Posted by Louis Spitz (aronella@…>)
On my F35 '94 I accidentally pulled the reefing line for the second reef out of the boom. The first reef still functions well.
How can I re-rig the second reef? Can’t figure out the process, and the book that came with the boat doesn’t explain. It only shows the pulley box inside the boom.
Thanks,
Lou
F35 # 23
Posted by allan jacobs (allanjcbs@…>)
Lou I had to untangle my reefing lines and outhaul once. I took off the fitting on the outboard end of the boom and when done re rivited it. AlLouis Spitz <aronella@…> wrote: On my F35 '94 I accidentally pulled the reefing line for the second reef out of the boom. The first reef still functions well. How can I re-rig the second reef? Can’t figure out the process, and the book that
came with the boat doesn’t explain. It only shows the pulley box inside the boom. Thanks, Lou F35 # 23 __________________________________________________Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
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Posted by Louis Spitz (aronella@…>)
Al, were you able to do the work yourself? T
----- Original Message -----
From: allan jacobs
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] reefing line pulled out
Lou
I had to untangle my reefing lines and outhaul once. I took off the fitting on the outboard end of the boom and when done re rivited it.
AlLouis Spitz <aronella@optonline.net> wrote:
On my F35 '94 I accidentally pulled the reefing line for the second reef out of the boom. The first reef still functions well.
How can I re-rig the second reef? Can’t figure out the process, and the book that came with the boat doesn’t explain. It only shows the pulley box inside the boom.
Thanks,
Lou
F35 # 23
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Posted by Louis Spitz (aronella@…>)
Al,
Those are mighty hefty rivets. Did you do the work yourself?
How hard was the re-reeving process?
Thanks,Lou
----- Original Message -----
From: allan jacobs
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] reefing line pulled out
Lou
I had to untangle my reefing lines and outhaul once. I took off the fitting on the outboard end of the boom and when done re rivited it.
AlLouis Spitz <aronella@optonline.net> wrote:
On my F35 '94 I accidentally pulled the reefing line for the second reef out of the boom. The first reef still functions well.
How can I re-rig the second reef? Can’t figure out the process, and the book that came with the boat doesn’t explain. It only shows the pulley box inside the boom.
Thanks,
Lou
F35 # 23
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-----Original Message-----
From: “Louis Spitz” <aronella@…>
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 23:02:32
To:<freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] reefing line pulled out
Al, were you able to do the work yourself? T
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From: allan
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Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] reefing line pulled out
Lou
I had to untangle my reefing lines and outhaul once. I took off the fitting on
the outboard end of the boom and when done re rivited it.
Al
Louis Spitz <aronella@optonline. mailto:aronella@... net> wrote:
On my F35 '94 I accidentally pulled the reefing line for the second reef out of
the boom. The first reef still functions well.
How can I re-rig the second reef? Can’t figure out the process, and the book
that came with the boat doesn’t explain. It only shows the pulley box inside the
boom.
Thanks,
Lou
F35 # 23
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Posted by Rick Higgens (higgens@…>)
I had a reefing line pull through the boom and out of necessity
developed a specialty tool to help re-rig it. I cut the hook off the
end of my tape measure (making sure not to let it retract afterwards).
We were able to snake the tape through the boom and the rest was
tying, pulling, wrapping and securing. I still have that custom tool
except it now has duck tape at the end (and you now have to add 2.75"
to every measurement).
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Louis Spitz” <aronella@…>
wrote:
Al, were you able to do the work yourself? T
----- Original Message -----
From: allan jacobs
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] reefing line pulled outLou
I had to untangle my reefing lines and outhaul once. I took off
the fitting on the outboard end of the boom and when done re rivited it.Al
Louis Spitz <aronella@…> wrote:
On my F35 '94 I accidentally pulled the reefing line for the
second reef out of the boom. The first reef still functions well.
How can I re-rig the second reef? Can’t figure out the process,
and the book that came with the boat doesn’t explain. It only shows
the pulley box inside the boom.
