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Posted by George Huffman (thatboatguy2@…>)

Hi!

We are George and Kerri,

We just today purchased a Freedom 40 Cat Ketch Centerboard Center
Cockpit boat.

We are tremendously excited even though she is in need of a total
refit. I have not hit the search button yet but has anyone gotten
into the mechanics of the centerboard? I’m not going to be
comfortable until I’ve completely inspected the pin and the mechanism
for raising and lowering it.

Any information or advice is greatly appriciated.

Thanks

George

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Posted by Jay Glen (britann9225@…>)
George & Kerri, I own “Fantasy” a 1981 F-40 CK, aft cockpit and centerboard. I replaced the lifting pendant when I purchased her 3 years ago. You can do it with a diver, however, it is easier to do it while on the hard. Mine is just a 1/2" yachtbraid that attaches to the eye on the aft edge of the centerboard, then runs to a sheet-stopper and Barient on the coachroof top. The pin is not accessable without grinding away the fiberglass covering the ends of the pin. They are visable by opening the floorboards in front of the galley sink and the floorboards in front of the refer box. Your layout is different I’m sure, but the pin location should be visable toward the front of the centerboard trunk. I’m not sure what the pin is made of, stainless or bronze. Hopefully bronze. JayGeorge Huffman <thatboatguy2@…>
wrote: Hi! We are George and Kerri,We just today purchased a Freedom 40 Cat Ketch Centerboard CenterCockpit boat. We are tremendously excited even though she is in need of a totalrefit. I have not hit the search button yet but has anyone gotteninto the mechanics of the centerboard? I’m not going to becomfortable until I’ve completely inspected the pin and the mechanismfor raising and lowering it. Any information or advice is greatly appriciated.ThanksGeorge

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Posted by george huffman (thatboatguy2@…>)
Hey Jay,Thanks for the info. Our boat is on the hard. I saw what I think is a wire rope pendant from inside the engine room run thru a doubler and a mechanical windlass. It didn’t instill confidence and I have to wonder if it’s original. Is the centerboard solid iron? Anyone know the weight? Sorry I’ll be asking so many questions. GeorgeJay Glen <britann9225@…> wrote: George & Kerri, I own “Fantasy” a 1981 F-40 CK, aft
cockpit and centerboard. I replaced the lifting pendant when I purchased her 3 years ago. You can do it with a diver, however, it is easier to do it while on the hard. Mine is just a 1/2" yachtbraid that attaches to the eye on the aft edge of the centerboard, then runs to a sheet-stopper and Barient on the coachroof top. The pin is not accessable without grinding away the fiberglass covering the ends of the pin. They are visable by opening the floorboards in front of the galley sink and the floorboards in front of the refer box. Your layout is different I’m sure, but the pin location should be visable toward the front of the centerboard trunk. I’m not sure what the pin is made of, stainless or bronze. Hopefully bronze. JayGeorge Huffman <thatboatguy2@yahoo.com> wrote: Hi! We are George and Kerri,We just today purchased a Freedom 40 Cat Ketch Centerboard CenterCockpit boat. We are tremendously excited even though she is in need of a totalrefit. I have not hit the search button yet but has anyone gotteninto the mechanics of the centerboard? I’m not going to becomfortable until I’ve completely inspected the pin and the mechanismfor raising and lowering it. Any information or advice is greatly appriciated.ThanksGeorge Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who
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Posted by Alan Kusinitz (akusinitz@…>)



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Hi!

We are George and Kerri,

We just today purchased a Freedom 40 Cat Ketch Centerboard Center
Cockpit boat.

We are tremendously excited even though she is in need of a total
refit. I have not hit the search button yet but has anyone gotten
into the mechanics of the centerboard? I’m not going to be
comfortable until I’ve completely inspected the pin and the mechanism
for raising and lowering it.

Any information or advice is greatly appriciated.

Thanks

George

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Posted by michel.capel (michel.capel@…>)

George,

I’m only familiar with the F40 via documentation. The board contains
roughly 1/3 of the ballast in the form of lead pellets. The pin is
4" diameter and I think it’s stainless steel. At least on the UK
built Freedoms it is. The pin needs no maintenance; I’ve never heard
of failure or problems.

Good luck with the boat, and you may want to take a look at my F44
refit project at www.flickr.com/photos/alabama_queen It became a
project almost bigger than me. But I still love working on the boat.

Michel Capel

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, george huffman
<thatboatguy2@…> wrote:

Hey Jay,

Thanks for the info. Our boat is on the hard. I saw what I think
is a wire rope pendant from inside the engine room run thru a
doubler and a mechanical windlass. It didn’t instill confidence and
I have to wonder if it’s original. Is the centerboard solid iron?
Anyone know the weight? Sorry I’ll be asking so many questions.

George

Jay Glen <britann9225@…> wrote:
George & Kerri,

I own “Fantasy” a 1981 F-40 CK, aft cockpit and centerboard. I
replaced the lifting pendant when I purchased her 3 years ago. You
can do it with a diver, however, it is easier to do it while on the
hard. Mine is just a 1/2" yachtbraid that attaches to the eye on the
aft edge of the centerboard, then runs to a sheet-stopper and
Barient on the coachroof top.

The pin is not accessable without grinding away the fiberglass
covering the ends of the pin. They are visable by opening the
floorboards in front of the galley sink and the floorboards in front
of the refer box. Your layout is different I’m sure, but the pin
location should be visable toward the front of the centerboard trunk.

