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Posted by jackcarles (johncarles@…>)
Has anyone found a way to make the head and waste through hulls more
accessible? thanks
Posted by Jeff Baxter (jeff.baxter@…>)
My 32 has a cutout (covered by a wood panel) directly behind the head the helps to make the waste thru-hull accessible.
Jeff
Sir Lipso
Hoyt 32, 1985
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jackcarlesSent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 7:06 AMTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comSubject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] waster through hulls: Hoyt 32
Has anyone found a way to make the head and waste through hulls moreaccessible? thanks
Posted by jsforgey@… (jsforgey@…)
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Posted by rick_simonds (rick_simonds@…>)
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “jackcarles”
<johncarles@…> wrote:
Has anyone found a way to make the head and waste through hulls more
accessible? thanks
I installed a 10" or 12" screw-out inspection port on the back wall of
the head compartment, just to port of the head itself, about 6" above
the raised floor area that the head attaches to. I can unscrew it and
reach in to both thru-hulls.
Perfect? No.
It sure beats crawling into the cockpit locker, though.
Doing it again I’d look for one that is easier to open than the screw-
out (It can get stuck sometimes.)
Posted by Thomas Wales (twales@…>)
Jack,
Buy a wetsuit.
TW
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Posted by katorpus (jrb@…>)
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “rick_simonds”
<rick_simonds@…> wrote:
I installed a 10" or 12" screw-out inspection port on the back
wall .Doing it again I’d look for one that is easier to open than the
screw-
out (It can get stuck sometimes.)
White plastic “slam-hatches” come in a variety of sizes. The
rectangular ones are bound to be easier to install (cut-out wise)
than the round inspection port.
These are available at places like “Boaters’ World” and places that
cater to the “bass boat crowd”…some are a lot uglier than others.
Before you cut (after carefully locating the hatch position), cover
the entire area with several of layers of masking tape, then mark the
cutout location on the masking tape, drill the corners with a large
diameter paddle bit and cut the straight lines with a jigsaw on low
speed)
The radiused corners will prevent stress cracks in the bulkhead, the
masking tape will keep the “shoe” of the saw from marking the
bulkhead, and will help to keep the blade from popping chunks of
gelcoat loose along the cut line.
Use a fairly fine toothed blade with minimal “set” to the teeth. Plan
on using several. This will make the “neatest” cut.
If you tape one edge of the “open end” of a plastic trashbag (large)
along the bulkhead below the cutting area, you will contain most of
the debris that would otherwise end up on the near-side of the
cutting process.
If you can access the area behind, an appropriately sized cardboard
box will catch a lot of what would fall there as well.
I’m assuming you’re cutting through fiberglass here…that’s what the
guts of my head compartment are made of.
Posted by Larry Kraus (kracherlandl@…>)
Sorry to switch gears but this is the only way I know how to get into
the system.
Does anyone have experience with Optima batteries? Are they worth the
added expense? How about life? In case I’m spelling it wrong, these are
the spiral wound batteries using the high purity lead. Their marketing
pitch is that they are highly efficient and long lasting. I guess,
because of the high purity lead, they don’t “sulphate” as easily.
Any thoughts out there?
LK
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things. The time is coming when I will need to do it myself…so I
have been watching with keen anticipation.Scott
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Posted by John Carles (johncarles@…>)
thanks; i assume the screw feature makes it waterproof.rick_simonds <rick_simonds@…> wrote: — In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “jackcarles” <johncarles@…> wrote: > > Has anyone found a way to make the head and waste through hulls more > accessible? thanks > I installed a 10" or 12" screw-out inspection port on the back wall of the head compartment, just to port of the head itself, about 6" above the raised floor
area that the head attaches to. I can unscrew it and reach in to both thru-hulls. Perfect? No. It sure beats crawling into the cockpit locker, though. Doing it again I’d look for one that is easier to open than the screw- out (It can get stuck sometimes.)
Posted by Alan Kusinitz (akusinitz@…>)
I have an optima for a starting battery.
For this use its ideal. Much lower weight for higher CCA.
I’m considering using their deep
cycle versions when I replace my gel cells (not immediate need).
There are more tradeoffs for this.
The pluses are:
- no battery box needed since even if you
puncture them they won’t leak. - They can be screwed down through their
base (but personally I wouldn’t rely on that unless I had a way to thru
bolt). - theoretically their heavier weight means
purer lead and longer life.
The negatives are:
more
weight per amp/hour then lifelines or similar.
The way
they are configured they take up more space. (In my case they actually fit
better in part of the bilge then lifelines but overall volume used is more)
Higher
cost.
I spoke with a distributer that sells
several lines of batteries including lifelines and optimas. He said in terms of
warranty returns he doesn’t see a difference. As for ultimate longevity
who knows.
Anyway that’s all I know.
