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Posted by lance_ryley (lance_ryley@…>)

Not for nothing, and at the palpable risk of opening some old wounds,
there is another Freedom group, called “Freedom Owners Group.” It
already has multiple moderators, space in photos and in files, and
essentially the core group from here has already joined.

While its original intent was to provide a forum for a non-virtual
Owners’ Group in the spirit of the Nonsuch association, it is
currently underutilized for that purpose and I am more than willing to
open it up to the kind of useful and lively discussions we have in ‘here.’

While I agree that the spam issue right now is mostly a nuisance, the
other group is available.

Kind regards,
Lance
“Bright Star”

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Posted by Alan Kusinitz (akusinitz@…>)


I agree it could be used. I guess the
problem is so many people are subscribed to this group and might be unlikely to
move over.
We could, however, at least use it for
posting photos since that’s not possible anymore on this group.
Alan

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Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006
8:22 PM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] new
group…

Not for nothing, and at the
palpable risk of opening some old wounds,
there is another Freedom group, called
“Freedom Owners Group.” It
already has multiple moderators, space in photos
and in files, and
essentially the core group from here has already
joined.

While its original intent was to provide a forum
for a non-virtual
Owners’ Group in the spirit of the Nonsuch
association, it is
currently underutilized for that purpose and I am more
than willing to
open it up to the kind of useful and lively
discussions we have in ‘here.’

While I agree that the spam issue right now is
mostly a nuisance, the
other group is available.

Kind regards,
Lance
“Bright Star”




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Posted by willie doyle (williedoylemom@…>)

In keeping with the KISS principle. . . why are there
two Freedom Groups. Why wouldn’t everone prefer to be
in one, spam free group. I/we for one are happy to
move to what ever group involves all Freedom owners.
Faith

— Alan Kusinitz <akusinitz@…> wrote:

I agree it could be used. I guess the problem is so
many people are
subscribed to this group and might be unlikely to
move over.

We could, however, at least use it for posting
photos since that’s not
possible anymore on this group.

Alan

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To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] new group…

Not for nothing, and at the palpable risk of opening
some old wounds,
there is another Freedom group, called “Freedom
Owners Group.” It
already has multiple moderators, space in photos and
in files, and
essentially the core group from here has already
joined.

While its original intent was to provide a forum for
a non-virtual
Owners’ Group in the spirit of the Nonsuch
association, it is
currently underutilized for that purpose and I am
more than willing to
open it up to the kind of useful and lively
discussions we have in ‘here.’

While I agree that the spam issue right now is
mostly a nuisance, the
other group is available.

Kind regards,
Lance
“Bright Star”

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Posted by Alan Kusinitz (akusinitz@…>)


The other group was originally set up just
for folks to discuss setup of a formal association. We originally did that on
this group but those not interested complained there was too much non-technical
stuff so this was the solution. Formation of the formal association has gone
slowly so its not heavily used right now. It wasn’t intended to replace
this group in any event.
Alan

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Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006
11:22 PM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003]
new group…

In keeping with the KISS
principle. . . why are there
two Freedom Groups. Why wouldn’t everone prefer to
be
in one, spam free group. I/we for one are
happy to
move to what ever group involves all Freedom
owners.
Faith

— Alan Kusinitz <akusinitz@…>
wrote:

I agree it could be used. I guess the problem
is so
many people are
subscribed to this group and might be
unlikely to
move over.

We could, however, at least use it for
posting
photos since that’s not
possible anymore on this group.

Alan

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Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 8:22 PM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] new group…

Not for nothing, and at the palpable risk of
opening
some old wounds,
there is another Freedom group, called
“Freedom
Owners Group.” It
already has multiple moderators, space in
photos and
in files, and
essentially the core group from here has
already
joined.

While its original intent was to provide a
forum for
a non-virtual
Owners’ Group in the spirit of the Nonsuch
association, it is
currently underutilized for that purpose and
I am
more than willing to
open it up to the kind of useful and lively
discussions we have in ‘here.’

While I agree that the spam issue right now
is
mostly a nuisance, the
other group is available.

Kind regards,
Lance
“Bright Star”

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Posted by Michel Capel (mike_c_f35ck@…>)

Most active users will get over to the other group, I think. But as
it has been set up as an unmoderated group, spammers can get access
as well.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Alan Kusinitz”
<akusinitz@y…> wrote:

I agree it could be used. I guess the problem is so many people are
subscribed to this group and might be unlikely to move over.

We could, however, at least use it for posting photos since that’s
not
possible anymore on this group.

Alan

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[mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lance_ryley
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 8:22 PM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] new group…

Not for nothing, and at the palpable risk of opening some old
wounds,
there is another Freedom group, called “Freedom Owners Group.” It
already has multiple moderators, space in photos and in files, and
essentially the core group from here has already joined.

