Posted by rocclear (aronella@…>)
Did anyone change the lazy jack system to make it detachable?
Does the boom need the support of the lazy-jacks when the sail is
lowered?
It’s a real pain to put the sail cover on, with the lazy jack ‘cut-
outs’.
I was also thinking of the ‘mack-pack’ or ‘stack pack’ system.
Thoughts and experiences most needed and welcome.
Thanks,
Lou
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Posted by fredmolden@…> (fredmolden@…>)
Hello Lou,
I have just had the North Sails version of a stack pack installed on my F35.
Works great. Lazy jack system is modified a bit and bolt rope on main foot
is removed but essentially the same as before. Just drop the main and zip
it up. I also do not need to tighten the reef lines when dropping the sail
so raising the main is easier.
I use the rigid vang to support the boom. In fact I adjusted it to remove
the boom load on the main so I could get better shape in light winds.
Fred
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From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rocclear
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 10:32 AM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] lazy jacks on Freedom 35- reconfigure?
Did anyone change the lazy jack system to make it detachable?
Does the boom need the support of the lazy-jacks when the sail is
lowered?
It’s a real pain to put the sail cover on, with the lazy jack ‘cut-
outs’.
I was also thinking of the ‘mack-pack’ or ‘stack pack’ system.
Thoughts and experiences most needed and welcome.
Thanks,
Lou
F35 ‘Ripple Effect’ #23
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Posted by andre laviolette (andrelaviolette@…>)
Lou, I am real happy with the Doyle Stack Pack. It has a membrane that some others do not that keeps the cover flat against the sail when up. The white cover lasted 5 years in the so Fla sun. It was white. A darker sunbella would last longer. Not cheap, the replacement cover only was 76 $ a foot.New instalation was more. Lazy jacks could hold the boom up but would need constant adjustements. I have a solid Garhauer vang. A great peice of equipment. Andre, " Scaramanga "rocclear <aronella@…> wrote: Did anyone change the lazy jack system to make it detachable?Does the boom need the support of the lazy-jacks when the sail is lowered?It’s a real pain to put the sail cover on, with the lazy jack ‘cut-outs’.I was also thinking of the ‘mack-pack’ or ‘stack pack’ system.Thoughts and experiences most needed and welcome.Thanks,LouF35 ‘Ripple Effect’ #23
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Posted by Thomas Wales (twales@…>)
Hi Lou,
One way to relieve pressure on the lazy jacks to to use your main
halyard as a topping life to hold up the boom after you have dropped the
sail. Putting the sailcover on with slack lazyjacks is much
easier. You’ll need to have something to hold up the boom. Either a rigid
vang, lazyjacks or a topping lift. The main halyard as topping lift is the
least expensive and it works for me.
Good luck.
TW F32 Anoush Koon
Pemaquid, ME
At 02:31 PM 6/4/2007 +0000, you wrote:
Did anyone change the lazy jack system to make it detachable?
Does the boom need the support of the lazy-jacks when the sail is
lowered?
It’s a real pain to put the sail cover on, with the lazy jack ‘cut-
outs’.
I was also thinking of the ‘mack-pack’ or ‘stack pack’ system.
Thoughts and experiences most needed and welcome.
Thanks,
Lou
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Posted by Jay T. Reed (reedjayt@…>)
Lou
When my wife and I bought our 35 three years ago, we had problems with the
top batten getting caught in the lazy jacks. I replaced the line on the
lazy jacks and made it long enough to loosen before I raised the main. This
made it much easier to raise the main, but the boom did sag down
significantly. This year I did a lot of work on the mast and boom,
including painting both. As a part of this project I replaced the spring in
the boomvang and put in a heaver spring. I also had all the bearings
replaced in the bat-cars. Since I needed to replace the main sail cover
anyway and since I hated wrestling with it, I decided to get the stackpack.
