Posted by Awakening Chi (Awakening.Chi@…>)
Our 33’ has Hood deck hatches and Fuller port lights ( hatches). The
Hood deck hatches are ss frames with ss mechanics and black plastic
interior handles. I obtained replacement parts from the Hood yacht
Systems, a branch of Bomar. Both Hood & Bomar parts and info are
available at www.Pompanette.com. Marty at 813-885-2182 has bee a great
help with Hood parts. She faxed me catalogue sheets and I was able to
determine exactly what pieces I needed, then order them from her. Parts
for the Fuller port lights can be purchased through Fuller site. The
replacement parts from Pompanette are not too expensive., with the
exception of the rubber gasket. I am still looking for an adhesive
that will securely attach rubber to rubber. All that I have tried gets
re-gooy in the heat.
Heather
L’Audace F-33
San Diego
freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com wrote:
There are 15 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
- haulouts, propellors, etc.
From: “lance_ryley” <lance_ryley@…> - Re: F45 geniker??
From: “sailorray4493” <ray.wolf@…> - RE: Re: F45 geniker??
From: “George E. Herchenroether” <g.herk@…> - hatch handle
From: Jerome Weinraub <zayde@…> - RE: Re: F45 geniker??
From: “George E. Herchenroether” <g.herk@…> - Re: Winch for F38 head sail
From: andre laviolette <andrelaviolette@…> - Re: hatch handle
From: “Alan Kusinitz” <akusinitz@…> - Re: hatch handle
From: Chuck Bates <c3g2b3@…> - Re: Worldwide Freedom Boat Swapping?
From: Jacqui MacConnell <jacimacc@…> - Re: hatch handle
From: Jerome Weinraub <zayde@…> - Re: hatch handle
From: “Alan Kusinitz” <akusinitz@…> - Re: hatch handle
From: Jerome Weinraub <zayde@…> - Re: Spinnaker Pole and Gunmount for sale
From: “bkl3666” <bkl3666@…> - Re: Max Prop for sale
From: “bkl3666” <bkl3666@…> - Re: Re: Max Prop for sale
From: Paul McFadden <pwhitmac@…>
Message: 1 Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 12:50:30 -0000
From: “lance_ryley” <lance_ryley@…>
Subject: haulouts, propellors, etc.
I just finished a haulout in Winthrop MA to do a little epoxy work and paint the bottom. It’s a testament to the previous owner of Bright Star that the bottom looked pretty fantastic after a power wash. The only area that was a concern was the propeller! It had barnacle growth on both sides of both blades.
I had realized on the honeymoon cruise that something wasn’t right, because at 3,000 rpm I could only push the old girl at about 4.5 knots. 3,500, which I hate going to, didn’t even add half a knot to that. I of course assumed the worst - galvanic corrosion of the prop, a missing blade, a giant bucket tied around the rudder post… but in truth, it was all about the extra cavitation created by the barnacles.
I relaunched last night and brought the boat back to Charlestown. at 2,000 rpm, the boat reached 5 kts, at 2,900 (my favorite cruising revs) 6 kts, and at 3,500 7 kts. I know this last speed because I used it to clear Logan’s active runway. I know, logically, that they must be approaching at a higher altitude than it looks, but it is extremely disconcerting to be in the channel, well outside the standoff bouys, and still feel hot, 25 mph jetwash gusts when they are landing.
In any case, Bright Star feels like a new boat with a new prop now. Just in time for my trip to Maine!
Cheers,
Lance
Message: 2 Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 13:07:51 -0000
From: “sailorray4493” <ray.wolf@…>
Subject: Re: F45 geniker??
Reed,
We have F 45 # 30, a 1991 model. In 1998 the previous owner modified the sail plan. We have a leisure furl roller furling boom, and a roller furling headsail (with two running back-stays). We also have a brand new never used spinaker that I hope to get rigged this summer.
We have two winches on the cockpit coaming, just aft of the helm. The angle of the sheets to the winches could be better, and on one side the winch handle hits the bimini brace. Both of which can be easily fixed. If you send me your e-mail address I will send you photos of the winch installation. We never had the self tending jib, so most likely do not know what we are missing. I like to have sheets to crank when tacking, it keeps me involved!!!
We bought our boat last fall. I too had concerns about the rig, as our plans will have us roaming as far south as S. America. Everything I could find says it is a stout rig, and not to worry, and I did a lot of research, talking to owners in the US and Europe. Having sailed it for 6 months, it is joy to handle, as we sail with only two people almost all of the time. My neighbor has a taswell 45, and it is a real struggle for the two of them to manage.
My only beefs with the boat are the lack of on-deck storage, and the limited size of the holding tanks. However, I have found that you can go below, lay down in that great aft cabin and dream up ways to manage the storage (I added a stainless steel arch to replace the small davits, and that has helped). The boat is all but perfect below decks. I modified our plumbing system, installing macerator’s to both holding tanks so I can pump the tanks out when offshore. I did not want to end every weekend looking for a pump out station that was working.
