Posted by Michael Gillin (michael_w_gillin@…>)
I have just purchased a 1984 Freedom 32 .
It was offered at sailing specialties
is their any instructions available for rigging,reefing, and spinaker
flying ?
does anyone know what the hull speed for this boat is ?
any information on this design would be helpful.
regards
captmg
Posted by Thomas Wales (twales@…>)
Congratulations captmg,
Welcome to the wonderful world of simple, stable, civilized sailing.
The '84 F32 is a very straightforward boat. You raise the
sails and them catch the wind. To tack, you just turn the boat.
One of the many helpful tips that I learned here was to
purchase a length of fuel line with an inside diameter just large
enough to fit over the forestay. You’ll want to cut it
longitudinally and slide it over the stay between the tack and the
first hank of the jib. Tape it up securely. What this does is keep
the jib off the deck when you lower the sail and out of the way for
docking, anchoring etc. A 2-foot length should be sufficient.
I think there are spinnaker directions posted on the
website. The first time setting up you have to read the directions
and pay attention. After that it’s much simpler. I rig mine up in
the spring and keep the forward end of the pole in the gun mount and
attach the other end to the portside railing.
I find the boat stands up to the wind pretty well and I’m
able to carry full sail up to 20 kts of wind. Reefing is simple with
the single line reefing let back to the cockpit. Just haul in the
reefing line as you release the main halyard.
I believe someone posted a freedom manual to the website,
too. You can download it and print it out. I did that and found it
very helpful.
Good luck and enjoy your new boat.
TW
F32 #20
Pemaquid, ME
theoretical hull speed is about 6.8 kts (figured by
multiplying 1.34 x square root of the water line length)-(And, Lance,
you thought I was just another pretty face, huh???)
At 06:31 PM 11/26/2007, you wrote:
I have just purchased a 1984 Freedom 32 .
It was offered at sailing specialties
is their any instructions available for rigging,reefing, and spinaker
flying ?
does anyone know what the hull speed for this boat is ?
any information on this design would be helpful.regards
captmg
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Hi Tom, I never heard of that trick before about the fuel line on the forstay. What is the diameter of the fuel line-2"? Do you leave the tack of the sail in it all the time? The sail surely is in the way of anchoring and the mud that comes up does a number on the sail. Thomas Wales <twales@…> wrote: Congratulations captmg,Welcome to the wonderful world of
simple, stable, civilized sailing.The '84 F32 is a very straightforward boat. You raise the sails and them catch the wind. To tack, you just turn the boat.One of the many helpful tips that I learned here was to purchase a length of fuel line with an inside diameter just large enough to fit over the forestay. You’ll want to cut it longitudinally and slide it over the stay between the tack and the first hank of the jib. Tape it up securely. What this does is keep the jib off the deck when you lower the sail and out of the way for docking, anchoring etc. A 2-foot length should be sufficient.I think there are spinnaker directions posted on the website. The first time setting up you have to read the directions and pay attention. After that it’s much simpler. I rig mine up in the spring and keep the forward end of the pole in the gun mount and attach the other end to the portside railing.I find the boat stands up to the
wind pretty well and I’m able to carry full sail up to 20 kts of wind. Reefing is simple with the single line reefing let back to the cockpit. Just haul in the reefing line as you release the main halyard.I believe someone posted a freedom manual to the website, too. You can download it and print it out. I did that and found it very helpful.Good luck and enjoy your new boat.TWF32 #20Pemaquid, MEtheoretical hull speed is about 6.8 kts (figured by multiplying 1.34 x square root of the water line length)-(And, Lance, you thought I was just another pretty face, huh???)At 06:31 PM 11/26/2007, you wrote:>I have just purchased a 1984 Freedom 32 .>It was offered at sailing specialties>is their any instructions available for rigging,reefing, and spinaker>flying ?>does anyone know what the hull speed for this boat is ?>any information on this design would be
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Posted by Thomas Wales (twales@…>)
Hi Sward,
I think I bought fuel line that had an ID of 5/16". I do
leave the tack attached but I move the clew over to the portside when
at anchor or mooring. You do have to be careful with mud on the
chain and anchor when retrieving. You could, I suppose untack the
jib. I like having it at mid thigh level as it’s easier to furl and
cover as well as staying out of the way. I thought you told me about
the fuel line. Must have been another member. Anyway, it’s a great
tip, so thanks to whomever…
Best,
TW
At 04:44 PM 11/27/2007, you wrote:
Hi Tom,
I never heard of that trick before about the fuel line on the
forstay. What is the diameter of the fuel line-2"? Do you leave
the tack of the sail in it all the time? The sail surely is in the
way of anchoring and the mud that comes up does a number on the sail.Thomas Wales <twales@…> wrote:
Congratulations captmg,
Welcome to the wonderful world of simple, stable, civilized sailing.