Saturday morning was our first opportunity to try the new stackpack. We
almost decided to hold off, since the wind was 15 to 18 knots. I decided we
would at least try to raise the main to see if there was a problem, since we
now have 4 sets of lazy jack lines instead of 2. My wife put the boat into
the wind. I threw one wrap of the main sheet around the winch and raised
the main by hand until the second batten cleared the lazy jack lines. Once
they were clear, I used the power winch to raise the main the rest of the
way. It went up so easily that we decided to have some fun sailing.
Dropping the main was great, since we no longer need to worry about sail
ties or reefing lines that fall down in the cockpit. When I got into the
dock, all I needed to do was zip up the stackpack.
If you are going with a stackpack I would make sure the boomvang supports
the boom for the most part. Mine still sags about an inch, but that seems
to be fine. Before I replaced the spring it would sag to the dodger. Mark
Edwards suggested raising the main by hand until the battens were clear. I
was unable to do that before I replaced the bearings in the bat cars.
Harken doesn’t recommend using lubrication, since the bearings can slide and
create a flat spot. That’s what had occurred with mine. I don’t know about
the mack-pack, but I expect the same issues would apply to both.
Hope this helps
Jay
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From: “rocclear” <aronella@…>
Reply-To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] lazy jacks on Freedom 35- reconfigure?
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 14:31:40 -0000Did anyone change the lazy jack system to make it detachable?
Does the boom need the support of the lazy-jacks when the sail is
lowered?
It’s a real pain to put the sail cover on, with the lazy jack ‘cut-
outs’.
I was also thinking of the ‘mack-pack’ or ‘stack pack’ system.
Thoughts and experiences most needed and welcome.
Thanks,
Lou
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Posted by Lorman, Alvin J. (ajlorman@…>)
If you don’t have a rigid vang, the lazy jacks are what hold up the boom. I have a rigid vang and so usually have little tension on the lazy jacks, thus making it much easier to put the sail cover on.
Al Lorman
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Did anyone change the lazy jack system to make it detachable?Does the boom need the support of the lazy-jacks when the sail is lowered?It’s a real pain to put the sail cover on, with the lazy jack ‘cut-outs’.I was also thinking of the ‘mack-pack’ or ‘stack pack’ system.Thoughts and experiences most needed and welcome.Thanks,LouF35 ‘Ripple Effect’ #23
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Posted by willie doyle (williedoylemom@…>)
Hi Lou, I would echo everything about vang and topping left that the others have said. We fasten the main halyard to the end of the boom and tighten it up. This keeps a load off the van and keeps the main from swinging across the dodger causing wear. We LOVE our Mackpack. Makes bringing down the sail so easy. My husband does need to go topside to help it into the sailcover but we leave zipping up for after docking. We’ve taken out the second reef point - less line to deal with. We cannot recommend the stackpack idea highly enough. Faith www.faithandrewsbedford.comThomas Wales <twales@…> wrote: Hi Lou,One way to relieve pressure on the lazy jacks to to use your main halyard as a topping life to hold up the boom after you have dropped the
sail. Putting the sailcover on with slack lazyjacks is much easier. You’ll need to have something to hold up the boom. Either a rigid vang, lazyjacks or a topping lift. The main halyard as topping lift is the least expensive and it works for me.Good luck.TW F32 Anoush KoonPemaquid, MEAt 02:31 PM 6/4/2007 +0000, you wrote:>Did anyone change the lazy jack system to make it detachable?>Does the boom need the support of the lazy-jacks when the sail is>lowered?>It’s a real pain to put the sail cover on, with the lazy jack ‘cut->outs’.>I was also thinking of the ‘mack-pack’ or ‘stack pack’ system.>Thoughts and experiences most needed and welcome.>Thanks,>Lou>F35 ‘Ripple Effect’ #23>>>>No virus found in this incoming message.>Checked by AVG Free Edition.>Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.7/830 - Release Date:
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Posted by louis spitz (aronella@…>)
Hi Faith,
Thanks for the respons.