Alan F-33 Hull #51 SEAPR
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Kraus
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007
4:32 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup]
waster through hulls: Hoyt 32
Sorry to switch gears but this is the only way I know
how to get into
the system.
Does anyone have experience with Optima batteries? Are they worth the
added expense? How about life? In case I’m spelling it wrong, these are
the spiral wound batteries using the high purity lead. Their marketing
pitch is that they are highly efficient and long lasting. I guess,
because of the high purity lead, they don’t “sulphate” as easily.
Any thoughts out there?
LK
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things. The time is coming when I will need to do it myself…so I
have been watching with keen anticipation.Scott
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Posted by rick_simonds (rick_simonds@…>)
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, John Carles <johncarles@…>
wrote:
thanks; i assume the screw feature makes it waterproof.
It does, though in this application that doesn’t get you much. With a
non-waterproof one, any leaks from using the shower, or whatever, would
be minimal. If this were a watertight bulkhead between 2 compartments
it would be appropriate, but it isn’t. And if you have that much water
in the boat, you’re having much bigger problems than a leak into the
head…
Using a screw-out is OK but knowing what I know now I’d use a “slam
hatch” (after looking carefully that there’s room to swing it open.) It
would be better, I think, but for me, replacing what I have now is a
job that I just know that I’ll simply never get to.
Posted by Larry Kraus (kracherlandl@…>)
Thanks for your thoughts.
Larry
Alan Kusinitz wrote:
I have an optima for a starting battery. For this use its ideal. Much
lower weight for higher CCA.I’m considering using their deep cycle versions when I replace my gel
cells (not immediate need).There are more tradeoffs for this.
The pluses are:
no battery box needed since even if you puncture them they won’t leak.
They can be screwed down through their base (but personally I
wouldn’t rely on that unless I had a way to thru bolt).theoretically their heavier weight means purer lead and longer life.
The negatives are:
more weight per amp/hour then lifelines or similar.
The way they are configured they take up more space. (In my case
they actually fit better in part of the bilge then lifelines but
overall volume used is more)Higher cost.
I spoke with a distributer that sells several lines of batteries
including lifelines and optimas. He said in terms of warranty returns
he doesn’t see a difference. As for ultimate longevity who knows.Anyway that’s all I know.
Alan F-33 Hull #51 SEAPR
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Larry Kraus
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 4:32 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] waster through hulls: Hoyt 32Sorry to switch gears but this is the only way I know how to get into
the system.Does anyone have experience with Optima batteries? Are they worth the
added expense? How about life? In case I’m spelling it wrong, these are
the spiral wound batteries using the high purity lead. Their marketing
pitch is that they are highly efficient and long lasting. I guess,
because of the high purity lead, they don’t “sulphate” as easily.Any thoughts out there?
LK
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things. The time is coming when I will need to do it myself…so I
have been watching with keen anticipation.Scott
/Girlfriend/
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Posted by Sward (swardfullsail@…>)
I got a teak door front about 12" X 12" and installed it behind-above the head. It allows me access to the Y Valve, thru hulls and anything else that’s down deep there without climbing in. It works out well. Big enough to see in and reach in. rick_simonds <rick_simonds@…> wrote: — In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, John Carles <johncarles@…> wrote:>> thanks; i assume the screw
feature makes it waterproof.> It does, though in this application that doesn’t get you much. With a non-waterproof one, any leaks from using the shower, or whatever, would be minimal. If this were a watertight bulkhead between 2 compartments it would be appropriate, but it isn’t. And if you have that much water in the boat, you’re having much bigger problems than a leak into the head…Using a screw-out is OK but knowing what I know now I’d use a “slam hatch” (after looking carefully that there’s room to swing it open.) It would be better, I think, but for me, replacing what I have now is a job that I just know that I’ll simply never get to.“Life is a Reach, then you Jibe” SWARD
Posted by John Carles (johncarles@…>)
thanks.Sward <swardfullsail@…> wrote: I got a teak door front about 12" X 12" and installed it behind-above the head. It allows me access to the Y Valve, thru hulls and anything else that’s down deep there without climbing in. It works out well. Big enough to see in and reach in. rick_simonds <rick_simonds@yahoo.com> wrote: — In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, John Carles <johncarles@…> wrote:>> thanks; i assume the screw feature makes it waterproof.> It does, though in this application that doesn’t get you much. With a non-waterproof one, any leaks from using the shower, or whatever, would be minimal. If this were a watertight bulkhead between 2 compartments it would be appropriate, but it isn’t. And if you have that much water in the boat, you’re having much bigger problems than a leak into the head…Using a screw-out is OK but knowing what I know now I’d use a “slam hatch” (after looking carefully that there’s room to swing it open.) It would be better, I think, but for me, replacing what I have now is a job that I just know that I’ll simply never get to.“Life is a Reach, then you Jibe” SWARD