Re: Outboard - solar panels

Posted by j32080 (j32080@…>)

“Blue Merle” (photos: http://www.freedom21.info/bluemerle.htm) had a
6HP 2-stroke long shaft Johnson with an external fuel tank. It also
had a small generator/alternator built into the engine. I ran a 2-
pole wire to the fuel tank locker with plug. The generator didn’t
produce much output, but at least I had something while I was
motoring – which with the Freedom 21, wasn’t that often.

To keep the (2) batteries topped off while it sat on the mooring
during the week, I used a flexible solar panel from Uni-Solar (no
longer making them). Photo:
http://www.freedom21.info/images/bluemerle/BMHatchVentAndSolarPanel.j
pg
This solar charger was more than enough to replenish what was used.

The electrical draw was principally the electronics (depth, speed,
LORAN) with some interior lighting (see photos) during the evening.
An occasional anchor light over night. The two deep cycle batteries
were more than enough.

As for engine size, 4HP is probably a bit too small unless yo’re a
racer and just need it to get you to the starting line and back.
8HP is probably too much. I found that the 6HP (it was circa 1984
and weighed 60-65 pounds) was more than adequate. In the Boston
area, we have plenty of tidal current. I did extensive cruising
(2500+ miles) with that boat over 7 years and never felt that I
needed more.

-John




— In freedom21@yahoogroups.com, “Doug Chace” <ch47_av8r@…> wrote:

So, the 9.9 4stroke Yamaha that came with my F21 will be too big.
Guess I’ll need to sell it. I’ve got a 4hp 2 stroke, but will
need
to keep my “house” batteries charged. How many solar panels do
y’all
use?

— In freedom21@yahoogroups.com, “Charlie L.” <clivaday@> wrote:

Try to not put too much weight on the stern. It will adversly
affect
the sailing performance of the F21, and will necessitate using
plugs in
the cockpit drains at all times. Being a racer, and never a
cruiser, I
used a 2hp/4 stroke, long shaft, 28 pound Honda on each of my 2
F21s.
This is not enough hp for most sailors; but whatever size OB you
get-
keep the weight down, and definitely get the long shaft. Too
much
weight will also give your boat a permanent “tilt” to the side
on
which
the motor is mounted. Good Luck. Charlie

— In freedom21@yahoogroups.com, “cbhma” <cbh@> wrote:

I need to get a new outboard motor for my Freedom 21–I’m
looking
at
getting more
horsepower (so I don’t take so long to motor out of the marina
and
the harbor). I’m
considering an 8hp, 2 stroke motor. Only thing I’m not sure
of
is
whether it should be long
shaft or can I get by with a short shaft. Any thoughts?

Posted by esx123 (scott_shuler@…>)
My f21 had a 6 hp four stroke Nissan (Tohatsu) which you can get with an alternator.j32080 <j32080@…> wrote: “Blue Merle” (photos: http://www.freedom21.info/bluemerle.htm) had a 6HP 2-stroke long shaft Johnson with an external fuel tank. It also had a small generator/alternator built into the engine. I ran a 2-pole wire to the fuel tank locker with plug. The generator didn’t produce much output, but at least I had something while I was
motoring – which with the Freedom 21, wasn’t that often.To keep the (2) batteries topped off while it sat on the mooring during the week, I used a flexible solar panel from Uni-Solar (no longer making them). Photo: http://www.freedom21.info/images/bluemerle/BMHatchVentAndSolarPanel.jpgThis solar charger was more than enough to replenish what was used.The electrical draw was principally the electronics (depth, speed, LORAN) with some interior lighting (see photos) during the evening. An occasional anchor light over night. The two deep cycle batteries were more than enough.As for engine size, 4HP is probably a bit too small unless yo’re a racer and just need it to get you to the starting line and back. 8HP is probably too much. I found that the 6HP (it was circa 1984 and weighed 60-65 pounds) was
more than adequate. In the Boston area, we have plenty of tidal current. I did extensive cruising (2500+ miles) with that boat over 7 years and never felt that I needed more.-John— In freedom21@yahoogroups.com, “Doug Chace” <ch47_av8r@…> wrote:>> So, the 9.9 4stroke Yamaha that came with my F21 will be too big. > Guess I’ll need to sell it. I’ve got a 4hp 2 stroke, but will need > to keep my “house” batteries charged. How many solar panels do y’all > use?> > — In freedom21@yahoogroups.com, “Charlie L.” <clivaday@> wrote:> >> > Try to not put too much weight on the stern. It will adversly > affect > > the sailing performance of the F21, and will necessitate using > plugs in > > the cockpit drains at all
times. Being a racer, and never a > cruiser, I > > used a 2hp/4 stroke, long shaft, 28 pound Honda on each of my 2 > F21s. > > This is not enough hp for most sailors; but whatever size OB you > get-> > keep the weight down, and definitely get the long shaft. Too much > > weight will also give your boat a permanent “tilt” to the side on > which > > the motor is mounted. Good Luck. Charlie> > > > > > > > > > — In freedom21@yahoogroups.com, “cbhma” <cbh@> wrote:> > >> > > I need to get a new outboard motor for my Freedom 21–I’m looking > at > > getting more > > > horsepower (so I don’t take so long to motor out of the marina > and > > the harbor). I’m > > > considering an 8hp, 2 stroke motor.
Only thing I’m not sure of > is > > whether it should be long > > > shaft or can I get by with a short shaft. Any thoughts?> > >> >>Laissez les bons temps rouler
Now that’s room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit.

Posted by Clyde Wisner (clydewis@…>)

I have a 4hp, 4 stroke yamaha long shaft, which nets about 5 knts. I
got mine with a 6hp sailmaster which I think was original(1984) but
required tinkering every spring. What ever you choose, I sure wish I
had gotten an electric start. There is nothing like just pushing the
start button, when drifting toward the seawall. Clyde

esx123 wrote:


My f21 had a 6 hp four stroke Nissan (Tohatsu) which you can get
with an alternator.

j32080 <j32080@yahoo.com> wrote:


“Blue Merle” (photos: http://www.freedom21.info/bluemerle.htm)
had a
6HP 2-stroke long shaft Johnson with an external fuel tank. It also
had a small generator/alternator built into the engine. I ran a 2-
pole wire to the fuel tank locker with plug. The generator didn’t
produce much output, but at least I had something while I was
motoring – which with the Freedom 21, wasn’t that often.








\