Where do you attatch the halyard? Is the aluminum casting strong enough, or do you use the outhaul on the boom, or another place.
What brand of stack pack did you go with?
Thanks, Lou
----- Original Message -----
From: willie doyle
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] lazy jacks on Freedom 35- reconfigure?
Hi Lou, I would echo everything about vang and topping left that the others have said. We fasten the main halyard to the end of the boom and tighten it up. This keeps a load off the van and keeps the main from swinging across the dodger causing wear.
We LOVE our Mackpack. Makes bringing down the sail so easy. My husband does need to go topside to help it into the sailcover but we leave zipping up for after docking. We’ve taken out the second reef point - less line to deal with. We cannot recommend the stackpack idea highly enough.
Faith
www.faithandrewsbedford.comThomas Wales <twales@adelphia.net> wrote:
Hi Lou,One way to relieve pressure on the lazy jacks to to use your main halyard as a topping life to hold up the boom after you have dropped the sail. Putting the sailcover on with slack lazyjacks is much easier. You’ll need to have something to hold up the boom. Either a rigid vang, lazyjacks or a topping lift. The main halyard as topping lift is the least expensive and it works for me.Good luck.TW F32 Anoush KoonPemaquid, MEAt 02:31 PM 6/4/2007 +0000, you wrote:>Did anyone change the lazy jack system to make it detachable?>Does the boom need the support of the lazy-jacks when the sail is>lowered?>It’s a real pain to put the sail cover on, with the lazy jack ‘cut->outs’.>I was also thinking of the ‘mack-pack’ or ‘stack pack’ system.>Thoughts and experiences most needed and welcome.>Thanks,>Lou>F35 ‘Ripple Effect’ #23>>>>No virus found in this incoming message.>Checked by AVG Free Edition.>Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.7/830 - Release Date: 6/3/2007 >12:47 PMNo virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.7/830 - Release Date: 6/3/2007 12:47 PM
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Posted by Dave_Benjamin (dave_benjamin@…>)
Lou,
I’m not a big fan of the stack-pack and similar systems.
Buy yourself a rigid boom vang and have Garhauer make a collar to go
around your mast. At that point the lazy jacks aren’t needed to support
the boom. You could convert to retractible lazy jacks like ez-jax which
is a nice system.
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “rocclear” <aronella@…>
wrote:
Did anyone change the lazy jack system to make it detachable?
Does the boom need the support of the lazy-jacks when the sail is
lowered?
It’s a real pain to put the sail cover on, with the lazy jack ‘cut-
outs’.
I was also thinking of the ‘mack-pack’ or ‘stack pack’ system.
Thoughts and experiences most needed and welcome.
Thanks,
Lou
F35 ‘Ripple Effect’ #23
Posted by louis spitz (aronella@…>)
Dave,
Thanks for your reply.
I do have a solid vang. As my sailcover is shot (and constructed with the most awkward accomodation of openings and closures for the lazy jacks),
I thought to investigate several options: (1) a new sail cover without the lazyjack openings (2) stack pack , or (3)mack pack.
Where can I find out more about ez-jax?
Lou
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave_Benjamin
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 7:18 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: lazy jacks on Freedom 35- reconfigure?
Lou,I’m not a big fan of the stack-pack and similar systems.Buy yourself a rigid boom vang and have Garhauer make a collar to go around your mast. At that point the lazy jacks aren’t needed to support the boom. You could convert to retractible lazy jacks like ez-jax which is a nice system.— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “rocclear” <aronella@…> wrote:>> Did anyone change the lazy jack system to make it detachable?> Does the boom need the support of the lazy-jacks when the sail is > lowered?> It’s a real pain to put the sail cover on, with the lazy jack ‘cut-> outs’.> I was also thinking of the ‘mack-pack’ or ‘stack pack’ system.> Thoughts and experiences most needed and welcome.> Thanks,> Lou> F35 ‘Ripple Effect’ #23>
Posted by Thomas Wales (twales@…>)
Gentlemen,
The benefit I appreciate the most from my lazy-jacks is when I
need to drop that big main in a hurry in 20 kts of wind and have it mostly
contained on the boom. Having sailed for years without them, I wouldn’t do
without them. A properly designed sailcover should not be too difficult to
use with slackened lazy-jacks. Just my humble opinion.
