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Posted by rocclear (aronella@…>)

I recently rebedded leaking port lights on my Freedom 35. The plywood
panels had rotted, and are being replaced. What adhesive can I use to
reattatch the vinyl material to the 1/8" wood?
thanks,
Lou Spitz
F35 # 23

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Posted by michel.capel (michel.capel@…>)

Are you sure you really want to re-use the plywood and vinyl? The foam
backing is probably crumbled away or going to be soon. If you glue the
vinyl to plywood without foam backing, it will be very hard to get a
smooth surface. I threw everything out and replaced plywood and vinyl
with sheets of 4 mm foamed PVC. Does not rot, bends like plywood, not
expensive, soft matte finish. If you want to keep the plywood/vinyl
situation anyway, I would use a sprayable contact glue suitable for
foam. Upholsterers (cars and furniture) use it.

Good luck,

Michel

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “rocclear” <aronella@…>
wrote:

I recently rebedded leaking port lights on my Freedom 35. The
plywood
panels had rotted, and are being replaced. What adhesive can I use
to
reattatch the vinyl material to the 1/8" wood?
thanks,
Lou Spitz
F35 # 23

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Posted by Bob Weeks (rweeks6508@…>)



So you just used the foamed PVC as the
total replacement, no vinyl cover etc.? Since its only 8’ long where did
you butt up the halves in the middle?

Bob





From:
FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of michel.capel
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007
3:31 AM
To:
FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re:
headliner adhesive




Are you sure you really want to re-use the plywood and
vinyl? The foam
backing is probably crumbled away or going to be soon. If you glue the
vinyl to plywood without foam backing, it will be very hard to get a
smooth surface. I threw everything out and replaced plywood and vinyl
with sheets of 4 mm foamed PVC. Does not rot, bends like plywood, not
expensive, soft matte finish. If you want to keep the plywood/vinyl
situation anyway, I would use a sprayable contact glue suitable for
foam. Upholsterers (cars and furniture) use it.

Good luck,

Michel

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com,
“rocclear” <aronella@…>
wrote:

I recently rebedded leaking port lights on my Freedom 35. The
plywood
panels had rotted, and are being replaced. What adhesive can I use
to
reattatch the vinyl material to the 1/8" wood?
thanks,
Lou Spitz
F35 # 23


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Posted by louis spitz (aronella@…>)

Thanks for the tip, Michael. I will try the adhesive to vinyl for this season, or until I need more. Then I will investigate the foam PVC.
Where did you get it?
Thanks,
Lou

----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Weeks
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 6:51 AM
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: headliner adhesive




So you just used the foamed PVC as the total replacement, no vinyl cover etc.? Since its only 8’ long where did you butt up the halves in the middle?

Bob





From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of michel.capelSent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 3:31 AMTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comSubject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: headliner adhesive




Are you sure you really want to re-use the plywood and vinyl? The foam backing is probably crumbled away or going to be soon. If you glue the vinyl to plywood without foam backing, it will be very hard to get a smooth surface. I threw everything out and replaced plywood and vinyl with sheets of 4 mm foamed PVC. Does not rot, bends like plywood, not expensive, soft matte finish. If you want to keep the plywood/vinyl situation anyway, I would use a sprayable contact glue suitable for foam. Upholsterers (cars and furniture) use it.Good luck, Michel— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “rocclear” <aronella@…> wrote:>> I recently rebedded leaking port lights on my Freedom 35. The plywood > panels had rotted, and are being replaced. What adhesive can I use to > reattatch the vinyl material to the 1/8" wood?> thanks,> Lou Spitz> F35 # 23>

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Posted by John Carles (johncarles@…>)
Where did you buy the PVC?Thanks"michel.capel" <michel.capel@…> wrote: Are you sure you really want to re-use the plywood and vinyl? The foam backing is probably crumbled away or going to be soon. If you glue the vinyl to plywood without foam backing, it will be very hard to get a smooth surface. I threw everything out and replaced plywood and vinyl with sheets of 4 mm foamed PVC. Does not rot, bends like plywood, not expensive, soft matte finish. If you want to keep the plywood/vinyl
situation anyway, I would use a sprayable contact glue suitable for foam. Upholsterers (cars and furniture) use it. Good luck, Michel — In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “rocclear” <aronella@…> wrote: > > I recently rebedded leaking port lights on my Freedom 35. The plywood > panels had rotted, and are being replaced. What adhesive can I use to > reattatch the vinyl material to the 1/8" wood? > thanks, > Lou Spitz > F35 # 23 >

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Posted by michel.capel (michel.capel@…>)

The surface of the foamed PVC looks very good; needs no further
covering, unless you want the soft feel of the vinyl. The sheets are
3 meters x 2 meters, so there are no butts. Just the teak battens
that were there already. I varnished them first.

