Posted by chris_lloydbostock (rossbakery@…>)
Anyone with thoughts on climbing Freedom unstayed masts?
Mine’s an F33 cat ketch with aluminium masts. I’ve got mast steps half
way up the mizzen (to the radar antenna) and nothing on the main.
I’m mostly single-handed and need to figure out the best way to get up
both masts solo.
Would appreciate your ideas on what gear works best.
Oh and even here downunder gravity still pulls towards the deck.
Cheers
Chris L-B
EmmaB
Tasmania
Posted by marno_ss (marno@…>)
I use an ATN Top Climber on my F39 (carbon masts), been to the top and
part way up quite a few times, I got it because I didn’t think my
wife would be able to winch me up.
I’m an Aussie too, although I am stuck in the UK at the moment,
gravity works the same way but the water goes the wrong way down the
drain.
Cya
Marno
www.yachtattitudes.com
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<rossbakery@…> wrote:
Anyone with thoughts on climbing Freedom unstayed masts?
Mine’s an F33 cat ketch with aluminium masts. I’ve got mast steps half
way up the mizzen (to the radar antenna) and nothing on the main.I’m mostly single-handed and need to figure out the best way to get up
both masts solo.Would appreciate your ideas on what gear works best.
Oh and even here downunder gravity still pulls towards the deck.
Cheers
Chris L-B
EmmaB
Tasmania
Posted by Al Lorman (ajl@…>)
I’ve
used an ATN as well (former F30). Not as easy as the ads say (at least
for me), but clearly the only way to get to the top alone. Also,
incredible feeling of safety.
Al
Lorman
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I use an ATN Top Climber on my F39 (carbon
masts), been to the top and
part way up quite a few times, I got it because I didn’t think my
wife would be able to winch me up.
I’m an Aussie too, although I am stuck in the UK at the moment,
gravity works the same way but the water goes the wrong way down the
drain.
Cya
Marno
www.yachtattitudes.com
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com,
“chris_lloydbostock”
<rossbakery@…> wrote:
Anyone with thoughts on climbing Freedom unstayed masts?
Mine’s an F33 cat ketch with aluminium masts. I’ve got mast steps half
way up the mizzen (to the radar antenna) and nothing on the main.I’m mostly single-handed and need to figure out the best way to get up
both masts solo.Would appreciate your ideas on what gear works best.
Oh and even here downunder gravity still pulls towards the deck.
Cheers
Chris L-B
EmmaB
Tasmania
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Posted by Alan Kusinitz (akusinitz@…>)
I have an ATN as well. It takes some learning to be able to do
it easily and maybe “easily” is too strong a term.
But I’m satisfied with it.
Alan
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Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 11:33 AM
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I’ve used an ATN as well (former F30). Not as easy
as the ads say (at least for me), but clearly the only way to get to the top
alone. Also, incredible feeling of safety.
Al Lorman
From:
FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of marno_ss
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 3:59 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Mast Climbing
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I use an ATN Top Climber on my F39 (carbon masts), been to the top and
part way up quite a few times, I got it because I didn’t think my
wife would be able to winch me up.
I’m an Aussie too, although I am stuck in the UK at the moment,
gravity works the same way but the water goes the wrong way down the
drain.
Cya
Marno
www.yachtattitudes.com
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com,
“chris_lloydbostock”
<rossbakery@…> wrote:
Anyone with thoughts on climbing Freedom unstayed masts?
Mine’s an F33 cat ketch with aluminium masts. I’ve got mast steps half
way up the mizzen (to the radar antenna) and nothing on the main.I’m mostly single-handed and need to figure out the best way to get up
both masts solo.Would appreciate your ideas on what gear works best.
Oh and even here downunder gravity still pulls towards the deck.
Cheers
Chris L-B
EmmaB
Tasmania
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Posted by David Holt (dholt7@…>)
Another F33 owner in Australia looking to climb masts. Must be that
time of the year down under. I own Night Wing which you can see in the
photo section. A beautiful restoration.
I have checked out many options and am looking at the Multilift 1001.
