Posted by fgljff (fgljff@…>)
The locals say that I don’t need a crane to launch my Freedom 25. According to
them, the
launch ramp is steep enough to back the cradle trailer down and let the boat
float off. Has
anyone ever launched a fixed keel boat like an F25 like this before? Should I
try it?
Posted by markkelly@… (markkelly@…)
I wouldn’t; you’ll be able to do it once, but getting the trailer back might be another story; maybe the ‘locals’ just want a good show…
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Subject: [freedomyachts2003] launching F25 with cradle trailer on ramp?
The locals say that I don’t need a crane to launch my Freedom 25. According to them, the
launch ramp is steep enough to back the cradle trailer down and let the boat float off. Has
anyone ever launched a fixed keel boat like an F25 like this before? Should I try it?
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Posted by fgljff (fgljff@…>)
Actually, I only need to launch. The boat will go on a mooring till fall when
the crane will
take it out.
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I wouldn’t; you’ll be able to do it once, but getting the trailer back might
be another
story; maybe the ‘locals’ just want a good show…-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Fri, 18 May 2007 10:14 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] launching F25 with cradle trailer on ramp?The locals say that I don’t need a crane to launch my Freedom 25. According to
them,
the
launch ramp is steep enough to back the cradle trailer down and let the boat
float off.
Has
anyone ever launched a fixed keel boat like an F25 like this before? Should I
try it?
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Posted by Herman and Gail Schiller (hschiller2@…>)
J-24s usually launch from a crane, and they weigh 100 lbs. less, and
draw about 6" less than the F-25 Herm
At 10:14 AM 5/18/2007, you wrote:
The locals say that I don’t need a crane to launch my Freedom 25.
According to them, the
launch ramp is steep enough to back the cradle trailer down and let
the boat float off. Has
anyone ever launched a fixed keel boat like an F25 like this before?
Should I try it?
Posted by Herman and Gail Schiller (hschiller2@…>)
That’s 1000 lbs. less.
At 12:02 PM 5/18/2007, Herman and Gail Schiller wrote:
J-24s usually launch from a crane, and they weigh 100 lbs. less, and
draw about 6" less than the F-25 HermAt 10:14 AM 5/18/2007, you wrote:
The locals say that I don’t need a crane to launch my Freedom 25.
According to them, the
launch ramp is steep enough to back the cradle trailer down and let
the boat float off. Has
anyone ever launched a fixed keel boat like an F25 like this before?
Should I try it?
Posted by Payne, Doug (doug.payne@…>)
A keel boat under about 30 feet can be
launched and retrieved with a “launch strap” arrangement. A 5/8 to ¾
inch line or suitable strap with enough capacity to handle the weight of the
trailer or boat. We launched our Columbia
22 in this manner which has a deep fin keel. You block the wheels of the
trailer at waters edge, detach the trailer from the tow vehicle, connect about
a 50 foot line to trailer and truck, pull the slack out, pull the chocks, and
back the trailer as deep as it needs to go to float off the boat. No big deal. The
boat can be retrieved in the same manner. I have launched my Mull
28 that way a couple times and I have seen 30 footers done that way.
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Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 9:14 AM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003]
launching F25 with cradle trailer on ramp?
The locals say that I don’t need a crane to launch my
Freedom 25. According to them, the
launch ramp is steep enough to back the cradle trailer down and let the boat
float off. Has
anyone ever launched a fixed keel boat like an F25 like this before? Should I
try it?
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Posted by Charlie L. (clivaday@…>)
I would not attempt to ramp-launch my F25.
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, markkelly@… wrote:
I wouldn’t; you’ll be able to do it once, but getting the trailer
back might be another story; maybe the ‘locals’ just want a good
show…-----Original Message-----
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To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 18 May 2007 10:14 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] launching F25 with cradle trailer on
ramp?The locals say that I don’t need a crane to launch my Freedom 25.
According to them, the
launch ramp is steep enough to back the cradle trailer down and let
the boat float off. Has
anyone ever launched a fixed keel boat like an F25 like this
before? Should I try it?
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Posted by fgljff (fgljff@…>)
Guys,
Thanks for the input. I splashed her in today. With a crane. I decided it was
the only safe
way to step the mast. Everything went ok. Although they were a bit flummoxed by
the lack
of stays when lifting the mast. Question: We just set the mast down through the
tube and
onto the spindle. But there’s a slight amount of play at the partners. Is this
normal. Also,
what keeps the mast on the spindle? It’s own weight?
