have a Mull 30, but on my boom there is also one spare sheave.
If your boat has a rigid boom vang, (not standard equipment), you can easily rerig your lazy jacks to make them adjustable from the cockpit.
Al Lorman
F30 Ab Initio
-----Original Message-----From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin TaylorSent: Monday, October 02, 2006 9:37 PMTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: [freedomyachts2003] Freedom 32 Lazy Jacks
Just had a wonderful Sunday sailing out of Holland, MI with the familyon our '85 Hoyt Freedom 32.I did a better job of raising the main. Last time, the little battenkept getting stuck in the lazy jacks.Someone mentioned loosening the lazy jacks before raising the main.The way mine are rigged, they are not adjustable. I would like to seeif anyone can explain how they are SUPPOSED to be rigged?My lazy jacks have a line going from a cleat on the forward undersideof the boom up to the starboard lazy jack pully then down and aft to aeye under the boom and aft of the beforementioned cleat. Then thebitter end is tied off to the end of the boom.The other lazy jack line on the starboard side is the same. It goesfrom the cleat up to the pulley and then aft to the eye under theboom. Then it goes back to the aft boom and is tied off.The ends attached to the cleat under the boom are splices and bothlazy jacks are tight as hell. No way they have been adjusted withoutundoing the very tight knots at the aft end of the boom.One other thing I noticed that may be related is that in the aft endof the boom there are three sheeves built into the boom. The middleand starboard ones are in use. The port sheeve is not. Is this sheevesupposed to be used by the lazy jack lines?Thanks for any help.–Kevin
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Posted by michel.capel (michel.capel@…>)
The middle sheave is for the outhaul and the port and starboard
sheaves are usually used for the first and second reef. Some booms
have four sheaves, so there is room for a third reef.
Adjusting lazyjacks is often done by a piece of shockcord runnning
from halfway on the portside line around the front of the mast
(fixed in an eyelet) to the strboard lazyjack line. To make this
work, you have to run the lazyjack line as a continuous, single line
from the boom to one side of the sail, then to the other and then to
the cockpit. Slacking the line results in the shockcord pulling the
lazyjacks forward and out of the way of your battens.
Regards,
michel
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Kevin Taylor”
<kevin683@…> wrote:
Just had a wonderful Sunday sailing out of Holland, MI with the
family
on our '85 Hoyt Freedom 32.
I did a better job of raising the main. Last time, the little
batten
kept getting stuck in the lazy jacks.
Someone mentioned loosening the lazy jacks before raising the main.
The way mine are rigged, they are not adjustable. I would like to
see
if anyone can explain how they are SUPPOSED to be rigged?
My lazy jacks have a line going from a cleat on the forward
underside
of the boom up to the starboard lazy jack pully then down and aft
to a
eye under the boom and aft of the beforementioned cleat. Then the
bitter end is tied off to the end of the boom.
The other lazy jack line on the starboard side is the same. It goes
from the cleat up to the pulley and then aft to the eye under the
boom. Then it goes back to the aft boom and is tied off.
The ends attached to the cleat under the boom are splices and both
lazy jacks are tight as hell. No way they have been adjusted
without
undoing the very tight knots at the aft end of the boom.
One other thing I noticed that may be related is that in the aft
end
of the boom there are three sheeves built into the boom. The middle
and starboard ones are in use. The port sheeve is not. Is this
sheeve
supposed to be used by the lazy jack lines?
Thanks for any help.
–Kevin
Posted by Lorman, Alvin J. (ajlorman@…>)
Michel:
Now that you mention it, I do have four sheaves on my boom, one unused. Duh!
Al Lorman
-----Original Message-----From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of michel.capelSent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 3:26 AMTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Freedom 32 Lazy Jacks
The middle sheave is for the outhaul and the port and starboard sheaves are usually used for the first and second reef. Some booms have four sheaves, so there is room for a third reef.Adjusting lazyjacks is often done by a piece of shockcord runnning from halfway on the portside line around the front of the mast (fixed in an eyelet) to the strboard lazyjack line. To make this work, you have to run the lazyjack line as a continuous, single line from the boom to one side of the sail, then to the other and then to the cockpit. Slacking the line results in the shockcord pulling the lazyjacks forward and out of the way of your battens.Regards,michel— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Kevin Taylor” <kevin683@…> wrote:>> Just had a wonderful Sunday sailing out of Holland, MI with the family> on our '85 Hoyt Freedom 32.> > I did a better job of raising the main. Last time, the little batten> kept getting stuck in the lazy jacks.> > Someone mentioned loosening the lazy jacks before raising the main.> The way mine are rigged, they are not adjustable. I would like to see> if anyone can explain how they are SUPPOSED to be rigged?> > My lazy jacks have a line going from a cleat on the forward underside> of the boom up to the starboard lazy jack pully then down and aft to a> eye under the boom and aft of the beforementioned cleat. Then the> bitter end is tied off to the end of the boom.> > The other lazy jack line on the starboard side is the same. It goes> from the cleat up to the pulley and then aft to the eye under the> boom. Then it goes back to the aft boom and is tied off.> > The ends attached to the cleat under the boom are splices and both> lazy jacks are tight as hell. No way they have been adjusted without> undoing the very tight knots at the aft end of the boom.> > One other thing I noticed that may be related is that in the aft end> of the boom there are three sheeves built into the boom. The middle> and starboard ones are in use. The port sheeve is not. Is this sheeve> supposed to be used by the lazy jack lines?> > Thanks for any help.> > --Kevin>
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Posted by Kevin Taylor (kevin683@…>)
Whew. Thanks for confirming this. I traced the lazy jack lines back
and forth on Sunday and for the life of me couldn’t figure out how
they were adjustable, as currently rigged.
I’ll need to get a new line and rerig it for Spring.
Thanks to all for your tips.
Best,
–Kevin
On 10/2/06, Herman and Gail Schiller <hschiller2@…> wrote:
Kevin,
The lazy jack line (singular) goes from the cleat under the
boom (it’s tied to the hole in the cleat with a bowline) up to the
block on one side of the sail, thence to the bullseye under the
boom, thence back up to the block on the other side of the sail, and
ends up back at the cleat to be adjusted. Note that it’s a single
line that does all this.
Herm SV Impulse
At 09:37 PM 10/2/2006, you wrote:
Just had a wonderful Sunday sailing out of Holland, MI with the family
on our '85 Hoyt Freedom 32.
I did a better job of raising the main. Last time, the little batten
kept getting stuck in the lazy jacks.
Someone mentioned loosening the lazy jacks before raising the main.
The way mine are rigged, they are not adjustable. I would like to see
if anyone can explain how they are SUPPOSED to be rigged?
My lazy jacks have a line going from a cleat on the forward underside
of the boom up to the starboard lazy jack pully then down and aft to a
eye under the boom and aft of the beforementioned cleat. Then the
bitter end is tied off to the end of the boom.
The other lazy jack line on the starboard side is the same. It goes
from the cleat up to the pulley and then aft to the eye under the
boom. Then it goes back to the aft boom and is tied off.
The ends attached to the cleat under the boom are splices and both
lazy jacks are tight as hell. No way they have been adjusted without
undoing the very tight knots at the aft end of the boom.
One other thing I noticed that may be related is that in the aft end
of the boom there are three sheeves built into the boom. The middle
and starboard ones are in use. The port sheeve is not. Is this sheeve
supposed to be used by the lazy jack lines?
Thanks for any help.
–Kevin