TW F32 Anoush Koon.
At 08:14 AM 6/11/2007 -0400, you wrote:
Dave,
Thanks for your reply.
I do have a solid vang. As my sailcover is shot (and constructed with the
most awkward accomodation of openings and closures for the lazy jacks),
I thought to investigate several options: (1) a new sail cover without the
lazyjack openings (2) stack pack , or (3)mack pack.
Where can I find out more about ez-jax?
Lou----- Original Message -----
From: mailto:dave_benjamin@...Dave_Benjamin
To:
<mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 7:18 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: lazy jacks on Freedom 35- reconfigure?Lou,
I’m not a big fan of the stack-pack and similar systems.
Buy yourself a rigid boom vang and have Garhauer make a collar to go
around your mast. At that point the lazy jacks aren’t needed to support
the boom. You could convert to retractible lazy jacks like ez-jax which
is a nice system.— In
<mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com,
“rocclear” <aronella@…>
wrote:Did anyone change the lazy jack system to make it detachable?
Does the boom need the support of the lazy-jacks when the sail is
lowered?
It’s a real pain to put the sail cover on, with the lazy jack ‘cut-
outs’.
I was also thinking of the ‘mack-pack’ or ‘stack pack’ system.
Thoughts and experiences most needed and welcome.
Thanks,
Lou
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Posted by Dave_Benjamin (dave_benjamin@…>)
Here’s the website for EZ-JAX - http://www.ezjax.com/
A good canvas person could probably come up with a better designed
cover. I don’t like any of those cover systems that require
attachment to the sail but obviously a lot of people have them and
love them. Just personal preference on my part.
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, louis spitz <aronella@…>
wrote:
Dave,
Thanks for your reply.
I do have a solid vang. As my sailcover is shot (and constructed
with the most awkward accomodation of openings and closures for the
lazy jacks),
I thought to investigate several options: (1) a new sail cover
without the lazyjack openings (2) stack pack , or (3)mack pack.
Where can I find out more about ez-jax?
Lou----- Original Message -----
From: Dave_Benjamin
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 7:18 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: lazy jacks on Freedom 35-
reconfigure?Lou,
I’m not a big fan of the stack-pack and similar systems.
Buy yourself a rigid boom vang and have Garhauer make a collar to
go
around your mast. At that point the lazy jacks aren’t needed to
support
the boom. You could convert to retractible lazy jacks like ez-jax
which
is a nice system.— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “rocclear” <aronella@>
wrote:Did anyone change the lazy jack system to make it detachable?
Does the boom need the support of the lazy-jacks when the sail
is
lowered?
It’s a real pain to put the sail cover on, with the lazy
jack ‘cut-
outs’.
I was also thinking of the ‘mack-pack’ or ‘stack pack’ system.
Thoughts and experiences most needed and welcome.
Thanks,
Lou
F35 ‘Ripple Effect’ #23
Posted by Jay T. Reed (reedjayt@…>)
The stack pack doesn’t require any attachment to the sail. The sail is made
loose footed and the cover goes into the track on the boom. There are two
big advantages for a 35. First, since you don’t take the sail cover on and
off, there is less work and no storage issue for the cover. Second, when
you drop the main, you don’t need to jump up and tie the main with sail ties
or remove them when it’s time to raise the main. One other point. When I
drop the main the reefing lines don’t hit my wife in the head anymore.
That’s a good thing.
Jay
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From: “Dave_Benjamin” <dave_benjamin@…>
Reply-To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: lazy jacks on Freedom 35- reconfigure?