The '84 F32 is a very straightforward boat. You raise the
sails and them catch the wind. To tack, you just turn the boat.
One of the many helpful tips that I learned here was to
purchase a length of fuel line with an inside diameter just large
enough to fit over the forestay. You’ll want to cut it
longitudinally and slide it over the stay between the tack and the
first hank of the jib. Tape it up securely. What this does is keep
the jib off the deck when you lower the sail and out of the way for
docking, anchoring etc. A 2-foot length should be sufficient.
I think there are spinnaker directions posted on the
website. The first time setting up you have to read the directions
and pay attention. After that it’s much simpler. I rig mine up in
the spring and keep the forward end of the pole in the gun mount and
attach the other end to the portside railing.
I find the boat stands up to the wind pretty well and I’m
able to carry full sail up to 20 kts of wind. Reefing is simple with
the single line reefing let back to the cockpit. Just haul in the
reefing line as you release the main halyard.
I believe someone posted a freedom manual to the website,
too. You can download it and print it out. I did that and found it
very helpful.
Good luck and enjoy your new boat.
TW
F32 #20
Pemaquid, ME
theoretical hull speed is about 6.8 kts (figured by
multiplying 1.34 x square root of the water line length)-(And, Lance,
you thought I was just another pretty face, huh???)At 06:31 PM 11/26/2007, you wrote:
I have just purchased a 1984 Freedom 32 .
It was offered at sailing specialties
is their any instructions available for rigging,reefing, and spinaker
flying ?
does anyone know what the hull speed for this boat is ?
any information on this design would be helpful.regards
captmg
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Posted by MICHAEL W GILLIN (michael_w_gillin@…>)
Thanks Tom ; The reefing lines were not connected to the main. Is it fairly easy to rig these and are there any instructions to do so ?
I appreciate the information.
Regards
Michael Michael W GillinHome- 203-334-7455Mobile-203-209-8889email-michael_w_gillin@…email-michael_w_gillin@…gmail-sailormg@…
----- Original Message ----From: Thomas Wales <twales@…>To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 3:24:36 PMSubject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] RE- Hoyt Designed Freedom 32
Congratulations captmg,Welcome to the wonderful world of simple, stable, civilized sailing.The '84 F32 is a very straightforward boat. You raise the sails and them catch the wind. To tack, you just turn the boat.One of the many helpful tips that I learned here was to purchase a length of fuel line with an inside diameter just large enough to fit over the forestay. You’ll want to cut it longitudinally and slide it over the stay between the tack and the first hank of the jib. Tape it up securely. What this does is keep the jib off the deck when you lower the sail and out of the way for docking, anchoring etc. A 2-foot length should be sufficient.I think there are spinnaker directions posted on the website. The first time setting up you have to read the directions and pay attention. After that it’s much simpler. I rig mine up in the spring and keep the forward end of the pole in the gun mount and
attach the other end to the portside railing.I find the boat stands up to the wind pretty well and I’m able to carry full sail up to 20 kts of wind. Reefing is simple with the single line reefing let back to the cockpit. Just haul in the reefing line as you release the main halyard.I believe someone posted a freedom manual to the website, too. You can download it and print it out. I did that and found it very helpful.Good luck and enjoy your new boat.TWF32 #20Pemaquid, MEtheoretical hull speed is about 6.8 kts (figured by multiplying 1.34 x square root of the water line length)-(And, Lance, you thought I was just another pretty face, huh???)At 06:31 PM 11/26/2007, you wrote:>I have just purchased a 1984 Freedom 32 .>It was offered at sailing specialties>is their any instructions available for rigging,reefing, and spinaker>flying ?>does anyone know
what the hull speed for this boat is ?>any information on this design would be helpful.>>regards>>captmg>>>>No virus found in this incoming message.>Checked by AVG Free Edition.>Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.8/1154 - Release Date: >11/27/2007 11:40 AM-- No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.8/1154 - Release Date: 11/27/2007 11:40 AM
Posted by Militello, Milo (milo.militello@…>)
Hi captmg, and congratulations on your F32.