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “Bob Weeks”
<rweeks6508@…> wrote:

So you just used the foamed PVC as the total replacement, no vinyl
cover
etc.? Since its only 8’ long where did you butt up the halves in
the
middle?

Bob

From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
michel.capel
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 3:31 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: headliner adhesive

Are you sure you really want to re-use the plywood and vinyl? The
foam
backing is probably crumbled away or going to be soon. If you glue
the
vinyl to plywood without foam backing, it will be very hard to get
a
smooth surface. I threw everything out and replaced plywood and
vinyl
with sheets of 4 mm foamed PVC. Does not rot, bends like plywood,
not
expensive, soft matte finish. If you want to keep the
plywood/vinyl
situation anyway, I would use a sprayable contact glue suitable
for
foam. Upholsterers (cars and furniture) use it.

Good luck,

Michel

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@ <mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%
40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, “rocclear” <aronella@>
wrote:

I recently rebedded leaking port lights on my Freedom 35. The
plywood
panels had rotted, and are being replaced. What adhesive can I
use
to
reattatch the vinyl material to the 1/8" wood?
thanks,
Lou Spitz
F35 # 23

7

Posted by michel.capel (michel.capel@…>)

Foamed PVC is used is the printing business to print large
billboards on. The thicker sizes are used in boatbuilding as a core
material in stead of balsa. It’s also used for interior building,
trade show stands and displays etc. A brandname used in the UK is
Palight. I don’t know an US brandname, but you should be able to
find it.


— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, louis spitz
<aronella@…> wrote:

Thanks for the tip, Michael. I will try the adhesive to vinyl for
this season, or until I need more. Then I will investigate the foam
PVC.
Where did you get it?
Thanks,
Lou
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Weeks
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 6:51 AM
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: headliner adhesive

So you just used the foamed PVC as the total replacement, no
vinyl cover etc.? Since its only 8’ long where did you butt up the
halves in the middle?

Bob

From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of michel.capel
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 3:31 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: headliner adhesive

Are you sure you really want to re-use the plywood and vinyl?
The foam
backing is probably crumbled away or going to be soon. If you
glue the
vinyl to plywood without foam backing, it will be very hard to
get a
smooth surface. I threw everything out and replaced plywood and
vinyl
with sheets of 4 mm foamed PVC. Does not rot, bends like
plywood, not
expensive, soft matte finish. If you want to keep the
plywood/vinyl
situation anyway, I would use a sprayable contact glue suitable
for
foam. Upholsterers (cars and furniture) use it.

Good luck,

Michel

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “rocclear”
<aronella@>
wrote:

I recently rebedded leaking port lights on my Freedom 35. The
plywood
panels had rotted, and are being replaced. What adhesive can I
use
to
reattatch the vinyl material to the 1/8" wood?
thanks,
Lou Spitz
F35 # 23

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Posted by crwindy@…> (crwindy@…>)

Dumb question:
Does this stuff float?? (proably). Could one cut this to shape to replace the
floor of an inflatable boat if you get a thich enough piece?? Have inflatable
floor that leaks. I already replaced it, but looking for alternatives for next
time.
craig
---- “michel.capel” <michel.capel@…> wrote:

Foamed PVC is used is the printing business to print large
billboards on. The thicker sizes are used in boatbuilding as a core
material in stead of balsa. It’s also used for interior building,
trade show stands and displays etc. A brandname used in the UK is
Palight. I don’t know an US brandname, but you should be able to
find it.

