Freedom 65

Posted by Mark Edwards (markedwards55@…>)

Lance and Michel:
the Freedom 65/70 was built in the UK and the first of these raced
in the “Two-Star” double handed Trans-Atlantic back in the day.
This was a three masted schooner with amazing power and volume. If
I’m not mistaken, it was built by Fairways Marine which folded while
the boat was out of the country. I lost track of her when she
returned to the East side of the pond. She had three 65’ free
standing carbon spars which were built here and shipped across. This
rig included three massive wishbone booms. I don’t know if I still
have photos but I’ll send them along if I find them.
Best,
Mark Edwards

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “michel.capel”
<michel.capel@…> wrote:

Sure Lance! But what’s a sawzall…?

btw: there is an 80 foot freedom, I’ll send you a picture.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “lance_ryley”
<lance_ryley@> wrote:

Now if I could only figure out how to mold these into a three-
masted,
85’ Cat Schooner, I may have the ultimate Freedom - Michel, can
I
borrow your sawzall??

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “michel.capel”
<michel.capel@> wrote:

Noow, Lance and his wife need more space for their shoes and
clothes
hangers.

Posted by michel.capel (michel.capel@…>)

Mark,
Thanks for your fill-in. I have this photo somewhere, I’ll post it.

Now that you’re here Mark, I’ve seen design drawings of a Freedom
catketch designed for carrying cargo. It has a cargo hold between
the masts (15 cubic meters, I believe) and a small living space aft
of the mizzen. Do you know anything about that?

Further, I post a very interesting photo of a Tanton 37 catschooner
with TWO huge staysails! Very interesting rig; it makes my mouth
water.

Michel


— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Mark Edwards”
<markedwards55@…> wrote:

Lance and Michel:
the Freedom 65/70 was built in the UK and the first of these raced
in the “Two-Star” double handed Trans-Atlantic back in the day.
This was a three masted schooner with amazing power and volume.
If
I’m not mistaken, it was built by Fairways Marine which folded
while
the boat was out of the country. I lost track of her when she
returned to the East side of the pond. She had three 65’ free
standing carbon spars which were built here and shipped across.
This
rig included three massive wishbone booms. I don’t know if I
still
have photos but I’ll send them along if I find them.
Best,
Mark Edwards

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “michel.capel”
<michel.capel@> wrote:

Sure Lance! But what’s a sawzall…?

btw: there is an 80 foot freedom, I’ll send you a picture.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “lance_ryley”
<lance_ryley@> wrote:

Now if I could only figure out how to mold these into a three-
masted,
85’ Cat Schooner, I may have the ultimate Freedom - Michel,
can
I
borrow your sawzall??

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “michel.capel”
<michel.capel@> wrote:

Noow, Lance and his wife need more space for their shoes and
clothes
hangers.

Posted by Alan Kusinitz (akusinitz@…>)



Just a reminder some of us are trying to move
all new things to freedomownersgroup where we can prevent spam and ensure adequate
space etc. We’re hoping use of freedomyachts2003 group will decline and just
be left for historical purposes.
We’re trying to encourage folks to
join and use freedomownersgroup instead of this group.
Regards,
Alan F-33 Hull #51 SEAPR





From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of michel.capel
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 9:04
AM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re:
Freedom 65




Mark,
Thanks for your fill-in. I have this photo somewhere, I’ll post it.

Now that you’re here Mark, I’ve seen design drawings of a Freedom
catketch designed for carrying cargo. It has a cargo hold between
the masts (15 cubic meters, I believe) and a small living space aft
of the mizzen. Do you know anything about that?

Further, I post a very interesting photo of a Tanton 37 catschooner
with TWO huge staysails! Very interesting rig; it makes my mouth
water.

Michel

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com,
“Mark Edwards”
<markedwards55@…> wrote:

Lance and Michel:
the Freedom 65/70 was built in the UK and the first of these raced
in the “Two-Star” double handed Trans-Atlantic back in the day.
This was a three masted schooner with amazing power and volume.
If
I’m not mistaken, it was built by Fairways Marine which folded
while
the boat was out of the country. I lost track of her when she
returned to the East side of the pond. She had three 65’ free
standing carbon spars which were built here and shipped across.
This
rig included three massive wishbone booms. I don’t know if I
still
have photos but I’ll send them along if I find them.
Best,
Mark Edwards

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com,
“michel.capel”
<michel.capel@> wrote:

Sure Lance! But what’s a sawzall…?

btw: there is an 80 foot freedom, I’ll send you a picture.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com,
“lance_ryley”
<lance_ryley@> wrote:

Now if I could only figure out how to mold these into a three-
masted,
85’ Cat Schooner, I may have the ultimate Freedom - Michel,
can
I
borrow your sawzall??

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com,
“michel.capel”
<michel.capel@> wrote:

Noow, Lance and his wife need more space for their shoes
and
clothes
hangers.


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Posted by Larry Kraus (kracherlandl@…>)

Hi Alan,

How do we get to and join the new site?