I have done a fair amount of work to our energy systems, let me know if you want details. The one constant that I have found is every person who works on the boat marvels over how well they were made, and how well all of the systems are put together.
Ray
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “rersk” <rersk@y…> wrote:
George,
I’m looking at the possibility of buying a 1991 F45.
Currently
my wife and I are sailing a Cape Dory 31 Cutter and have cruised
her
from Maine to the Bahamas. We’re looking to go farther and faster in more comfort. It seems to me that sail choices on the stock
F45
are limited, and I can see the good uses for a cruising spinnaker, but the boat doesn’t have sheet winches on the coaming. How do
you
sheet your geniker? Also you refer to enlarging the jib. Did you retain the camber spar? Mark Edwards showed us the boat, and he’s
a
very fast talker and a good salesman, so it’s hard to sort out the hype from reality. We’re bowled over by the excellence of the interior design, but the strange sail plan and relatively unprotected deck areas give us the willies. Any commentary would
be
greatly appreciated.
Thanks, Reed
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, "George E.
Herchenroether"
<g.herk@c…> wrote:
John
Run, don’t walk to North Sails and get one.
Ours has expanded our experience significantly. In Maine last
year, we used
it daily. Have a 1.5 ounce red white and blue sail. North
service was
perfect.
Our jib is enlarged by 1/3, so the halyard point for ours makes
our gennaker
somewhat larger than a stock F45. I also recommend that.
Installation is a no brainer. Using it requires several sets
and
douses to
get it right, but the performance is terrific.
We store it on deck in the super bag they supply. The snuffer
is
brilliant
in design and use.
George E. Herchenroether
4 Bush St
Newport, RI 02840
401.847.2028
401.338.5329 mobile
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Message: 3 Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 09:05:29 -0400
From: “George E. Herchenroether” <g.herk@…>
Subject: RE: Re: F45 geniker??
Agree pretty much with these comments. We mounted our winches aft of the coaming (see pic). The genniker sheet
passes through a turning block on deck to the winch and through a cam cleat
to the helm. Helmsman can easily blow the genniker from there if necessary.
On deck storage is little to none. Over the years we have learned how to
use the stbd lazerette efficiently and we carry less “in case of” stuff.
Considered the arch, but prefer the davits (Kato with crossbar). George E. Herchenroether
4 Bush St
Newport, RI 02840
401.847.2028
401.338.5329 mobile
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Message: 4 Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 10:01:29 -0400
From: Jerome Weinraub <zayde@…>
Subject: hatch handle
Somehow,I lost the outside portion of a hatch handle from my F33. Specifically,it is from an original hatch(? Fuller Brush?),and is the outside part,the round black button. If anyone has one to spare,I’d very much be interested in buying it. How it came adrift I cannot even guess. Thanks
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Message: 5 Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 09:08:17 -0400
From: “George E. Herchenroether” <g.herk@…>
Subject: RE: Re: F45 geniker??
One more comment on the mast.
About three years ago an F45 was under a bridge and the operator brought the
bridge down on the mast. The boat responded by going decks awash, but
otherwise popped out from under the bridge and the only damage was the mast
top instruments.
George E. Herchenroether
4 Bush St
Newport, RI 02840
401.847.2028
401.338.5329 mobile
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Message: 6 Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 10:24:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: andre laviolette <andrelaviolette@…>
Subject: Re: Winch for F38 head sail
John
Sorry, self tacking of a headsail where the foot is greater than J is just not possible. It could be automated however, a some cost. Does not seem practical. Perhaps, in order to get a larger headsail, a nose pole of some kind could be adapted, but with possible balance problems as one heads up to close hauled.
Andre.
John Moran <sv_major_38@…> wrote:
Andre,
Thank you for your reply, but do you know of self tacking a 155? Perhaps not a 155, I had a fine C & C 30, good racer with plenty of 1sts, but I am confused by the suggestion.
John
andre laviolette <andrelaviolette@…> wrote:
John M.
You can have a roller furling jib and it can also be self tacking. Works very well. You would only need one small winch. See how they rig a soling or a C & C, Mega 30.
Andre.
John Moran <sv_major_38@…> wrote:
Hello Fellow Freedom Enthusiasts:
I am adding a furling head sail (yes, in place of the self tacking jib), and need to add a couple of winches. I am wondering if anyone has a Barient 23, or there about, or a Lewmar 40 or equivalent, either one or a pair. They (it) must be self-tailing. I am in Annapolis Maryland and can trade locally if someone has something close or only one is available.