Thanks,
Lou
F35 # 23
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Posted by aronella@… (aronella@…)
Rick,
That’s thinking outside the box and inside the boom!
Where did you access the line? The only boom ‘port’ is where the outhaul line exits on the starboard side.
Lou----- Original Message -----From: Rick Higgens Date: Sunday, October 21, 2007 4:05 pmSubject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: reefing line pulled outTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com> I had a reefing line pull through the boom and out of necessity> developed a specialty tool to help re-rig it. I cut the hook > off the> end of my tape measure (making sure not to let it retract afterwards).> We were able to snake the tape through the boom and the rest was> tying, pulling, wrapping and securing. I still have that custom tool> except it now has duck tape at the end (and you now have to add 2.75"> to every measurement). > > — In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Louis Spitz” > wrote:> >> > Al, were you able to do the work yourself? T> > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: allan jacobs > > To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 5:48 PM> > Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] reefing line pulled out> > > > > > > > Lou> > > > I had to untangle my reefing lines and outhaul once. I took off> the fitting on the outboard end of the boom and when done re > rivited it.> > > > Al> > > > Louis Spitz wrote:> > On my F35 '94 I accidentally pulled the reefing line for the> second reef out of the boom. The first reef still functions well.> > How can I re-rig the second reef? Can’t figure out the process,> and the book that came with the boat doesn’t explain. It only shows> the pulley box inside the boom.> > Thanks,> > Lou> > F35 # 23> > > > > > __________________________________________________> > Do You Yahoo!?> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection > around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > >> -----------------------------------------------------------------> -------------> > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.3/1081 - Release Date:> 10/19/2007 5:41 PM> >> > >
Posted by Sward (swardfullsail@…>)
Isn’t that the same as snaking an electrical wire?
“Life is a Reach, then you Jibe”
SWARD
----- Original Message ----From: “aronella@…” <aronella@…>To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 11:45:03 AMSubject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Re: reefing line pulled out
Rick,
That’s thinking outside the box and inside the boom!
Where did you access the line? The only boom ‘port’ is where the outhaul line exits on the starboard side.
Lou----- Original Message -----From: Rick Higgens Date: Sunday, October 21, 2007 4:05 pmSubject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: reefing line pulled outTo: freedomyachts2003@ yahoogroups. com> I had a reefing line pull through the boom and out of necessity> developed a specialty tool to help re-rig it. I cut the hook > off the> end of my tape measure (making sure not to let it retract afterwards).> We were able to snake the tape through the boom and the rest was> tying, pulling, wrapping and securing. I still have that custom tool> except it now has duck tape at the end (and you now have to add 2.75"> to every measurement) . > > — In freedomyachts2003@ yahoogroups. com, “Louis Spitz” > wrote:> >> > Al, were you able to do the work yourself? T> > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: allan jacobs > >
To: freedomyachts2003@ yahoogroups. com > > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 5:48 PM> > Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] reefing line pulled out> > > > > > > > Lou> > > > I had to untangle my reefing lines and outhaul once. I took off> the fitting on the outboard end of the boom and when done re > rivited it.> > > > Al> > > > Louis Spitz wrote:> > On my F35 '94 I accidentally pulled the reefing line for the> second reef out of the boom. The first reef still functions well.> > How can I re-rig the second reef? Can’t figure out the process,> and the book that came with the boat doesn’t explain. It only shows> the pulley box inside the boom.> > Thanks,> > Lou> > F35 # 23> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________
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Posted by Rick Higgens (higgens@…>)
From: Rick Higgens
Date: Sunday, October 21, 2007 4:05 pm
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: reefing line pulled out
My line came untied at the hook on the sail (new line). We started at
the mast end of the boom where the reefing line sheave is and pushed
the tape through until I could get to it with a screwdriver and fish
it out the other end. Then we secured a messenger line to the tape
and pulled it back through, then the reefing line to the messenger
line and that was it. Sounds real easy typing it in but it took 2 of
us an hour to get everything fished through. I’m thinking my boom is
different from your. Mine is somewhat open on the underside of the
outhaul end (enough so that birds started to build a nest in there
which we cleared while fishing for tape) giving me access.