Very, very expensive but I think my life and safety is worth it. The
advantage with this system is that it is a simple pulley system up and
down and no major body effort required.
It also doubles as a lifting system for my Hobie Adventure Island which
is a fabulous trimaran/kayak but weighs about 65 kgs. I can attach the
multilift to the wish bone and up she comes.
Also a back up for off shore safety. Very easy to lift an injured
person out of the water via the davits on the stern.
Aussie Freedoms. If you are ever sailing to the Whitsundays call in at
Tin Can Bay on your way up. 50 km of protected pristine sailing with no
over crowding at all.
David
Posted by rossbakery (rossbakery@…>)
Hello
David,
Yes I looked enviously at Night Wing a
couple of years ago when I was up at Mooloolaba. I
think you’d not long bought her.
I bought my Emma B in Mooloolaba
last year and sailed down to Tassie across Bass Strait. Strong North Easterlies put us on a fantastic
beam reach most of the way and yes we beat 10kts on the GPS many times. These
boats go!
Can you give me more info on the Multilift.
Is there an Australian distributor?
Regards,
Chris L-B
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From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of David Holt
Sent: Friday, 19 September 2008 10:53 AM
To:
FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Mast
Climbing
Another F33 owner in Australia
looking to climb masts. Must be that
time of the year down under. I own Night Wing which you can see in the
photo section. A beautiful restoration.
I have checked out many options and am looking at the Multilift 1001.
Very, very expensive but I think my life and safety is worth it. The
advantage with this system is that it is a simple pulley system up and
down and no major body effort required.
It also doubles as a lifting system for my Hobie
Adventure Island
which
is a fabulous trimaran/kayak but weighs about 65 kgs. I can attach the
multilift to the wish bone and up she comes.
Also a back up for off shore safety. Very easy to lift an injured
person out of the water via the davits on the stern.
Aussie Freedoms. If you are ever sailing to the Whitsundays call in at
Tin Can
Bay on your way up. 50 km of
protected pristine sailing with no
over crowding at all.
David
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Posted by michel.capel (michel.capel@…>)
Hi Chris,
I went up my 50’ mast singlehanded last month. I bought climbing gear
(two ascenders) and some carbiners and stuff. Took some effort, But I
got there. I used a slightly different line setup than the ATN
topclimber. I did not use a static line, but used the purchase of the
halyard. Then it takes half the power to lift my 100 kgs. The
topclimber is quite expensive if you already have a bosun’s chair. I
also use a chest harness (lifejacket) to sit more comfortable. On the
way down, my halyard got snagged under a deck cleat. My neighbour was
around, and he had to help me. This is something to watch out for and
speaks in favour of the static line method. Halfway up the mast I
suddenly got scared… I was only hanging from one shackle… I
swallowed and got up to the top without further thoughts because I
knew all masthead fittings had been renewed two years ago. But next
time, I’ll go up with somebody on deck below to handle a safety line.
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “chris_lloydbostock”
<rossbakery@…> wrote:
Anyone with thoughts on climbing Freedom unstayed masts?
Mine’s an F33 cat ketch with aluminium masts. I’ve got mast steps half
way up the mizzen (to the radar antenna) and nothing on the main.I’m mostly single-handed and need to figure out the best way to get up
both masts solo.Would appreciate your ideas on what gear works best.
Oh and even here downunder gravity still pulls towards the deck.
Cheers
Chris L-B
EmmaB
Tasmania
Posted by George Huffman (thatboatguy2@…>)
We have a set up I built with climbing gear. I have a rock climbing
harness I use with that set up because sometimes I repel to get down.
I used a different setup from ATN in that I do more of a stair climb
than an inch worm going up. We also have a Milwaukee Holehog right
angle drill that operates on 28 volt battery power. With a 17mm
square bit in the chuck Kerri can send me aloft to the top in seconds.
