Well almost. Although my boat is a 1987, this is a problem I never
had before.
I am in the process of opening my boat up for the Fall (it has been
sitting since mid-June). The engine started fine–as it always has–
but for the life of me I could not pull out the engine stop.
Fortunately, the engine lever was not frozen, and I could stop the
engine by taking off the cover and manually moving the lever.
Nothing I could do would budge the cockpit stop. It moved no more
than 1/32" and it would twist. I soon discovered that the twisting
was merely unscrewing the nut on the lazarette side. I tried a couple
of penetrating oils, but nothing seemed to work. I finally
concentrated on the engine side and pushed on the wire. After a half
day, there was some movement in the wire. I went topside and indeed I
could with great difficulty pull out the stop. It pushes in very
easily but pulling it out is difficult. (That is the strangest part!)
I finally pulled it out and slopped penetrating oil on the exposed
shaft, and I am leaving it until tomorrow.
That is where I am. Any one have any advice?
What do you think about loosening the set screw and pulling the wire
entirely out, cleaning, lubricating, and threading it back in?
When mine froze up I replaced the hole cable. Bad design that allows water to run down inside I suppose.
Alan
----- Original Message -----
From: mdurki
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 3:09 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] My engine won’t stop!
Well almost. Although my boat is a 1987, this is a problem I never had before. I am in the process of opening my boat up for the Fall (it has been sitting since mid-June). The engine started fine–as it always has–but for the life of me I could not pull out the engine stop. Fortunately, the engine lever was not frozen, and I could stop the engine by taking off the cover and manually moving the lever. Nothing I could do would budge the cockpit stop. It moved no more than 1/32" and it would twist. I soon discovered that the twisting was merely unscrewing the nut on the lazarette side. I tried a couple of penetrating oils, but nothing seemed to work. I finally concentrated on the engine side and pushed on the wire. After a half day, there was some movement in the wire. I went topside and indeed I could with great difficulty pull out the stop. It pushes in very easily but pulling it out is difficult. (That is the strangest part!) I finally pulled it out and slopped penetrating oil on the exposed shaft, and I am leaving it until tomorrow.That is where I am. Any one have any advice?What do you think about loosening the set screw and pulling the wire entirely out, cleaning, lubricating, and threading it back in?Is this a job for the yard?
I had the same problem and I did sort of what you where think. I
undid the set screw and put a bunch of lubricating oil on both ends
and moved the cable back and forth. It works much better. I will
see how well the lubrication holds up this weekend.
Well almost. Although my boat is a 1987, this is a problem I never
had before.
I am in the process of opening my boat up for the Fall (it has been
sitting since mid-June). The engine started fine–as it always has–
but for the life of me I could not pull out the engine stop.
Fortunately, the engine lever was not frozen, and I could stop the
engine by taking off the cover and manually moving the lever.
Nothing I could do would budge the cockpit stop. It moved no more
than 1/32" and it would twist. I soon discovered that the twisting
was merely unscrewing the nut on the lazarette side. I tried a
couple
of penetrating oils, but nothing seemed to work. I finally
concentrated on the engine side and pushed on the wire. After a
half
day, there was some movement in the wire. I went topside and indeed
I
could with great difficulty pull out the stop. It pushes in very
easily but pulling it out is difficult. (That is the strangest
part!)
I finally pulled it out and slopped penetrating oil on the exposed
shaft, and I am leaving it until tomorrow.
That is where I am. Any one have any advice?
What do you think about loosening the set screw and pulling the
wire
entirely out, cleaning, lubricating, and threading it back in?
I should have also mentioned that after replacement I put a piece of a plastic bag over the whole thing with a rubber band. My thinking is water will not be able to get in this way. The bag has slack so I can pull the cable without removing it. Don’t know why they don’t design these cable to essentially build something like this in so there’s no gasket leak issues.
Alan
----- Original Message -----
From: msheehan1
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 3:47 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: My engine won’t stop!
I had the same problem and I did sort of what you where think. I undid the set screw and put a bunch of lubricating oil on both ends and moved the cable back and forth. It works much better. I will see how well the lubrication holds up this weekend.— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “mdurki” <vaughan@i…> wrote:> Well almost. Although my boat is a 1987, this is a problem I never > had before. > > I am in the process of opening my boat up for the Fall (it has been > sitting since mid-June). The engine started fine–as it always has–> but for the life of me I could not pull out the engine stop. > Fortunately, the engine lever was not frozen, and I could stop the > engine by taking off the cover and manually moving the lever. > > Nothing I could do would budge the cockpit stop. It moved no more > than 1/32" and it would twist. I soon discovered that the twisting > was merely unscrewing the nut on the lazarette side. I tried a couple > of penetrating oils, but nothing seemed to work. I finally > concentrated on the engine side and pushed on the wire. After a half > day, there was some movement in the wire. I went topside and indeed I > could with great difficulty pull out the stop. It pushes in very > easily but pulling it out is difficult. (That is the strangest part!) > I finally pulled it out and slopped penetrating oil on the exposed > shaft, and I am leaving it until tomorrow.> > That is where I am. Any one have any advice?> > What do you think about loosening the set screw and pulling the wire > entirely out, cleaning, lubricating, and threading it back in?> > Is this a job for the yard?