I own a 1985 Hoyt F32 and love it … my two cents worth of
tips:
When both water tanks are filled, the boat will list to starboard; try
to keep heavy things such as tool boxes and such on the port side.
If your bilge pump goes off and you can’t figure out where the
water is coming from, check your rudder post stuffing box (you’ll have to
crawl into the cockpit lazerette).
When trying to sail upwind, FOOT FOOT FOOT … don’t try to
sail with standard rig boats; ain’t happening.
In the Spring before putting the main sail slugs into the track,
liberally dose each and every slug with lots of McLube Sailkote.
And the same goes for the spinnaker yard and the inside of the gun
mount tube; in fact, you should spray lots of it on the mouth of your spinnaker
tube (bag) also.
As far as the reefing lines, you can try to run a thin electrician’s
snake into the boom from the mast side and then attach a retrieving line at the
aft end to pull your reefing line through. I don’t believe the F32
has a “Magic Box” inside the boom so as long as you keep the snake
from twirling around the outhaul it should work. Probably a lot easier
said than done, but it should work.
Make sure your starboard water tank air venting hose is NOT sitting in
your bilge as it can act like a siphon and suck bilge water into your fresh
water tank. I have mine tied up to the underside of the floor so it can’t
fall into the bilge.
Don’t over-tension the full battens in the main; the draft should
be about 2/3 in from the leach; if the sail is too flat, you’ll find it
will take longer getting up boat speed.
Conversely, I’ve found the jib to have it’s best shape when
pulled back to the last or 2nd to last pin in the camber spar, but
that may be a sign of me needing new sails.
The rudder is big and will act like a brake if you over-steer …
don’t over-steer!; and tack like a 12 Meter, nice rounded tacks; if you
try to tack like a Laser you’ll have no speed coming out of the tack.
Try to have different color lines for your spinnaker controls.
The F32 will be a real spaghetti mess when all lines are being used.
Defender has some great foam can holders (“coozies”) that
mount perfectly and temporarily to the vertical Edson rails on the cockpit
pedestal. I strongly recommend them.
Last but not least, put a cocktail in one of the cozies and enjoy your
new boat.
Milo
“island blues”
‘85 Hoyt F32
From:
freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of MICHAEL W GILLIN
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007
5:55 PM
To:
freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003]
RE- Hoyt Designed Freedom 32
Thanks Tom ; The reefing lines were not connected to the main. Is
it fairly easy to rig these and are there any instructions to do so ?
I appreciate the information.
\
Regards
\
Michael
Michael W Gillin
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Mobile-203-209-8889
email-michael_w_gillin@snet.net
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From: Thomas Wales <twales@adelphia.net>
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 3:24:36 PM
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] RE- Hoyt Designed Freedom 32
Congratulations captmg,
Welcome to the wonderful world of simple, stable, civilized sailing.
The '84 F32 is a very straightforward boat. You raise the
sails and them catch the wind. To tack, you just turn the boat.
One of the many helpful tips that I learned here was to
purchase a length of fuel line with an inside diameter just large
enough to fit over the forestay. You’ll want to cut it
longitudinally and slide it over the stay between the tack and the
first hank of the jib. Tape it up securely. What this does is keep
the jib off the deck when you lower the sail and out of the way for
docking, anchoring etc. A 2-foot length should be sufficient.
I think there are spinnaker directions posted on the
website. The first time setting up you have to read the directions
and pay attention. After that it’s much simpler. I rig mine up in
the spring and keep the forward end of the pole in the gun mount and
attach the other end to the portside railing.
I find the boat stands up to the wind pretty well and I’m
able to carry full sail up to 20 kts of wind. Reefing is simple with
the single line reefing let back to the cockpit. Just haul in the
reefing line as you release the main halyard.
I believe someone posted a freedom manual to the website,
too. You can download it and print it out. I did that and found it
very helpful.
Good luck and enjoy your new boat.