Larry Kraus
Hoyt-32

Alan Kusinitz wrote:

Just a reminder some of us are trying to move all new things to
freedomownersgroup where we can prevent spam and ensure adequate space
etc. We’re hoping use of freedomyachts2003 group will decline and just
be left for historical purposes.

We’re trying to encourage folks to join and use freedomownersgroup
instead of this group.

Regards,

Alan F-33 Hull #51 SEAPR


From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *michel.capel
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 9:04 AM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Freedom 65

Mark,
Thanks for your fill-in. I have this photo somewhere, I’ll post it.

Now that you’re here Mark, I’ve seen design drawings of a Freedom
catketch designed for carrying cargo. It has a cargo hold between
the masts (15 cubic meters, I believe) and a small living space aft
of the mizzen. Do you know anything about that?

Further, I post a very interesting photo of a Tanton 37 catschooner
with TWO huge staysails! Very interesting rig; it makes my mouth
water.

Michel

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
mailto:freedomyachts2003%40yahoogroups.com, “Mark Edwards”
<markedwards55@…> wrote:

Lance and Michel:
the Freedom 65/70 was built in the UK and the first of these raced
in the “Two-Star” double handed Trans-Atlantic back in the day.
This was a three masted schooner with amazing power and volume.
If
I’m not mistaken, it was built by Fairways Marine which folded
while
the boat was out of the country. I lost track of her when she
returned to the East side of the pond. She had three 65’ free
standing carbon spars which were built here and shipped across.
This
rig included three massive wishbone booms. I don’t know if I
still
have photos but I’ll send them along if I find them.
Best,
Mark Edwards

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
mailto:freedomyachts2003%40yahoogroups.com, “michel.capel”
<michel.capel@> wrote:

Sure Lance! But what’s a sawzall…?

btw: there is an 80 foot freedom, I’ll send you a picture.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
mailto:freedomyachts2003%40yahoogroups.com, “lance_ryley”
<lance_ryley@> wrote:

Now if I could only figure out how to mold these into a three-
masted,
85’ Cat Schooner, I may have the ultimate Freedom - Michel,
can
I
borrow your sawzall??

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
mailto:freedomyachts2003%40yahoogroups.com, “michel.capel”
<michel.capel@> wrote:

Noow, Lance and his wife need more space for their shoes and
clothes
hangers.

Posted by gjschouten (schouten@…>)

Hi Michel,
I have a brochure from Freedom UK showing the consept of the freiht
version. Come and get it.
Gio



— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “michel.capel”
<michel.capel@…> wrote:

Mark,
Thanks for your fill-in. I have this photo somewhere, I’ll post
it.

Now that you’re here Mark, I’ve seen design drawings of a Freedom
catketch designed for carrying cargo. It has a cargo hold between
the masts (15 cubic meters, I believe) and a small living space
aft
of the mizzen. Do you know anything about that?

Further, I post a very interesting photo of a Tanton 37
catschooner
with TWO huge staysails! Very interesting rig; it makes my mouth
water.

Michel

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Mark Edwards”
<markedwards55@> wrote:

Lance and Michel:
the Freedom 65/70 was built in the UK and the first of these
raced
in the “Two-Star” double handed Trans-Atlantic back in the day.
This was a three masted schooner with amazing power and volume.
If
I’m not mistaken, it was built by Fairways Marine which folded
while
the boat was out of the country. I lost track of her when she
returned to the East side of the pond. She had three 65’ free
standing carbon spars which were built here and shipped across.
This
rig included three massive wishbone booms. I don’t know if I
still
have photos but I’ll send them along if I find them.
Best,
Mark Edwards

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “michel.capel”
<michel.capel@> wrote:

Sure Lance! But what’s a sawzall…?

btw: there is an 80 foot freedom, I’ll send you a picture.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “lance_ryley”
<lance_ryley@> wrote:

Now if I could only figure out how to mold these into a
three-
masted,
85’ Cat Schooner, I may have the ultimate Freedom - Michel,
can
I
borrow your sawzall??

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “michel.capel”
<michel.capel@> wrote:

Noow, Lance and his wife need more space for their shoes
and
clothes
hangers.

Posted by ABC (oldbrochan@…>)

Mark,

There are two photographs of the Freedom 65 on Page 47
of Garry Hoyt’s book “Ready About”.

The pictured boat was named “Kriter Lady II” - on her
hull she carries the (race?) number 65.

Members of this board, who do not have a copy of the
foregoing book, may be interested in the contents of
the photo caption which reads as follows:-

Quote

The Freedom 65 was the largest freestanding-sparred
sailing yacht ever built. It’s wraparound sails were
difficult to handle - fully battened sails would have
been easier. Nonetheless, this boat - with a skilled
crew under skipper Rob James - made an Atlantic
crossing (west to east) of 13 days 10 hours,
demonstrating the potential for this rig. Her carbon
fiber masts were stronger than solid aluminium of the
same diameter.

Unquote

Kindest Regards

David



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