Same thing happened to me . It was an extra turn in the cable causing
friction,and the cable was never greased. It wasn’t reliable,so I got
theYanmar part new,took out the wire,pumped moly grease into the the
housing and installed it. Works like butter and the grease will add to its
life. BTW,you cannot get the wire out easily,as it is flattened at the stop
lever,and it will not go back in at all. New cable was not expensive-less
than $25 as I recall
From: “mdurki” <vaughan@…>
To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 3:09 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] My engine won’t stop!
\
Well almost. Although my boat is a 1987, this is a problem I never
had before.
I am in the process of opening my boat up for the Fall (it has been
sitting since mid-June). The engine started fine–as it always has–
but for the life of me I could not pull out the engine stop.
Fortunately, the engine lever was not frozen, and I could stop the
engine by taking off the cover and manually moving the lever.
Nothing I could do would budge the cockpit stop. It moved no more
than 1/32" and it would twist. I soon discovered that the twisting
was merely unscrewing the nut on the lazarette side. I tried a couple
of penetrating oils, but nothing seemed to work. I finally
concentrated on the engine side and pushed on the wire. After a half
day, there was some movement in the wire. I went topside and indeed I
could with great difficulty pull out the stop. It pushes in very
easily but pulling it out is difficult. (That is the strangest part!)
I finally pulled it out and slopped penetrating oil on the exposed
shaft, and I am leaving it until tomorrow.
That is where I am. Any one have any advice?
What do you think about loosening the set screw and pulling the wire
entirely out, cleaning, lubricating, and threading it back in?
One addition . I attached a snaking line to the engine end of the cable,and
used it to pull the new cable back I avoided turns and used the extra length
to make a large loop fixed with cable ties.Sharp turns will bind the cable.
----- Original Message -----
From: “Jerome Weinraub” <zayde@…>
To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] My engine won’t stop!
\
Same thing happened to me . It was an extra turn in the cable causing
friction,and the cable was never greased. It wasn’t reliable,so I got
theYanmar part new,took out the wire,pumped moly grease into the the
housing and installed it. Works like butter and the grease will add to
its
life. BTW,you cannot get the wire out easily,as it is flattened at the
stop
lever,and it will not go back in at all. New cable was not expensive-less
than $25 as I recall
From: “mdurki” <vaughan@…>
To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 3:09 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] My engine won’t stop!
Well almost. Although my boat is a 1987, this is a problem I never
had before.
I am in the process of opening my boat up for the Fall (it has been
sitting since mid-June). The engine started fine–as it always has–
but for the life of me I could not pull out the engine stop.
Fortunately, the engine lever was not frozen, and I could stop the
engine by taking off the cover and manually moving the lever.
Nothing I could do would budge the cockpit stop. It moved no more
than 1/32" and it would twist. I soon discovered that the twisting
was merely unscrewing the nut on the lazarette side. I tried a couple
of penetrating oils, but nothing seemed to work. I finally
concentrated on the engine side and pushed on the wire. After a half
day, there was some movement in the wire. I went topside and indeed I
could with great difficulty pull out the stop. It pushes in very
easily but pulling it out is difficult. (That is the strangest part!)
I finally pulled it out and slopped penetrating oil on the exposed
shaft, and I am leaving it until tomorrow.
That is where I am. Any one have any advice?
What do you think about loosening the set screw and pulling the wire
entirely out, cleaning, lubricating, and threading it back in?