Smooth Sailing to All,
John
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Message: 7 Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 10:27:12 -0400
From: “Alan Kusinitz” <akusinitz@…>
Subject: Re: hatch handle
The ports on my F-33 and replacements and spare parts are available from fuller brush on their website under marine. (I think these are the best black resin/acrylic ports made - surprisingly… ) My original hatches were Bomar plastic/lexan and they still make them but may have changed the design. I think I still have one of the originals I removed and replaced. I can look to see what it has or send the whole hatch to you for parts if you like assuming these are what you have.
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Subject: [freedomyachts2003] hatch handle
Somehow,I lost the outside portion of a hatch handle from my F33. Specifically,it is from an original hatch(? Fuller Brush?),and is the outside part,the round black button. If anyone has one to spare,I’d very much be interested in buying it. How it came adrift I cannot even guess. Thanks
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Message: 8 Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:57:51 -0400
From: Chuck Bates <c3g2b3@…>
Subject: Re: hatch handle
There is a “Plan B” solution to the missing knob. Use 1/4-20 wing nut of either Stainless Steel or Nylon. Both are available from your local hardware store. Its not elegant but it works.
Chuck
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Somehow,I lost the outside portion of a hatch handle from my F33. Specifically,it is from an original hatch(? Fuller Brush?),and is the outside part,the round black button. If anyone has one to spare,I’d very much be interested in buying it. How it came adrift I cannot even guess. Thanks
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Message: 9 Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 10:05:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jacqui MacConnell <jacimacc@…>
Subject: Re: Worldwide Freedom Boat Swapping?
I have a Freedom 36/38 in Bellingham, WA State, at the
mouth of the San Juan and Gulf Islands. And a nice two
bedroom two bath condo with bay and Island views and
most high tech services and devices. Would consider
swapping out both for whatever, later in the Fall, or
better,
any season next year. Condo is in a rural village area
below old historic Fairhaven district. A yuppified but
fun
place. Boat is perennially in her slip (we don’t haul
them
out here on the left coast, for the winter.) A swappee
could have both, or just one. Can cruise in most
seasons.
Maybe we could put up a swap list, or a
meet-your-other-Freedom-owners-fans around theglobe
list somewhere?
Captain Jac, SPARROW j.macconnell@…
— crwindy@… wrote:
I have a Freedom 36/38 on Narragansett Bay (near
Newport, then out to Martha’s Vineyard Nantucket
Cape Cod, possible Maine etc. which my wife and I
might consider trading for your farmhouse. Please
contact us off the board at crwindy@…
Craig Winderman and Catherine Chase
From: “Michel Capel” <mike_c_f35ck@…>
Date: 2005/07/12 Tue PM 12:30:27 EDT
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Worldwide Freedom
Boat Swapping?
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boat swapping group specifically for Freedoms. We could exchange our
boats and/or homes for a few weeks to be able to sail in a totally
different place. At this time, I have no boat to swap, but I do have a
nice 100 yr old Dutch farmhouse at 15 minutes driving from Amsterdam.
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Message: 10 Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 16:49:24 -0400
From: Jerome Weinraub <zayde@…>
Subject: Re: hatch handle
It is probably a Bomar. I have one new Bomar aluminum hatch.The other 3 are original. All I need is the handle shaft.If you have it I’d much appreciate it. The shafts,are good for the right or left handle. Again,much thanks. Please send me your email address,and I’ll send you whatever you want for the parts
Jerry----- Original Message ----- From: Alan Kusinitz To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] hatch handle
The ports on my F-33 and replacements and spare parts are available from fuller brush on their website under marine. (I think these are the best black resin/acrylic ports made - surprisingly… ) My original hatches were Bomar plastic/lexan and they still make them but may have changed the design. I think I still have one of the originals I removed and replaced. I can look to see what it has or send the whole hatch to you for parts if you like assuming these are what you have.
Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: Jerome Weinraub To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 10:01 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] hatch handle
Somehow,I lost the outside portion of a hatch handle from my F33. Specifically,it is from an original hatch(? Fuller Brush?),and is the outside part,the round black button. If anyone has one to spare,I’d very much be interested in buying it. How it came adrift I cannot even guess. Thanks
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Message: 11 Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 17:46:45 -0400
From: “Alan Kusinitz” <akusinitz@…>
Subject: Re: hatch handle
I’ll take a look for it this weekend. But I’m still not sure these are the same. Mine had screw knobs not handles??
Alan
----- Original Message ----- From: Jerome Weinraub To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] hatch handle
It is probably a Bomar. I have one new Bomar aluminum hatch.The other 3 are original. All I need is the handle shaft.If you have it I’d much appreciate it. The shafts,are good for the right or left handle. Again,much thanks. Please send me your email address,and I’ll send you whatever you want for the parts
Jerry----- Original Message ----- From: Alan Kusinitz To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] hatch handle
The ports on my F-33 and replacements and spare parts are available from fuller brush on their website under marine. (I think these are the best black resin/acrylic ports made - surprisingly… ) My original hatches were Bomar plastic/lexan and they still make them but may have changed the design. I think I still have one of the originals I removed and replaced. I can look to see what it has or send the whole hatch to you for parts if you like assuming these are what you have.
Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: Jerome Weinraub To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 10:01 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] hatch handle
Somehow,I lost the outside portion of a hatch handle from my F33. Specifically,it is from an original hatch(? Fuller Brush?),and is the outside part,the round black button. If anyone has one to spare,I’d very much be interested in buying it. How it came adrift I cannot even guess. Thanks
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Message: 12 Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 18:38:02 -0400
From: Jerome Weinraub <zayde@…>
Subject: Re: hatch handle
Are you talking of the deck hatches?
----- Original Message ----- From: Alan Kusinitz To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] hatch handle
I’ll take a look for it this weekend. But I’m still not sure these are the same. Mine had screw knobs not handles??
Alan
----- Original Message ----- From: Jerome Weinraub To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] hatch handle
It is probably a Bomar. I have one new Bomar aluminum hatch.The other 3 are original. All I need is the handle shaft.If you have it I’d much appreciate it. The shafts,are good for the right or left handle. Again,much thanks. Please send me your email address,and I’ll send you whatever you want for the parts
Jerry----- Original Message ----- From: Alan Kusinitz To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] hatch handle
The ports on my F-33 and replacements and spare parts are available from fuller brush on their website under marine. (I think these are the best black resin/acrylic ports made - surprisingly… ) My original hatches were Bomar plastic/lexan and they still make them but may have changed the design. I think I still have one of the originals I removed and replaced. I can look to see what it has or send the whole hatch to you for parts if you like assuming these are what you have.
Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: Jerome Weinraub To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 10:01 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] hatch handle
Somehow,I lost the outside portion of a hatch handle from my F33. Specifically,it is from an original hatch(? Fuller Brush?),and is the outside part,the round black button. If anyone has one to spare,I’d very much be interested in buying it. How it came adrift I cannot even guess. Thanks
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Message: 13 Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 01:37:50 -0000
From: “bkl3666” <bkl3666@…>
Subject: Re: Spinnaker Pole and Gunmount for sale
IF you have any interest in selling the whole package, pole, gunmount and spinnaker please let me know a price.
Thanks,
Brian
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Michael Bergeron” <mbergero@m…> wrote:
I still have the spinnaker and wouldn’t mind separating it. It is
in new
condition, as far as I can tell. I don’t think the prior owners
used it
much, if at all.
----- Original Message ----- From: “isleblues” <milo.militello@c…>
To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 11:36 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Spinnaker Pole and Gunmount for
sale
Hi.
Please advise if you would be interested in selling the spinnaker
without the pole and gunmount.
Thanks,
Milo
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Message: 14 Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 01:54:16 -0000
From: “bkl3666” <bkl3666@…>
Subject: Re: Max Prop for sale
Will it fit a 36 frredom?
Brian
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “pwhitmac” <pwhitmac@y…> wrote:
Am selling a 14" two blade Max Prop for a one (1) inch shaft,
standard
taper.
This prop has just been reconditioned by PYI and has not been in
the
water since. The blades appear like new, though the body is
slightly
pitted, it has been smoothed by PYI. The body is of the recent
type
that allows greasing while on the boat, underwater. The cost of
the
recondition was just under $400.00 US. Fred Hutchinson @ PYI
advised
me that he would ask $950.00 if he were selling it. A new prop of
the
same dimensions sells for $1420.00. I am asking $750.00 US.
Anyone interested can email me directly for photos, or whatever.
Fred
advised that he would verify the condition, and reconditioning of
the
prop. This is a superior prop especially if you race
PWM
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Message: 15 Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 21:24:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul McFadden <pwhitmac@…>
Subject: Re: Re: Max Prop for sale
Sorry, the prop has been sold. Probably best to contact PYI to see if a specific size would work on your 36.
PWM
bkl3666 <bkl3666@…> wrote:
Will it fit a 36 frredom?
Brian
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “pwhitmac” <pwhitmac@y…> wrote:
Am selling a 14" two blade Max Prop for a one (1) inch shaft,
standard
taper.
This prop has just been reconditioned by PYI and has not been in
the
water since. The blades appear like new, though the body is
slightly
pitted, it has been smoothed by PYI. The body is of the recent
type
that allows greasing while on the boat, underwater. The cost of
the
recondition was just under $400.00 US. Fred Hutchinson @ PYI
advised
me that he would ask $950.00 if he were selling it. A new prop of
the
same dimensions sells for $1420.00. I am asking $750.00 US.
Anyone interested can email me directly for photos, or whatever.
Fred
advised that he would verify the condition, and reconditioning of
the
prop. This is a superior prop especially if you race
PWM
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