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:02:31 -0000Here’s the website for EZ-JAX - http://www.ezjax.com/
A good canvas person could probably come up with a better designed
cover. I don’t like any of those cover systems that require
attachment to the sail but obviously a lot of people have them and
love them. Just personal preference on my part.— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, louis spitz <aronella@…>
wrote:Dave,
Thanks for your reply.
I do have a solid vang. As my sailcover is shot (and constructed
with the most awkward accomodation of openings and closures for the
lazy jacks),
I thought to investigate several options: (1) a new sail cover
without the lazyjack openings (2) stack pack , or (3)mack pack.
Where can I find out more about ez-jax?
Lou----- Original Message -----
From: Dave_Benjamin
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 7:18 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: lazy jacks on Freedom 35-
reconfigure?Lou,
I’m not a big fan of the stack-pack and similar systems.
Buy yourself a rigid boom vang and have Garhauer make a collar to
go
around your mast. At that point the lazy jacks aren’t needed to
support
the boom. You could convert to retractible lazy jacks like ez-jax
which
is a nice system.— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “rocclear” <aronella@>
wrote:Did anyone change the lazy jack system to make it detachable?
Does the boom need the support of the lazy-jacks when the sail
is
lowered?
It’s a real pain to put the sail cover on, with the lazy
jack ‘cut-
outs’.
I was also thinking of the ‘mack-pack’ or ‘stack pack’ system.
Thoughts and experiences most needed and welcome.
Thanks,
Lou
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From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave_Benjamin
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 7:18
PM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re:
lazy jacks on Freedom 35- reconfigure?
Lou,
I’m not a big fan of the stack-pack and similar systems.
Buy yourself a rigid boom vang and have Garhauer make a collar to go
around your mast. At that point the lazy jacks aren’t needed to support
the boom. You could convert to retractible lazy jacks like ez-jax which
is a nice system.
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com,
“rocclear” <aronella@…>
wrote:
Did anyone change the lazy jack system to make it detachable?
Does the boom need the support of the lazy-jacks when the sail is
lowered?
It’s a real pain to put the sail cover on, with the lazy jack ‘cut-
outs’.
I was also thinking of the ‘mack-pack’ or ‘stack pack’ system.
Thoughts and experiences most needed and welcome.
Thanks,
Lou
F35 ‘Ripple Effect’ #23
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Posted by Alan Kusinitz (akusinitz@…>)
I’m very happy with my 2 mack packs (and
I have boom kickers in place of rigid vangs) on my 33.
One thing I’d recommend is don’t
attach the bottom two sets of twist locks to the mast like they normally do.
Just have the front made wrap around or use bungee cord. They its easier if you
want to lower it while sailing then securing the front part and you avoid extra
rivets in the mast or if you forget to undo the twist locks on certain points
of sail they can break from the tension. The upper hooks are not a problem.
Please consider joining/moving from this
group to Freedomownersgroup where we can prevent spam etc.
Alan
From:
freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of louis spitz
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 8:14
AM
To:
freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003]
Re: lazy jacks on Freedom 35- reconfigure?
Dave,
Thanks for your reply.
I do have a solid vang. As my sailcover is shot (and
constructed with the most awkward accomodation of openings and closures for the
lazy jacks),
I thought to investigate several options: (1) a new sail
cover without the lazyjack openings (2) stack pack , or (3)mack
pack.
Where can I find out more about ez-jax?
Lou
\
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave_Benjamin
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 10,
2007 7:18 PM
Subject:
[freedomyachts2003] Re: lazy jacks on Freedom 35- reconfigure?
\
Lou,
I’m not a big fan of the stack-pack and similar systems.
Buy yourself a rigid boom vang and have Garhauer make a collar to go
around your mast. At that point the lazy jacks aren’t needed to support
the boom. You could convert to retractible lazy jacks like ez-jax which
is a nice system.
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com,
“rocclear” <aronella@…>
wrote:
Did anyone change the lazy jack system to make it detachable?