I’m not sure what the pin is made of, stainless or bronze.
Hopefully bronze.

Jay

George Huffman <thatboatguy2@…> wrote:
Hi!

We are George and Kerri,

We just today purchased a Freedom 40 Cat Ketch Centerboard Center
Cockpit boat.

We are tremendously excited even though she is in need of a total
refit. I have not hit the search button yet but has anyone gotten
into the mechanics of the centerboard? I’m not going to be
comfortable until I’ve completely inspected the pin and the
mechanism
for raising and lowering it.

Any information or advice is greatly appriciated.

Thanks

George

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who knows.
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Posted by Norm Friberg (nfriberg@…>)

Hi George,

I have a similar boat, which I bought 2 years ago from the original owner. I don’t know about the pin for the centerboard, but I did have to replace the pendant one day after it broke, locking me into the mud at my slip! I was able to repair it with some standard 1/2 inch dacron rope and a diving mask (and Mary anxiously spotting for me on deck). I would like to rig up a pulley system that would improve the mechanical advantage, as it is a chore raising the board even using the hefty winch. Our winch is horizontal and close to the mizzen mast, so the first owner got creative and had a winch bit welded to a car steering wheel, so no knuckle-busting when cranking up the board.

Norm Friberg
SV Freyja

----- Original Message -----
From: George Huffman
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 6:11 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] New Members


Hi! We are George and Kerri,We just today purchased a Freedom 40 Cat Ketch Centerboard CenterCockpit boat. We are tremendously excited even though she is in need of a totalrefit. I have not hit the search button yet but has anyone gotteninto the mechanics of the centerboard? I’m not going to becomfortable until I’ve completely inspected the pin and the mechanismfor raising and lowering it. Any information or advice is greatly appriciated.ThanksGeorge

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Posted by Herman and Gail Schiller (hschiller2@…>)

I love the steering wheel with winch bit. That’s what I recall
Shellman Brown was like. I know he built and installed the entire
innards into what was called the “sailaway” version of the Freedom
40. He was also famous for digging a giant hole under the
centerboard area in order to properly refinish the bottom paint on
the C’board. Ask the old-timers at the Poughkeepsie Yacht Club. Herm

At 08:02 AM 7/5/2007, you wrote:

Hi George,

I have a similar boat, which I bought 2 years ago from the original
owner. I don’t know about the pin for the centerboard, but I did
have to replace the pendant one day after it broke, locking me into
the mud at my slip! I was able to repair it with some standard 1/2
inch dacron rope and a diving mask (and Mary anxiously spotting for
me on deck). I would like to rig up a pulley system that would
improve the mechanical advantage, as it is a chore raising the board
even using the hefty winch. Our winch is horizontal and close to
the mizzen mast, so the first owner got creative and had a winch bit
welded to a car steering wheel, so no knuckle-busting when cranking
up the board.

Norm Friberg
SV Freyja

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From: mailto:thatboatguy2@...George Huffman
To:
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Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 6:11 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] New Members

Hi!

We are George and Kerri,

We just today purchased a Freedom 40 Cat Ketch Centerboard Center
Cockpit boat.

We are tremendously excited even though she is in need of a total
refit. I have not hit the search button yet but has anyone gotten
into the mechanics of the centerboard? I’m not going to be
comfortable until I’ve completely inspected the pin and the mechanism
for raising and lowering it.

Any information or advice is greatly appriciated.

Thanks

George

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Posted by Norm Friberg (nfriberg@…>)

Herm,

I know. I had long chats with several of the Poughkeepsie people. Shelman was indeed unique. By the way, after replacing the CB pendant as described below, I found Shelman’s official replacement line, pre-measured and clearly labeled, under the aft cabin bunk.

Norm

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From: Herman and Gail Schiller
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] New Members


I love the steering wheel with winch bit. That’s what I recall Shellman Brown was like. I know he built and installed the entire innards into what was called the “sailaway” version of the Freedom 40. He was also famous for digging a giant hole under the centerboard area in order to properly refinish the bottom paint on the C’board. Ask the old-timers at the Poughkeepsie Yacht Club. HermAt 08:02 AM 7/5/2007, you wrote:>Hi George,>>I have a similar boat, which I bought 2 years ago from the original >owner. I don’t know about the pin for the centerboard, but I did >have to replace the pendant one day after it broke, locking me into >the mud at my slip! I was able to repair it with some standard 1/2 >inch dacron rope and a diving mask (and Mary anxiously spotting for >me on deck). I would like to rig up a pulley system that would >improve the mechanical advantage, as it is a chore raising the board >even using the hefty winch. Our winch is horizontal and close to >the mizzen mast, so the first owner got creative and had a winch bit >welded to a car steering wheel, so no knuckle-busting when cranking >up the board.>>Norm Friberg>SV Freyja>>>----- Original Message ----->From: <mailto:thatboatguy2@yahoo.com>George Huffman>To: ><mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 6:11 PM>Subject: [freedomyachts2003] New Members>>Hi!>>We are George and Kerri,>>We just today purchased a Freedom 40 Cat Ketch Centerboard Center>Cockpit boat.>>We are tremendously excited even though she is in need of a total>refit. I have not hit the search button yet but has anyone gotten>into the mechanics of the centerboard? I’m not going to be>comfortable until I’ve completely inspected the pin and the mechanism>for raising and lowering it.>>Any information or advice is greatly appriciated.>>Thanks>>George>>