Posted by George Huffman (thatboatguy2@…>)
Where the heck to people put the propane tanks on these boats.
Formerly they were in a cockpit locker on the stbd side of the boat
with a vent hole overboard just above the waterline. This is lunacy
because the first time we were out we healed very far over (OK I was
pushing on her pretty good) and that locker just flooded! Looking
around for alternatives but no need to reinvent the wheel. I’m
thinking about putting an access hatch in the aft port corner of the
poop deck and building a locker into the aft cabin area to accommodate
two twenty pound bottles.
Ideas?
George
Posted by Dwight Escalera (descalera1@…>)
George,Be sure to check the ABYC Standards “Marine Liquefied Petroleum Gas (LPG) Systems, A-1”, regarding propane lockers to insure a safe installation. Some important points include sealing the locker to prevent fumes from entering the hull and providing a dedicated drain (1/2" min) that exits the hull above the waterline. Since propane is heavier than air, make sure the drain hose has a constant pitch with no pockets to trap water which will prevent gas from flowing out. The locker lid should be gasketed and have a means to latch it closed. The supply hose should be sealed where it exits the locker and if you use an electric solenoid (recommended), be sure to seal the wires as well. You will also need to mount the pressure regulator inside the locker and provide a gauge on the bottle-side of the regulator that you can use to check for leaks. Dwight EscaleraF36-71Wakefield, RIOn Nov 7, 2008, at 9:00 PM, George Huffman wrote:Where the heck to people put the propane tanks on these boats. Formerly they were in a cockpit locker on the stbd side of the boatwith a vent hole overboard just above the waterline. This is lunacybecause the first time we were out we healed very far over (OK I waspushing on her pretty good) and that locker just flooded! Lookingaround for alternatives but no need to reinvent the wheel. I’mthinking about putting an access hatch in the aft port corner of thepoop deck and building a locker into the aft cabin area to accommodatetwo twenty pound bottles. Ideas? George
Posted by george huffman (thatboatguy2@…>)
I’ll be keeping to the coastguard standards. ABYC is an attempt to form a guild and should be shunned at every opportunity. I do very much appreciate your comments concerning safety. I have kept to very high standards on all refit items. Interesting to note that the previous installation met all ABYC standards you site but get’s flooded when the boat heals on port tack. heh heh I sailed on an Island Packet 45 from Marsh Harbor to STT a couple years ago and it had a simular arrangement. The latch vibrated loose and hard on the weather an empty bottle actually floated out of the box one night and was lost overboard. I just wonder how other boats like ours have solved the problem. Doing it my way we will loose some storage space in the aft cabin, but we get to have the cockpit locker back. Fair enough
trade I think. 
George — On Fri, 11/7/08, Dwight Escalera <descalera1@…> wrote:From: Dwight Escalera <descalera1@…>Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Propane locker F 40 CK CCTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comDate: Friday, November 7, 2008, 9:41 PM
George,Be sure to check the ABYC Standards “Marine Liquefied Petroleum Gas (LPG) Systems, A-1”, regarding propane lockers to insure a safe installation. Some important points include sealing the locker to prevent fumes from entering the hull and providing a dedicated drain (1/2" min) that exits the hull above the waterline. Since propane is heavier than air, make sure the drain hose has a constant pitch with no pockets to trap water which will prevent gas from flowing out. The locker lid should be gasketed and have a means to latch it closed. The supply hose should be sealed where it exits the locker and if you use an electric solenoid (recommended) , be sure to seal the wires as well. You will also need to mount the pressure regulator inside the locker and provide a gauge on the bottle-side of the regulator that you can use to check for leaks. Dwight
EscaleraF36-71Wakefield, RIOn Nov 7, 2008, at 9:00 PM, George Huffman wrote:Where the heck to people put the propane tanks on these boats. Formerly they were in a cockpit locker on the stbd side of the boatwith a vent hole overboard just above the waterline. This is lunacybecause the first time we were out we healed
very far over (OK I waspushing on her pretty good) and that locker just flooded! Lookingaround for alternatives but no need to reinvent the wheel. I’mthinking about putting an access hatch in the aft port corner of thepoop deck and building a locker into the aft cabin area to accommodatetwo twenty pound bottles. Ideas? George
Posted by michel.capel (michel.capel@…>)
George,
On my F44 the original propane locker in the transom was taken over by
a diesel generator. In the st.brd cockpitlocker, a sealed wooden box
was mounted just under the coaming. Tube exits are also gas tight with
lots of sealant. The door has 4 lock levers and a rubber gasket and
there is a tube running from the bottom of the box to the transom. In
this way, you don’t flood the locker when heeling. With me, it works
fine.
