Posted by rbrink239 (rbrink239@…>)
I" looking for any informatiom that I can get on this model boat pros
or cons. I am not at all familure with Freedom noats and am thinking
about buying 1.
Posted by buzz mills (buzndeb@…>)
We just bought a 1996 40/40 in August and WE LOVE IT!!! Like you, we were totally unfamiliar with the Freedoms until we stumbled across the one we purchased. Our previous boat was a 1980 Cal 35.
This boat had everything we wanted in a cruising capacity. It has a very roomy and luxurious interior. The cherry woodwork is incredible. There’s tons of storage…TONS! The separate large shower is one of our favorite features - we didn’t have a shower on our Cal35, so to speak…it was always cockpit solar showers! The aft stateroom is very comfortable. The bed is athwartship, but it hasn’t bothered us in the least. Having a queen size bed, using normal sized sheets is great. The salon is large and comfortable, and our nav station is well laid out.
Tankage is good on our boat. Fuel is around 80 (with an added day tank). The forward holding tank was removed and another water tank installed, so we have approx 140 gal. water capacity. Aft holding tank is approx 40 gal. The toilet in the forward head was removed and a work bench and tool storage area installed in its place. My husband loves having all that space for his tools/spares/etc.
Exterior-wise we love the large roomy foredeck, with NO standing rigging. So easy to go forward, when necessary. Cockpit is large enough to host 6-8 people comfortably. The cockpit table is very sturdy, large and built like a tank. Don’t know how we ever lived without the walk-thru transom. Our 40/40 has a custom arch added on, and so we can lift our dinghy out of the water and cruise with it on its davits. Getting into and out of the dinghy is so much easier with the walkthru transom.
One of our initial concerns of couse was how well Eos would sail. Our Cal35 pointed upwind quite well, and so we were thrilled to learn Eos could point just as well!! Downwind she flies. Being a much beamier and heavier boat, her stability thru the water is remarkable to us. Working with the sails is very easy because everything is lead back to the cockpit. The camberspar was removed on our boat and replaced with a roller furling jib. We can still sheet the jib thru blocks lead back to the cockpit’s s/tailing winches and tighten up the jib when needed, but most of the time we allow the self-tacking feature to take charge. It’s great to have these options. We honestly can’t find one thing to complain about in the 40/40!
We have a FlexOFold 3 bladed prop and can motor at 6.5-7 kts easily.
We spent the first two weeks of October bringing Eos from Santa Barbara to Oceanside CA. Spent time in the Channel Islands and then down thru Catalina Island. Not one complaint arose regarding the boat ~ our only disappointment was we had very few windy days to enjoy her true sailing abilities!!
Hope this helps your decision making process. You can contact me personally if you would like any other specific information.
Debbie Mills
s/v Eos
ps…anybody in the market for a camberspar???..taking up lots of space in our garage!
----- Original Message ----From: rbrink239 <rbrink239@…>To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSent: Saturday, November 4, 2006 6:43:42 AMSubject: [freedomyachts2003] Freedom40/40 2001
I" looking for any informatiom that I can get on this model boat pros or cons. I am not at all familure with Freedom noats and am thinking about buying 1.
Posted by rbrink239 (rbrink239@…>)
Thanks ever so much for the info. Is there any other reason to get
rid of the camber spar than to clear the fore deck.
Richard
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, buzz mills <buzndeb@…>
wrote:
We just bought a 1996 40/40 in August and WE LOVE IT!!! Like
you, we were totally unfamiliar with the Freedoms until we stumbled
across the one we purchased. Our previous boat was a 1980 Cal 35.This boat had everything we wanted in a cruising capacity. It has
a very roomy and luxurious interior. The cherry woodwork is
incredible. There’s tons of storage…TONS! The separate large
shower is one of our favorite features - we didn’t have a shower on
our Cal35, so to speak…it was always cockpit solar showers! The
aft stateroom is very comfortable. The bed is athwartship, but it
hasn’t bothered us in the least. Having a queen size bed, using
normal sized sheets is great. The salon is large and comfortable,
and our nav station is well laid out.Tankage is good on our boat. Fuel is around 80 (with an added day
tank). The forward holding tank was removed and another water tank
installed, so we have approx 140 gal. water capacity. Aft holding
tank is approx 40 gal. The toilet in the forward head was removed
and a work bench and tool storage area installed in its place. My
husband loves having all that space for his tools/spares/etc.Exterior-wise we love the large roomy foredeck, with NO standing
rigging. So easy to go forward, when necessary. Cockpit is large
enough to host 6-8 people comfortably. The cockpit table is very
sturdy, large and built like a tank. Don’t know how we ever lived
without the walk-thru transom. Our 40/40 has a custom arch added on,
and so we can lift our dinghy out of the water and cruise with it on
its davits. Getting into and out of the dinghy is so much easier
with the walkthru transom.One of our initial concerns of couse was how well Eos would sail.