TW
F32 #20
Pemaquid, ME
theoretical hull speed is about 6.8 kts (figured by
multiplying 1.34 x square root of the water line length)-(And, Lance,
you thought I was just another pretty face, huh???)
At 06:31 PM 11/26/2007, you wrote:
I have just purchased a 1984 Freedom 32 .
It was offered at sailing specialties
is their any instructions available for rigging,reefing, and spinaker
flying ?
does anyone know what the hull speed for this boat is ?
any information on this design would be helpful.regards
captmg
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Posted by MICHAEL W GILLIN (michael_w_gillin@…>)
Hi Milo ; Thanks for the great advice. I’m sure I will have additional questions.
I sailed a Cheoy Lee Offshore 40 for 18 years and this will be a pleasant experience to have main and jib self tending.
I think the construction is superb and other than some delam near the aft port light TPI built an extremely tight boat.
" Beyond the Sea " will be sailing out of Slyvan Point Yacht Club in Branford CT come spring.
Have a great holiday and I appreciate any information you can provide.
Regards
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----- Original Message ----From: “Militello, Milo” <milo.militello@…>To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 5:36:09 PMSubject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] RE- Hoyt Designed Freedom 32
Hi captmg, and congratulations on your F32.
I own a 1985 Hoyt F32 and love it … my two cents worth of tips:
When both water tanks are filled, the boat will list to starboard; try to keep heavy things such as tool boxes and such on the port side.
If your bilge pump goes off and you can’t figure out where the water is coming from, check your rudder post stuffing box (you’ll have to crawl into the cockpit lazerette).
When trying to sail upwind, FOOT FOOT FOOT … don’t try to sail with standard rig boats; ain’t happening.
In the Spring before putting the main sail slugs into the track, liberally dose each and every slug with lots of McLube Sailkote.
And the same goes for the spinnaker yard and the inside of the gun mount tube; in fact, you should spray lots of it on the mouth of your spinnaker tube (bag) also.
As far as the reefing lines, you can try to run a thin electrician’s snake into the boom from the mast side and then attach a retrieving line at the aft end to pull your reefing line through. I don’t believe the F32 has a “Magic Box” inside the boom so as long as you keep the snake from twirling around the outhaul it should work. Probably a lot easier said than done, but it should work.
Make sure your starboard water tank air venting hose is NOT sitting in your bilge as it can act like a siphon and suck bilge water into your fresh water tank. I have mine tied up to the underside of the floor so it can’t fall into the bilge.
Don’t over-tension the full battens in the main; the draft should be about 2/3 in from the leach; if the sail is too flat, you’ll find it will take longer getting up boat speed.
Conversely, I’ve found the jib to have it’s best shape when pulled back to the last or 2nd to last pin in the camber spar, but that may be a sign of me needing new sails.
The rudder is big and will act like a brake if you over-steer … don’t over-steer!; and tack like a 12 Meter, nice rounded tacks; if you try to tack like a Laser you’ll have no speed coming out of the tack.
Try to have different color lines for your spinnaker controls. The F32 will be a real spaghetti mess when all lines are being used.
Defender has some great foam can holders (“coozies”) that mount perfectly and temporarily to the vertical Edson rails on the cockpit pedestal. I strongly recommend them.
Last but not least, put a cocktail in one of the cozies and enjoy your new boat.
Milo
“island blues”
‘85 Hoyt F32
From: freedomyachts2003@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:freedomyach ts2003@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of MICHAEL W GILLINSent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 5:55 PMTo: freedomyachts2003@ yahoogroups. comSubject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] RE- Hoyt Designed Freedom 32
Thanks Tom ; The reefing lines were not connected to the main. Is it fairly easy to rig these and are there any instructions to do so ?
I appreciate the information.