Best,
Michel
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “George Huffman”
<thatboatguy2@…> wrote:
Where the heck to people put the propane tanks on these boats.
Formerly they were in a cockpit locker on the stbd side of the boat
with a vent hole overboard just above the waterline. This is lunacy
because the first time we were out we healed very far over (OK I was
pushing on her pretty good) and that locker just flooded! Looking
around for alternatives but no need to reinvent the wheel. I’m
thinking about putting an access hatch in the aft port corner of the
poop deck and building a locker into the aft cabin area to accommodate
two twenty pound bottles.
Ideas?
George
Posted by george huffman (thatboatguy2@…>)
Tube run to the transom… why didn’t I think of that! I can make what’s there work with that one little mod and making the locker a couple inches deeper. I think you just saved me a ton of trouble my friend. ThanksGeorge— On Sun, 11/9/08, michel.capel <michel.capel@…> wrote:From: michel.capel <michel.capel@…>Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Propane locker F 40 CK CCTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comDate: Sunday, November 9, 2008, 2:32 PM
George,
On my F44 the original propane locker in the transom was taken over by
a diesel generator. In the st.brd cockpitlocker, a sealed wooden box
was mounted just under the coaming. Tube exits are also gas tight with
lots of sealant. The door has 4 lock levers and a rubber gasket and
there is a tube running from the bottom of the box to the transom. In
this way, you don’t flood the locker when heeling. With me, it works
fine.
Best,
Michel
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com, “George Huffman”
<thatboatguy2@ …> wrote:
Where the heck to people put the propane tanks on these boats.
Formerly they were in a cockpit locker on the stbd side of the boat
with a vent hole overboard just above the waterline. This is lunacy
because the first time we were out we healed very far over (OK I was
pushing on her pretty good) and that locker just flooded! Looking
around for alternatives but no need to reinvent the wheel. I’m
thinking about putting an access hatch in the aft port corner of the
poop deck and building a locker into the aft cabin area to accommodate
two twenty pound bottles.
Ideas?
George
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Posted by michel.capel (michel.capel@…>)
You’re welcome George, and that’s what we convene here for, to help
each other, right? I got a load of good ideas from this website.
Best,
Michel
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, george huffman
<thatboatguy2@…> wrote:
Tube run to the transom… why didn’t I think of that! I can
make what’s there work with that one little mod and making the locker
a couple inches deeper. I think you just saved me a ton of trouble
my friend. Thanks
George
— On Sun, 11/9/08, michel.capel <michel.capel@…> wrote:
From: michel.capel <michel.capel@…>
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Propane locker F 40 CK CC
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 9, 2008, 2:32 PM
George,
On my F44 the original propane locker in the transom was taken over
by
a diesel generator. In the st.brd cockpitlocker, a sealed wooden
box
was mounted just under the coaming. Tube exits are also gas tight
with
lots of sealant. The door has 4 lock levers and a rubber gasket and
there is a tube running from the bottom of the box to the transom.
In
this way, you don’t flood the locker when heeling. With me, it
works
fine.
Best,
Michel
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com, “George Huffman”
<thatboatguy2@ …> wrote:
Where the heck to people put the propane tanks on these boats.
Formerly they were in a cockpit locker on the stbd side of the
boat
with a vent hole overboard just above the waterline. This is
lunacy
because the first time we were out we healed very far over (OK I
was
pushing on her pretty good) and that locker just flooded! Looking
around for alternatives but no need to reinvent the wheel. I’m
thinking about putting an access hatch in the aft port corner of
the
poop deck and building a locker into the aft cabin area to
accommodate
two twenty pound bottles.
Ideas?
George