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, Herman and Gail Schiller
<hschiller2@…>
wrote:
That’s 1000 lbs. less.
At 12:02 PM 5/18/2007, Herman and Gail Schiller wrote:
J-24s usually launch from a crane, and they weigh 100 lbs. less, and
draw about 6" less than the F-25 HermAt 10:14 AM 5/18/2007, you wrote:
The locals say that I don’t need a crane to launch my Freedom 25.
According to them, the
launch ramp is steep enough to back the cradle trailer down and let
the boat float off. Has
anyone ever launched a fixed keel boat like an F25 like this before?
Should I try it?
Posted by Herman and Gail Schiller (hschiller2@…>)
About the slight play at the partners: Did you accidentally omit the
Teflon bearing (1/16" thick) that resides in the shallow groove at
the top of the mast tube and bears against the stainless steel collar
on the mast at the partners? This Teflon bearing is the width of the
shallow, about 1-1/2" groove near the top of the mast-enclosing tube.
The mast will stay on the spindle because of its weight, AND all
those halyards and reefing lines that reeve through blocks at the
deck near the mast. Herm
At 08:29 PM 5/21/2007, fgljff wrote:
Guys,
Thanks for the input. I splashed her in today. With a crane. I
decided it was the only safe
way to step the mast. Everything went ok. Although they were a bit
flummoxed by the lack
of stays when lifting the mast. Question: We just set the mast down
through the tube and
onto the spindle. But there’s a slight amount of play at the
partners. Is this normal. Also,
what keeps the mast on the spindle? It’s own weight?— In
mailto:freedomyachts2003%40yahoogroups.comfreedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com,
Herman and Gail Schiller <hschiller2@…>
wrote:That’s 1000 lbs. less.
At 12:02 PM 5/18/2007, Herman and Gail Schiller wrote:
J-24s usually launch from a crane, and they weigh 100 lbs. less, and
draw about 6" less than the F-25 HermAt 10:14 AM 5/18/2007, you wrote:
The locals say that I don’t need a crane to launch my Freedom 25.
According to them, the
launch ramp is steep enough to back the cradle trailer down and let
the boat float off. Has
anyone ever launched a fixed keel boat like an F25 like this before?
Should I try it?
Posted by fgljff (fgljff@…>)
That’s what that was. A flat plastic ring broke as we were inserting the mast
through the
partners. I pulled it out. What can be done about that? Any way to put another
one in
without unstepping the mast?
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, Herman and Gail Schiller
<hschiller2@…>
wrote:
About the slight play at the partners: Did you accidentally omit the
Teflon bearing (1/16" thick) that resides in the shallow groove at
the top of the mast tube and bears against the stainless steel collar
on the mast at the partners? This Teflon bearing is the width of the
shallow, about 1-1/2" groove near the top of the mast-enclosing tube.
The mast will stay on the spindle because of its weight, AND all
those halyards and reefing lines that reeve through blocks at the
deck near the mast. HermAt 08:29 PM 5/21/2007, fgljff wrote:
Guys,
Thanks for the input. I splashed her in today. With a crane. I
decided it was the only safe
way to step the mast. Everything went ok. Although they were a bit
flummoxed by the lack
of stays when lifting the mast. Question: We just set the mast down
through the tube and
onto the spindle. But there’s a slight amount of play at the
partners. Is this normal. Also,
what keeps the mast on the spindle? It’s own weight?— In
<mailto:freedomyachts2003%
40yahoogroups.com>freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com,
Herman and Gail Schiller <hschiller2@>
wrote:That’s 1000 lbs. less.
At 12:02 PM 5/18/2007, Herman and Gail Schiller wrote:
J-24s usually launch from a crane, and they weigh 100 lbs. less, and
draw about 6" less than the F-25 HermAt 10:14 AM 5/18/2007, you wrote:
The locals say that I don’t need a crane to launch my Freedom 25.
According to them, the
launch ramp is steep enough to back the cradle trailer down and let
the boat float off. Has
anyone ever launched a fixed keel boat like an F25 like this before?
Should I try it?