I ordinarily use the chair when we do it this way as it’s more
comfortable. I’ve used both systems on trips up to 75 feet with no
problems although when I climb to the 75 foot mark (not on our boat
obviously) I’m pretty well too worn out to do much work! heh heh
George
Posted by Tom Vesey (tvesey@…>)
Here’s something a little scary: A couple of weeks ago I received in the mail a recall notice from West Marine, for the very nice solid-looking bosun’s chair I had bought from them almost four years ago. The webbing was defective, and the D rings were not strong enough to support human weight. Using this bosun’s chair could result in “serious injury”!i’ve used this bosun’'s chair to climb to the top of the mast many many times!I also use an ATN climber with a static line, which is pretty neat but I don’t feel I’ve quite got the technique down … it seems like more work than it should be.TomFreedom 44 JackrabbitBermudaOn Sep 19, 2008, at 8:09 AM, George Huffman wrote:We have a set up I built with climbing gear. I have a rock climbingharness I use with that set up because sometimes I repel to get down.I used a different setup from ATN in that I do more of a stair climbthan an inch worm going up. We also have a Milwaukee Holehog rightangle drill that operates on 28 volt battery power. With a 17mmsquare bit in the chuck Kerri can send me aloft to the top in seconds.I ordinarily use the chair when we do it this way as it’s morecomfortable. I’ve used both systems on trips up to 75 feet with noproblems although when I climb to the 75 foot mark (not on our boatobviously) I’m pretty well too worn out to do much work! heh heh George
Posted by marno_ss (marno@…>)
I’m coming over tomorrow for the meet in Holland, if you would like I
can bring the top climber so you can try it if you like. Let me know.
Regards
Marno
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “michel.capel”
<michel.capel@…> wrote:
Hi Chris,
I went up my 50’ mast singlehanded last month. I bought climbing gear
(two ascenders) and some carbiners and stuff. Took some effort, But I
got there. I used a slightly different line setup than the ATN
topclimber. I did not use a static line, but used the purchase of the
halyard. Then it takes half the power to lift my 100 kgs. The
topclimber is quite expensive if you already have a bosun’s chair. I
also use a chest harness (lifejacket) to sit more comfortable. On the
way down, my halyard got snagged under a deck cleat. My neighbour was
around, and he had to help me. This is something to watch out for and
speaks in favour of the static line method. Halfway up the mast I
suddenly got scared… I was only hanging from one shackle… I
swallowed and got up to the top without further thoughts because I
knew all masthead fittings had been renewed two years ago. But next
time, I’ll go up with somebody on deck below to handle a safety line.
Posted by rossbakery (rossbakery@…>)
Hi Marno,
Thanks for your experience. It’s
scary stuff.
I’m in Tassie
so won’t be making the meet in Holland.
But I will be over in UK for a couple of weeks in October.
I don’t know where you are but just maybe
we could fix to meet up. I’ll be based in Sussex and I’d travel for a day or so just to
have a look at a 39.
If you think this is a possibility send me
through your contact details. My direct e-mail is chris@…
Cheers
Chris L-B
15 Church Street,
Ross,
Tasmania, 7209
Australia
tel 0061 (0)3 63 815246
fax 0061 (0)3 63815360
www.rossbakery.com.au
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Sent: Saturday, 20 September 2008 2:01 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re:
Mast Climbing
I’m coming over tomorrow for the meet in Holland, if you would like I
can bring the top climber so you can try it if you like. Let me know.
Regards
Marno
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com,
“michel.capel”
<michel.capel@…> wrote:
Hi Chris,
I went up my 50’ mast singlehanded last month. I bought climbing gear
(two ascenders) and some carbiners and stuff. Took some effort, But I
got there. I used a slightly different line setup than the ATN
topclimber. I did not use a static line, but used the purchase of the
halyard. Then it takes half the power to lift my 100 kgs. The
topclimber is quite expensive if you already have a bosun’s chair. I
also use a chest harness (lifejacket) to sit more comfortable. On the
way down, my halyard got snagged under a deck cleat. My neighbour was
around, and he had to help me. This is something to watch out for and
speaks in favour of the static line method. Halfway up the mast I
suddenly got scared… I was only hanging from one shackle… I
swallowed and got up to the top without further thoughts because I
knew all masthead fittings had been renewed two years ago. But next
time, I’ll go up with somebody on deck below to handle a safety line.
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