Regards
Michael
Michael W GillinHome- 203-334-7455Mobile-203-209- 8889email-michael_ w_gillin@ snet.netemail-michael_ w_gillin@ hotmail.comgmail-sailormg@ gmail.com
----- Original Message ----From: Thomas Wales <twales@adelphia. net>To: freedomyachts2003@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 3:24:36 PMSubject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] RE- Hoyt Designed Freedom 32
Congratulations captmg,Welcome to the wonderful world of simple, stable, civilized sailing.The '84 F32 is a very straightforward boat. You raise the sails and them catch the wind. To tack, you just turn the boat.One of the many helpful tips that I learned here was to purchase a length of fuel line with an inside diameter just large enough to fit over the forestay. You’ll want to cut it longitudinally and slide it over the stay between the tack and the first hank of the jib. Tape it up securely. What this does is keep the jib off the deck when you lower the sail and out of the way for docking, anchoring etc. A 2-foot length should be sufficient.I think there are spinnaker directions posted on the website. The first time setting up you have to read the directions and pay attention. After that it’s much simpler. I rig mine up in the
spring and keep the forward end of the pole in the gun mount and attach the other end to the portside railing.I find the boat stands up to the wind pretty well and I’m able to carry full sail up to 20 kts of wind. Reefing is simple with the single line reefing let back to the cockpit. Just haul in the reefing line as you release the main halyard.I believe someone posted a freedom manual to the website, too. You can download it and print it out. I did that and found it very helpful.Good luck and enjoy your new boat.TWF32 #20Pemaquid , MEtheoretical hull speed is about 6.8 kts (figured by multiplying 1.34 x square root of the water line length)-(And, Lance, you thought I was just another pretty face, huh???)At 06:31 PM 11/26/2007, you wrote:>I have just purchased a 1984 Freedom 32 .>It was offered at sailing specialties>is their any instructions available for
rigging,reefing, and spinaker>flying ?>does anyone know what the hull speed for this boat is ?>any information on this design would be helpful.>>regards>>captmg>>>>No virus found in this incoming message.>Checked by AVG Free Edition.>Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.8/1154 - Release Date: >11/27/2007 11:40 AM-- No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.8/1154 - Release Date: 11/27/2007 11:40 AM
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Posted by Thomas Wales (twales@…>)
Hi Michael,
The single line reefing is set up as follows: I tie a
bowline around my boom toward the end, then the line goes up through
the cringle at the reef point at the end of the sail, down around the
sheave at the end of the boom, through the boom, out the front, up
through a “hook block” that hooks through the forward cringle, down
to another block at the base of the mast, through a line organizer
and then through a stopper in the cockpit. It’s intuitive if you
think it out. The hardest part will be getting the line through the
length of the boom. You could borrow a plumbers snake perhaps.
Good luck.
TW
At 05:54 PM 11/27/2007, you wrote:
Thanks Tom ; The reefing lines were not connected to the main. Is it
fairly easy to rig these and are there any instructions to do so ?
I appreciate the information.Regards
Michael
Michael W Gillin
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From: Thomas Wales <twales@…>
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 3:24:36 PM
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] RE- Hoyt Designed Freedom 32Congratulations captmg,
Welcome to the wonderful world of simple, stable, civilized sailing.
The '84 F32 is a very straightforward boat. You raise the
sails and them catch the wind. To tack, you just turn the boat.
One of the many helpful tips that I learned here was to
purchase a length of fuel line with an inside diameter just large
enough to fit over the forestay. You’ll want to cut it
longitudinally and slide it over the stay between the tack and the
first hank of the jib. Tape it up securely. What this does is keep
the jib off the deck when you lower the sail and out of the way for
docking, anchoring etc. A 2-foot length should be sufficient.
I think there are spinnaker directions posted on the
website. The first time setting up you have to read the directions
and pay attention. After that it’s much simpler. I rig mine up in
the spring and keep the forward end of the pole in the gun mount and
attach the other end to the portside railing.
I find the boat stands up to the wind pretty well and I’m
able to carry full sail up to 20 kts of wind. Reefing is simple with
the single line reefing let back to the cockpit. Just haul in the
reefing line as you release the main halyard.
I believe someone posted a freedom manual to the website,
too. You can download it and print it out. I did that and found it
very helpful.
Good luck and enjoy your new boat.
TW
F32 #20
Pemaquid, ME
theoretical hull speed is about 6.8 kts (figured by
multiplying 1.34 x square root of the water line length)-(And, Lance,
you thought I was just another pretty face, huh???)At 06:31 PM 11/26/2007, you wrote:
I have just purchased a 1984 Freedom 32 .
It was offered at sailing specialties
is their any instructions available for rigging,reefing, and spinaker
flying ?
does anyone know what the hull speed for this boat is ?
any information on this design would be helpful.regards
captmg
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