Posted by Herman and Gail Schiller (hschiller2@…>)
I don’t think you can properly access this without withdrawing the
mast some considerable way. BTW: if you yank the mast again, consider
using a 6" Fernco fitting as your mast boot/flashing. These are
available at plumbing supply stores. You want the one that’s intended
to mate 6" copper/plastic to 6" clay pipe. It’s a bell shape ideal
for the F-25 mast. Herm
At 04:10 AM 5/22/2007, fgljff wrote:
That’s what that was. A flat plastic ring broke as we were inserting
the mast through the
partners. I pulled it out. What can be done about that? Any way to
put another one in
without unstepping the mast?— In
mailto:freedomyachts2003%40yahoogroups.comfreedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com,
Herman and Gail Schiller <hschiller2@…>
wrote:About the slight play at the partners: Did you accidentally omit the
Teflon bearing (1/16" thick) that resides in the shallow groove at
the top of the mast tube and bears against the stainless steel collar
on the mast at the partners? This Teflon bearing is the width of the
shallow, about 1-1/2" groove near the top of the mast-enclosing tube.
The mast will stay on the spindle because of its weight, AND all
those halyards and reefing lines that reeve through blocks at the
deck near the mast. HermAt 08:29 PM 5/21/2007, fgljff wrote:
Guys,
Thanks for the input. I splashed her in today. With a crane. I
decided it was the only safe
way to step the mast. Everything went ok. Although they were a bit
flummoxed by the lack
of stays when lifting the mast. Question: We just set the mast down
through the tube and
onto the spindle. But there’s a slight amount of play at the
partners. Is this normal. Also,
what keeps the mast on the spindle? It’s own weight?— In
<mailto:freedomyachts2003%
40yahoogroups.com>mailto:freedomyachts2003%40yahoogroups.comfreedomyachts2003
@yahoogroups.com,Herman and Gail Schiller <hschiller2@>
wrote:That’s 1000 lbs. less.
At 12:02 PM 5/18/2007, Herman and Gail Schiller wrote:
J-24s usually launch from a crane, and they weigh 100 lbs. less, and
draw about 6" less than the F-25 HermAt 10:14 AM 5/18/2007, you wrote:
The locals say that I don’t need a crane to launch my Freedom 25.
According to them, the
launch ramp is steep enough to back the cradle trailer down and let
the boat float off. Has
anyone ever launched a fixed keel boat like an F25 like this before?
Should I try it?
Posted by fgljff (fgljff@…>)
Herm,
I don’t think it’s in the cards to withdraw the mast again this season. Can I
sail the boat
anyway without that teflon strip? Otherwise, is there a way to address the
problem
temporarily?
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, Herman and Gail Schiller
<hschiller2@…>
wrote:
I don’t think you can properly access this without withdrawing the
mast some considerable way. BTW: if you yank the mast again, consider
using a 6" Fernco fitting as your mast boot/flashing. These are
available at plumbing supply stores. You want the one that’s intended
to mate 6" copper/plastic to 6" clay pipe. It’s a bell shape ideal
for the F-25 mast. HermAt 04:10 AM 5/22/2007, fgljff wrote:
That’s what that was. A flat plastic ring broke as we were inserting
the mast through the
partners. I pulled it out. What can be done about that? Any way to
put another one in
without unstepping the mast?— In
<mailto:freedomyachts2003%
40yahoogroups.com>freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com,
Herman and Gail Schiller <hschiller2@>
wrote:About the slight play at the partners: Did you accidentally omit the
Teflon bearing (1/16" thick) that resides in the shallow groove at
the top of the mast tube and bears against the stainless steel collar
on the mast at the partners? This Teflon bearing is the width of the
shallow, about 1-1/2" groove near the top of the mast-enclosing tube.
The mast will stay on the spindle because of its weight, AND all
those halyards and reefing lines that reeve through blocks at the
deck near the mast. HermAt 08:29 PM 5/21/2007, fgljff wrote:
Guys,
Thanks for the input. I splashed her in today. With a crane. I
decided it was the only safe
way to step the mast. Everything went ok. Although they were a bit
flummoxed by the lack
of stays when lifting the mast. Question: We just set the mast down
through the tube and
onto the spindle. But there’s a slight amount of play at the
partners. Is this normal. Also,
what keeps the mast on the spindle? It’s own weight?— In
<mailto:freedomyachts2003%
40yahoogroups.com><mailto:freedomyachts2003%
40yahoogroups.com>freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com,Herman and Gail Schiller <hschiller2@>
wrote:That’s 1000 lbs. less.
At 12:02 PM 5/18/2007, Herman and Gail Schiller wrote:
J-24s usually launch from a crane, and they weigh 100 lbs. less, and
draw about 6" less than the F-25 HermAt 10:14 AM 5/18/2007, you wrote:
The locals say that I don’t need a crane to launch my Freedom 25.
According to them, the
launch ramp is steep enough to back the cradle trailer down and let
the boat float off. Has
anyone ever launched a fixed keel boat like an F25 like this
before?
Should I try it?