While its original intent was to provide a forum for a non-virtual
Owners’ Group in the spirit of the Nonsuch association, it is
currently underutilized for that purpose and I am more than
willing to
open it up to the kind of useful and lively discussions we have
in ‘here.’

While I agree that the spam issue right now is mostly a nuisance,
the
other group is available.

Kind regards,
Lance
“Bright Star”

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Posted by lance_ryley (lance_ryley@…>)

“Moderation” in the Yahoo meaning simply means that you can post a
message without a moderator approving the content.

However, FOG is set up to require approval of new members (unlike
fy2003 which is set on automatic approval), so if spammers join
under false pretenses, they can - and will - be kicked out of the
group. Also, the setting is to allow only members to post, view
files, databases, etc. so getting spam from non-members is unlikely.

Lance

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Michel Capel”
<mike_c_f35ck@y…> wrote:

Most active users will get over to the other group, I think. But
as
it has been set up as an unmoderated group, spammers can get
access
as well.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Alan Kusinitz”
<akusinitz@y…> wrote:

I agree it could be used. I guess the problem is so many people
are
subscribed to this group and might be unlikely to move over.

We could, however, at least use it for posting photos since
that’s
not
possible anymore on this group.

Alan

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From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
lance_ryley
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 8:22 PM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] new group…

Not for nothing, and at the palpable risk of opening some old
wounds,
there is another Freedom group, called “Freedom Owners Group.”
It
already has multiple moderators, space in photos and in files,
and
essentially the core group from here has already joined.

While its original intent was to provide a forum for a non-
virtual
Owners’ Group in the spirit of the Nonsuch association, it is
currently underutilized for that purpose and I am more than
willing to
open it up to the kind of useful and lively discussions we have
in ‘here.’

While I agree that the spam issue right now is mostly a
nuisance,
the
other group is available.

Kind regards,
Lance
“Bright Star”

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Posted by Dave_Benjamin (dave_benjamin@…>)

I just did a search for that group and it didn’t come up. I’d be
curious to check it out. Does anyone have a link?
I remember some efforts to put together a class association around
the time we bought Entropy. We actually had a Freedom get-together at
Angel Island in SF Bay. We had just brought our boat up from San
Diego and it was our first time going anywhere in the Bay. The
mooring field was crowded and we had to get creative to get moored. I
managed to snag a mooring line with the prop. Luckily someone was out
in a dinghy so we got lines secured and enjoyed an evening in the
company of other Freedom owners. In the morning I got to do a series
of free dives in some very chilly water. I had a wetsuit on but it
was still cold. Someone who was both kind and wise heated up some
water on the stove that we poured into the wetsuit after I got done.
I’ll never forget that.


— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “lance_ryley”
<lance_ryley@y…> wrote:

Not for nothing, and at the palpable risk of opening some old
wounds,
there is another Freedom group, called “Freedom Owners Group.” It
already has multiple moderators, space in photos and in files, and
essentially the core group from here has already joined.

While its original intent was to provide a forum for a non-virtual
Owners’ Group in the spirit of the Nonsuch association, it is
currently underutilized for that purpose and I am more than willing
to
open it up to the kind of useful and lively discussions we have
in ‘here.’

While I agree that the spam issue right now is mostly a nuisance,
the
other group is available.

Kind regards,
Lance
“Bright Star”

8

Posted by Alan Kusinitz (akusinitz@…>)


Its FreedomOwnersGroup

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From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave_Benjamin
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006
10:32 PM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re:
new group…

I just did a search for that
group and it didn’t come up. I’d be
curious to check it out. Does anyone have a link?
I remember some efforts to put together a class
association around
the time we bought Entropy. We actually had a
Freedom get-together at
Angel Island in SF Bay. We had just brought our boat up from San
Diego and it was our first time going anywhere in the
Bay. The
mooring field was crowded and we had to get
creative to get moored. I
managed to snag a mooring line with the prop.
Luckily someone was out
in a dinghy so we got lines secured and enjoyed an
evening in the
company of other Freedom owners. In the morning I
got to do a series
of free dives in some very chilly water. I had a
wetsuit on but it
was still cold. Someone who was both kind and wise
heated up some
water on the stove that we poured into the wetsuit
after I got done.
I’ll never forget that.


— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com,
“lance_ryley”
<lance_ryley@y…> wrote:

Not for nothing, and at the palpable risk of
opening some old
wounds,
there is another Freedom group, called
“Freedom Owners Group.” It
already has multiple moderators, space in
photos and in files, and
essentially the core group from here has
already joined.

While its original intent was to provide a
forum for a non-virtual
Owners’ Group in the spirit of the Nonsuch
association, it is
currently underutilized for that purpose and
I am more than willing
to
open it up to the kind of useful and lively
discussions we have
in ‘here.’

While I agree that the spam issue right now
is mostly a nuisance,
the
other group is available.

Kind regards,
Lance
“Bright Star”






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