Our Cal35 pointed upwind quite well, and so we were thrilled to learn
Eos could point just as well!! Downwind she flies. Being a much
beamier and heavier boat, her stability thru the water is remarkable
to us. Working with the sails is very easy because everything is
lead back to the cockpit. The camberspar was removed on our boat and
replaced with a roller furling jib. We can still sheet the jib thru
blocks lead back to the cockpit’s s/tailing winches and tighten up
the jib when needed, but most of the time we allow the self-tacking
feature to take charge. It’s great to have these options. We
honestly can’t find one thing to complain about in the 40/40!We have a FlexOFold 3 bladed prop and can motor at 6.5-7 kts easily.
We spent the first two weeks of October bringing Eos from Santa
Barbara to Oceanside CA. Spent time in the Channel Islands and then
down thru Catalina Island. Not one complaint arose regarding the
boat ~ our only disappointment was we had very few windy days to
enjoy her true sailing abilities!!Hope this helps your decision making process. You can contact me
personally if you would like any other specific information.
Debbie Mills
s/v Eosps…anybody in the market for a camberspar???..taking up
lots of space in our garage!----- Original Message ----
From: rbrink239 <rbrink239@…>
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2006 6:43:42 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Freedom40/40 2001I" looking for any informatiom that I can get on this model boat
pros
or cons. I am not at all familure with Freedom noats and am
thinking
about buying 1.
Posted by buzz mills (buzndeb@…>)
The prior owner of our boat said it only took getting bludgeoned a couple of times with the camber spar, when attempting to anchor in 30 kt winds, to appreciate the safety of a roller furling jib. We love having the foredeck clear. Got a whisker pole which we can use to pole out the jib if needed. The previous owner was also a racer at heart, and he didn’t seem to feel the integrity of the sail plan was compromised by getting rid of the camber spar.
Debbie Mills
s/v Eos
----- Original Message ----From: rbrink239 <rbrink239@…>To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSent: Monday, November 6, 2006 6:59:58 AMSubject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Freedom40/40 2001
Thanks ever so much for the info. Is there any other reason to get rid of the camber spar than to clear the fore deck.Richard— In freedomyachts2003@ yahoogroups. com, buzz mills <buzndeb@… > wrote:>> We just bought a 1996 40/40 in August and WE LOVE IT!!! Like you, we were totally unfamiliar with the Freedoms until we stumbled across the one we purchased. Our previous boat was a 1980 Cal 35. > > This boat had everything we wanted in a cruising capacity. It has a very roomy and luxurious interior. The cherry woodwork is incredible. There’s tons of storage…TONS! The separate large shower is one of our favorite features - we didn’t have a shower on our Cal35, so to speak…it was always cockpit solar showers! The aft stateroom is very comfortable. The bed is athwartship, but it hasn’t bothered us
in the least. Having a queen size bed, using normal sized sheets is great. The salon is large and comfortable, and our nav station is well laid out. > > Tankage is good on our boat. Fuel is around 80 (with an added day tank). The forward holding tank was removed and another water tank installed, so we have approx 140 gal. water capacity. Aft holding tank is approx 40 gal. The toilet in the forward head was removed and a work bench and tool storage area installed in its place. My husband loves having all that space for his tools/spares/ etc. > > Exterior-wise we love the large roomy foredeck, with NO standing rigging. So easy to go forward, when necessary. Cockpit is large enough to host 6-8 people comfortably. The cockpit table is very sturdy, large and built like a tank. Don’t know how we ever lived without the walk-thru transom. Our 40/40 has a custom arch added on, and so we can lift our dinghy
out of the water and cruise with it on its davits. Getting into and out of the dinghy is so much easier with the walkthru transom.> > One of our initial concerns of couse was how well Eos would sail. Our Cal35 pointed upwind quite well, and so we were thrilled to learn Eos could point just as well!! Downwind she flies. Being a much beamier and heavier boat, her stability thru the water is remarkable to us. Working with the sails is very easy because everything is lead back to the cockpit. The camberspar was removed on our boat and replaced with a roller furling jib. We can still sheet the jib thru blocks lead back to the cockpit’s s/tailing winches and tighten up the jib when needed, but most of the time we allow the self-tacking feature to take charge. It’s great to have these options. We honestly can’t find one thing to complain about in the 40/40!> > We have a FlexOFold 3 bladed prop and can
motor at 6.5-7 kts easily.> > We spent the first two weeks of October bringing Eos from Santa Barbara to Oceanside CA. Spent time in the Channel Islands and then down thru Catalina Island. Not one complaint arose regarding the boat ~ our only disappointment was we had very few windy days to enjoy her true sailing abilities!! > > Hope this helps your decision making process. You can contact me personally if you would like any other specific information.> Debbie Mills> s/v Eos > > ps…anybody in the market for a camberspar!! ???..taking up lots of space in our garage! > > > > > ----- Original Message ----> From: rbrink239 <rbrink239@. …>> To: freedomyachts2003@ yahoogroups. com> Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2006 6:43:42 AM> Subject:
[freedomyachts2003] Freedom40/40 2001> > I" looking for any informatiom that I can get on this model boat pros > or cons. I am not at all familure with Freedom noats and am thinking > about buying 1.>
Posted by Thomas Wales (twales@…>)
There are ways to manage the camber spar without removing it. I took the
advice of someone on this list (thank you) and installed an 18" piece of
fuel line around the forestay under the lowest hank. This keeps the jib
off the deck. After furling the jib, I tie off the end to the port side
toerail too keep it out of the way during anchoring or docking. I find the
camberspar to be more useful overall than detrimental. Why use a whisker
pole when the jib has the camberspar built in. It’s why the boats are
called “Freedom”.