Posted by Brien Barnewolt (babarnewolt@…>)
Lubrication of the engine stop cable on a yearly basis is exactly what Mack Boring advises in their engine maintenance class. Stuck knobs are common. Easy to overlook and I’m guilty of not doing it myself. After this thread, it’s on my list to do too!On Sep 22, 2005, at 7:15 PM, Jerome Weinraub wrote: Same thing happened to me . It was an extra turn in the cable causing friction,and the cable was never greased. It wasn’t reliable,so I got theYanmar part new,took out the wire,pumped moly grease into the the housing and installed it. Works like butter and the grease will add to its life. BTW,you cannot get the wire out easily,as it is flattened at the stop lever,and it will not go back in at all. New cable was not expensive-less than $25 as I recall From: “mdurki” <vaughan@…> To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 3:09 PM Subject: [freedomyachts2003] My engine won’t stop! > Well almost. Although my boat is a 1987, this is a problem I never > had before. > > I am in the process of opening my boat up for the Fall (it has been > sitting since mid-June). The engine started fine–as it always has-- > but for the life of me I could not pull out the engine stop. > Fortunately, the engine lever was not frozen, and I could stop the > engine by taking off the cover and manually moving the lever. > > Nothing I could do would budge the cockpit stop. It moved no more > than 1/32" and it would twist. I soon discovered that the twisting > was merely unscrewing the nut on the lazarette side. I tried a couple > of penetrating oils, but nothing seemed to work. I finally > concentrated on the engine side and pushed on the wire. After a half > day, there was some movement in the wire. I went topside and indeed I > could with great difficulty pull out the stop. It pushes in very > easily but pulling it out is difficult. (That is the strangest part!) > I finally pulled it out and slopped penetrating oil on the exposed > shaft, and I am leaving it until tomorrow. > > That is where I am. Any one have any advice? > > What do you think about loosening the set screw and pulling the wire > entirely out, cleaning, lubricating, and threading it back in? > > Is this a job for the yard? > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Sailing schools Sailing instruction Sailing lesson Sailing course Sailing adventure Sailing YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group “freedomyachts2003” on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: freedomyachts2003-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
All well and good,but there is NO grease fitting on the cable.
----- Original Message -----
From: Brien Barnewolt
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] My engine won’t stop!
Lubrication of the engine stop cable on a yearly basis is exactly what Mack Boring advises in their engine maintenance class. Stuck knobs are common. Easy to overlook and I’m guilty of not doing it myself. After this thread, it’s on my list to do too!
On Sep 22, 2005, at 7:15 PM, Jerome Weinraub wrote:
Same thing happened to me . It was an extra turn in the cable causing friction,and the cable was never greased. It wasn’t reliable,so I got theYanmar part new,took out the wire,pumped moly grease into the the housing and installed it. Works like butter and the grease will add to its life. BTW,you cannot get the wire out easily,as it is flattened at the stop lever,and it will not go back in at all. New cable was not expensive-less than $25 as I recallFrom: “mdurki” <vaughan@…>To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 3:09 PMSubject: [freedomyachts2003] My engine won’t stop!> Well almost. Although my boat is a 1987, this is a problem I never> had before.>> I am in the process of opening my boat up for the Fall (it has been> sitting since mid-June). The engine started fine–as it always has–> but for the life of me I could not pull out the engine stop.> Fortunately, the engine lever was not frozen, and I could stop the> engine by taking off the cover and manually moving the lever.>> Nothing I could do would budge the cockpit stop. It moved no more> than 1/32" and it would twist. I soon discovered that the twisting> was merely unscrewing the nut on the lazarette side. I tried a couple> of penetrating oils, but nothing seemed to work. I finally> concentrated on the engine side and pushed on the wire. After a half> day, there was some movement in the wire. I went topside and indeed I> could with great difficulty pull out the stop. It pushes in very> easily but pulling it out is difficult. (That is the strangest part!)> I finally pulled it out and slopped penetrating oil on the exposed> shaft, and I am leaving it until tomorrow.>> That is where I am. Any one have any advice?>> What do you think about loosening the set screw and pulling the wire> entirely out, cleaning, lubricating, and threading it back in?>> Is this a job for the yard?>>>>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links>>>>>>
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Posted by Brien Barnewolt (babarnewolt@…>)