Does the boom need the support of the lazy-jacks when the sail is
lowered?
It’s a real pain to put the sail cover on, with the lazy jack ‘cut-
outs’.
I was also thinking of the ‘mack-pack’ or ‘stack pack’ system.
Thoughts and experiences most needed and welcome.
Thanks,
Lou
F35 ‘Ripple Effect’ #23
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Posted by louis spitz (aronella@…>)
Alan, how do I join the Freedomownersgroup?
Louis
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Kusinitz
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 9:58 AM
Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] Re: lazy jacks on Freedom 35- reconfigure?
I’m very happy with my 2 mack packs (and I have boom kickers in place of rigid vangs) on my 33.
One thing I’d recommend is don’t attach the bottom two sets of twist locks to the mast like they normally do. Just have the front made wrap around or use bungee cord. They its easier if you want to lower it while sailing then securing the front part and you avoid extra rivets in the mast or if you forget to undo the twist locks on certain points of sail they can break from the tension. The upper hooks are not a problem.
Please consider joining/moving from this group to Freedomownersgroup where we can prevent spam etc.
Alan
From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of louis spitzSent: Monday, June 11, 2007 8:14 AMTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Re: lazy jacks on Freedom 35- reconfigure?
Dave,
Thanks for your reply.
I do have a solid vang. As my sailcover is shot (and constructed with the most awkward accomodation of openings and closures for the lazy jacks),
I thought to investigate several options: (1) a new sail cover without the lazyjack openings (2) stack pack , or (3)mack pack.
Where can I find out more about ez-jax?
Lou
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave_Benjamin
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 7:18 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: lazy jacks on Freedom 35- reconfigure?
Lou,I’m not a big fan of the stack-pack and similar systems.Buy yourself a rigid boom vang and have Garhauer make a collar to go around your mast. At that point the lazy jacks aren’t needed to support the boom. You could convert to retractible lazy jacks like ez-jax which is a nice system.— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “rocclear” <aronella@…> wrote:>> Did anyone change the lazy jack system to make it detachable?> Does the boom need the support of the lazy-jacks when the sail is > lowered?> It’s a real pain to put the sail cover on, with the lazy jack ‘cut-> outs’.> I was also thinking of the ‘mack-pack’ or ‘stack pack’ system.> Thoughts and experiences most needed and welcome.> Thanks,> Lou> F35 ‘Ripple Effect’ #23>
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Posted by Alan Kusinitz (akusinitz@…>)
Just click http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FreedomOwnersGroup/
and request to join. You’ll get a confirmation once one of the
moderators confirms you’re a valid person based on your message rather
then automated junk mail.
Alan
From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of louis spitz
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007
11:38 AM
To:
freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003]
Re: lazy jacks on Freedom 35- reconfigure?
Alan, how do I join the Freedomownersgroup?
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Louis
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----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Kusinitz
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June
13, 2007 9:58 AM
Subject: RE:
[freedomyachts2003] Re: lazy jacks on Freedom 35- reconfigure?
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Original Message -----
From: Dave_Benjamin
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 7:18 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: lazy jacks on Freedom 35-
reconfigure?
Lou,
I’m not a big fan of the stack-pack and similar systems.
Buy yourself a rigid boom vang and have Garhauer make a collar to go
around your mast. At that point the lazy jacks aren’t needed to support
the boom. You could convert to retractible lazy jacks like ez-jax which
is a nice system.
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com,
“rocclear” <aronella@…>
wrote:
Did anyone change the lazy jack system to make it detachable?
Does the boom need the support of the lazy-jacks when the sail is
lowered?
It’s a real pain to put the sail cover on, with the lazy jack ‘cut-
outs’.
I was also thinking of the ‘mack-pack’ or ‘stack pack’ system.
Thoughts and experiences most needed and welcome.
Thanks,
Lou
F35 ‘Ripple Effect’ #23
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