TW
F32 #20
Anoush Koon
Pemaquid, ME
At 09:02 AM 11/6/2006 -0800, you wrote:
The prior owner of our boat said it only took getting bludgeoned a couple
of times with the camber spar, when attempting to anchor in 30 kt winds,
to appreciate the safety of a roller furling jib. We love having the
foredeck clear. Got a whisker pole which we can use to pole out the jib
if needed. The previous owner was also a racer at heart, and he didn’t
seem to feel the integrity of the sail plan was compromised by getting rid
of the camber spar.Debbie Mills
s/v Eos----- Original Message ----
From: rbrink239 <rbrink239@…>
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 6, 2006 6:59:58 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Freedom40/40 2001Thanks ever so much for the info. Is there any other reason to get
rid of the camber spar than to clear the fore deck.
Richard— In mailto:freedomyachts2003%40yahoogroups.comfreedomyachts2003@
yahoogroups. com, buzz mills <buzndeb@… >
wrote:We just bought a 1996 40/40 in August and WE LOVE IT!!! Like
you, we were totally unfamiliar with the Freedoms until we stumbled
across the one we purchased. Our previous boat was a 1980 Cal 35.This boat had everything we wanted in a cruising capacity. It has
a very roomy and luxurious interior. The cherry woodwork is
incredible. There’s tons of storage…TONS! The separate large
shower is one of our favorite features - we didn’t have a shower on
our Cal35, so to speak…it was always cockpit solar showers! The
aft stateroom is very comfortable. The bed is athwartship, but it
hasn’t bothered us in the least. Having a queen size bed, using
normal sized sheets is great. The salon is large and comfortable,
and our nav station is well laid out.Tankage is good on our boat. Fuel is around 80 (with an added day
tank). The forward holding tank was removed and another water tank
installed, so we have approx 140 gal. water capacity. Aft holding
tank is approx 40 gal. The toilet in the forward head was removed
and a work bench and tool storage area installed in its place. My
husband loves having all that space for his tools/spares/ etc.Exterior-wise we love the large roomy foredeck, with NO standing
rigging. So easy to go forward, when necessary. Cockpit is large
enough to host 6-8 people comfortably. The cockpit table is very
sturdy, large and built like a tank. Don’t know how we ever lived
without the walk-thru transom. Our 40/40 has a custom arch added on,
and so we can lift our dinghy out of the water and cruise with it on
its davits. Getting into and out of the dinghy is so much easier
with the walkthru transom.One of our initial concerns of couse was how well Eos would sail.
Our Cal35 pointed upwind quite well, and so we were thrilled to learn
Eos could point just as well!! Downwind she flies. Being a much
beamier and heavier boat, her stability thru the water is remarkable
to us. Working with the sails is very easy because everything is
lead back to the cockpit. The camberspar was removed on our boat and
replaced with a roller furling jib. We can still sheet the jib thru
blocks lead back to the cockpit’s s/tailing winches and tighten up
the jib when needed, but most of the time we allow the self-tacking
feature to take charge. It’s great to have these options. We
honestly can’t find one thing to complain about in the 40/40!We have a FlexOFold 3 bladed prop and can motor at 6.5-7 kts easily.
We spent the first two weeks of October bringing Eos from Santa
Barbara to Oceanside CA. Spent time in the Channel Islands and then
down thru Catalina Island. Not one complaint arose regarding the
boat ~ our only disappointment was we had very few windy days to
enjoy her true sailing abilities!!Hope this helps your decision making process. You can contact me
personally if you would like any other specific information.
Debbie Mills
s/v Eosps…anybody in the market for a camberspar!! ???..taking up
lots of space in our garage!----- Original Message ----
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