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, louis spitz
<aronella@…> wrote:

Thanks for the tip, Michael. I will try the adhesive to vinyl for
this season, or until I need more. Then I will investigate the foam
PVC.
Where did you get it?
Thanks,
Lou
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Weeks
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 6:51 AM
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: headliner adhesive

So you just used the foamed PVC as the total replacement, no
vinyl cover etc.? Since its only 8’ long where did you butt up the
halves in the middle?

Bob

From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of michel.capel
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 3:31 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: headliner adhesive

Are you sure you really want to re-use the plywood and vinyl?
The foam
backing is probably crumbled away or going to be soon. If you
glue the
vinyl to plywood without foam backing, it will be very hard to
get a
smooth surface. I threw everything out and replaced plywood and
vinyl
with sheets of 4 mm foamed PVC. Does not rot, bends like
plywood, not
expensive, soft matte finish. If you want to keep the
plywood/vinyl
situation anyway, I would use a sprayable contact glue suitable
for
foam. Upholsterers (cars and furniture) use it.

Good luck,

Michel

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “rocclear”
<aronella@>
wrote:

I recently rebedded leaking port lights on my Freedom 35. The
plywood
panels had rotted, and are being replaced. What adhesive can I
use
to
reattatch the vinyl material to the 1/8" wood?
thanks,
Lou Spitz
F35 # 23

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Posted by barbara.wall (Joseph.Wall@…>)

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, <crwindy@…> wrote:

A brand name for this material in the USA is Sintra. I just bought
three 4’x8’ sheets for $42 a piece.


Dumb question:
Does this stuff float?? (proably). Could one cut this to shape to
replace the floor of an inflatable boat if you get a thich enough
piece?? Have inflatable floor that leaks. I already replaced it, but
looking for alternatives for next time.
craig
---- “michel.capel” <michel.capel@…> wrote:

Foamed PVC is used is the printing business to print large
billboards on. The thicker sizes are used in boatbuilding as a
core
material in stead of balsa. It’s also used for interior building,
trade show stands and displays etc. A brandname used in the UK is
Palight. I don’t know an US brandname, but you should be able to
find it.

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, louis spitz
<aronella@> wrote:

Thanks for the tip, Michael. I will try the adhesive to vinyl
for
this season, or until I need more. Then I will investigate the
foam
PVC.
Where did you get it?
Thanks,
Lou
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Weeks
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 6:51 AM
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: headliner adhesive

So you just used the foamed PVC as the total replacement, no
vinyl cover etc.? Since its only 8’ long where did you butt up
the
halves in the middle?

Bob

From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
michel.capel
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 3:31 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: headliner adhesive

Are you sure you really want to re-use the plywood and vinyl?
The foam
backing is probably crumbled away or going to be soon. If you
glue the
vinyl to plywood without foam backing, it will be very hard
to
get a
smooth surface. I threw everything out and replaced plywood
and
vinyl
with sheets of 4 mm foamed PVC. Does not rot, bends like
plywood, not
expensive, soft matte finish. If you want to keep the
plywood/vinyl
situation anyway, I would use a sprayable contact glue
suitable
for
foam. Upholsterers (cars and furniture) use it.

Good luck,

Michel

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “rocclear”
<aronella@>
wrote:

I recently rebedded leaking port lights on my Freedom 35.
The
plywood
panels had rotted, and are being replaced. What adhesive
can I
use
to
reattatch the vinyl material to the 1/8" wood?
thanks,
Lou Spitz
F35 # 23

10

Posted by Weaver Roger (rogerweav@…>)

Barb, Would be kind enough to share were you purchase this Sintra product.
Maybe Home Depot or Lowe’s?

Roger





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Posted by barbara.wall (Joseph.Wall@…>)

Roger,

Sure can for whatever help it may be. I bought the Sintra at a
commercial Graphics Arts supply shop. They took three days to obtain
what I wanted from their distributor. Don’t think a retail outlet
such as Lowe’s or Home Depot would be likely to carry such a
specialty item.

Joe Wall

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, Weaver Roger
<rogerweav@…> wrote:

Barb, Would be kind enough to share were you purchase this Sintra
product.
Maybe Home Depot or Lowe’s?

Roger

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Posted by Weaver Roger (rogerweav@…>)

Barb, Would be kind enough to share were you purchase





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