Right. You have to pull the cable out of the sheath (but not all the way or it will be difficult to replace), lubricate and then reinsert the cable in the sheath.On Sep 23, 2005, at 6:14 AM, Jerome Weinraub wrote:All well and good,but there is NO grease fitting on the cable.----- Original Message -----From: Brien BarnewoltTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 7:51 PMSubject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] My engine won’t stop!Lubrication of the engine stop cable on a yearly basis is exactly what Mack Boring advises in their engine maintenance class. Stuck knobs are common. Easy to overlook and I’m guilty of not doing it myself. After this thread, it’s on my list to do too!On Sep 22, 2005, at 7:15 PM, Jerome Weinraub wrote:Same thing happened to me . It was an extra turn in the cable causing friction,and the cable was never greased. It wasn’t reliable,so I got theYanmar part new,took out the wire,pumped moly grease into the the housing and installed it. Works like butter and the grease will add to its life. BTW,you cannot get the wire out easily,as it is flattened at the stop lever,and it will not go back in at all. New cable was not expensive-less than $25 as I recallFrom: “mdurki” <vaughan@…>To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 3:09 PMSubject: [freedomyachts2003] My engine won’t stop!> Well almost. Although my boat is a 1987, this is a problem I never> had before.>> I am in the process of opening my boat up for the Fall (it has been> sitting since mid-June). The engine started fine–as it always has–> but for the life of me I could not pull out the engine stop.> Fortunately, the engine lever was not frozen, and I could stop the> engine by taking off the cover and manually moving the lever.>> Nothing I could do would budge the cockpit stop. It moved no more> than 1/32" and it would twist. I soon discovered that the twisting> was merely unscrewing the nut on the lazarette side. I tried a couple> of penetrating oils, but nothing seemed to work. I finally> concentrated on the engine side and pushed on the wire. After a half> day, there was some movement in the wire. I went topside and indeed I> could with great difficulty pull out the stop. It pushes in very> easily but pulling it out is difficult. (That is the strangest part!)> I finally pulled it out and slopped penetrating oil on the exposed> shaft, and I am leaving it until tomorrow.>> That is where I am. Any one have any advice?>> What do you think about loosening the set screw and pulling the wire> entirely out, cleaning, lubricating, and threading it back in?>> Is this a job for the yard?>>>>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links>>>>>> SPONSORED LINKSSailing schoolsSailing instructionSailing lessonSailing courseSailing adventureSailingYAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group “freedomyachts2003” on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: freedomyachts2003-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.SPONSORED LINKSSailing schoolsSailing instructionSailing lessonSailing courseSailing adventureSailingYAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group “freedomyachts2003” on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: freedomyachts2003-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
If your using the original cable and its a yanmar, you’ve done pretty good.
When we took delivery on our 10 year old well maintained Freedom 35, the
only problem was a frozen shutoff cable. It had been replaced a few years
earlier by the original owner. This time I replaced it with a stronger and
better built cable. Hopefully it will last longer
Well almost. Although my boat is a 1987, this is a problem I never
had before.
I am in the process of opening my boat up for the Fall (it has been
sitting since mid-June). The engine started fine–as it always has–
but for the life of me I could not pull out the engine stop.
Fortunately, the engine lever was not frozen, and I could stop the
engine by taking off the cover and manually moving the lever.
Nothing I could do would budge the cockpit stop. It moved no more
than 1/32" and it would twist. I soon discovered that the twisting
was merely unscrewing the nut on the lazarette side. I tried a couple
of penetrating oils, but nothing seemed to work. I finally
concentrated on the engine side and pushed on the wire. After a half
day, there was some movement in the wire. I went topside and indeed I
could with great difficulty pull out the stop. It pushes in very
easily but pulling it out is difficult. (That is the strangest part!)
I finally pulled it out and slopped penetrating oil on the exposed
shaft, and I am leaving it until tomorrow.
That is where I am. Any one have any advice?
What do you think about loosening the set screw and pulling the wire
entirely out, cleaning, lubricating, and threading it back in?
----- Original Message -----
From: “Jay T. Reed” <reedjayt@…>
To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 10:47 AM
Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] My engine won’t stop!
\
If your using the original cable and its a yanmar, you’ve done pretty
good.
When we took delivery on our 10 year old well maintained Freedom 35, the
only problem was a frozen shutoff cable. It had been replaced a few years
earlier by the original owner. This time I replaced it with a stronger
and
better built cable. Hopefully it will last longer
Well almost. Although my boat is a 1987, this is a problem I never
had before.
I am in the process of opening my boat up for the Fall (it has been
sitting since mid-June). The engine started fine–as it always has–
but for the life of me I could not pull out the engine stop.
Fortunately, the engine lever was not frozen, and I could stop the
engine by taking off the cover and manually moving the lever.
Nothing I could do would budge the cockpit stop. It moved no more
than 1/32" and it would twist. I soon discovered that the twisting
was merely unscrewing the nut on the lazarette side. I tried a couple
of penetrating oils, but nothing seemed to work. I finally
concentrated on the engine side and pushed on the wire. After a half
day, there was some movement in the wire. I went topside and indeed I
could with great difficulty pull out the stop. It pushes in very
easily but pulling it out is difficult. (That is the strangest part!)
I finally pulled it out and slopped penetrating oil on the exposed
shaft, and I am leaving it until tomorrow.
That is where I am. Any one have any advice?
What do you think about loosening the set screw and pulling the wire
entirely out, cleaning, lubricating, and threading it back in?