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, aronella@… wrote:
Rick,
That’s thinking outside the box and inside the boom!
Where did you access the line? The only boom ‘port’ is where the
outhaul line exits on the starboard side.
Lou----- Original Message -----
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comI had a reefing line pull through the boom and out of necessity
developed a specialty tool to help re-rig it. I cut the hook
off the
end of my tape measure (making sure not to let it retract afterwards).
We were able to snake the tape through the boom and the rest was
tying, pulling, wrapping and securing. I still have that custom tool
except it now has duck tape at the end (and you now have to add 2.75"
to every measurement).— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Louis Spitz”
wrote:Al, were you able to do the work yourself? T
----- Original Message -----
From: allan jacobs
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] reefing line pulled outLou
I had to untangle my reefing lines and outhaul once. I took off
the fitting on the outboard end of the boom and when done re
rivited it.Al
Louis Spitz wrote:
On my F35 '94 I accidentally pulled the reefing line for the
second reef out of the boom. The first reef still functions well.
How can I re-rig the second reef? Can’t figure out the process,
and the book that came with the boat doesn’t explain. It only shows
the pulley box inside the boom.
Thanks,
Lou
F35 # 23
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Posted by rbed4d (rbed4d@…>)
OK, so as a new member of this group, I’ll ask a silly question: Why
bother with 2 reefing line? I’ve only owned my F-35 for 2 seasons,
but have found no use for the second reef during coastal cruising.
The boat handles fine up to 25 knots with 1 reef and if it blows
harder than that, I’ll motor-sailing with only the jib up. The second
reef line just gets in the way while stowing the main.
Bob Bedford
F-35 #63
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Rick Higgens” <higgens@…>
wrote:
From: Rick Higgens
Date: Sunday, October 21, 2007 4:05 pm
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: reefing line pulled out
My line came untied at the hook on the sail (new line). We started at
the mast end of the boom where the reefing line sheave is and pushed
the tape through until I could get to it with a screwdriver and fish
it out the other end. Then we secured a messenger line to the tape
and pulled it back through, then the reefing line to the messenger
line and that was it. Sounds real easy typing it in but it took 2 of
us an hour to get everything fished through. I’m thinking my boom is
different from your. Mine is somewhat open on the underside of the
outhaul end (enough so that birds started to build a nest in there
which we cleared while fishing for tape) giving me access.— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, aronella@ wrote:
Rick,
That’s thinking outside the box and inside the boom!
Where did you access the line? The only boom ‘port’ is where the
outhaul line exits on the starboard side.
Lou----- Original Message -----
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
I had a reefing line pull through the boom and out of necessity
developed a specialty tool to help re-rig it. I cut the hook
off the
end of my tape measure (making sure not to let it retract
afterwards).
We were able to snake the tape through the boom and the rest was
tying, pulling, wrapping and securing. I still have that custom tool
except it now has duck tape at the end (and you now have to add
2.75"
to every measurement).— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Louis Spitz”
wrote:Al, were you able to do the work yourself? T
----- Original Message -----
From: allan jacobs
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] reefing line pulled outLou
I had to untangle my reefing lines and outhaul once. I took off
the fitting on the outboard end of the boom and when done re
rivited it.Al
Louis Spitz wrote:
On my F35 '94 I accidentally pulled the reefing line for the
second reef out of the boom. The first reef still functions well.
How can I re-rig the second reef? Can’t figure out the process,
and the book that came with the boat doesn’t explain. It only shows
the pulley box inside the boom.
Thanks,
Lou
F35 # 23
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Posted by ptecca63 (paul.tecca@…>)
Hi Bob,
I am a new F35 owner as well. I just completed my first full season
with my F35. At first I had the same thought as you about the need for
the 2nd reef line. More bother than it is worth. But now I would not
do away with it for the world.
Several times this season I was out in winds blowing a constant 25+.
In these conditions a single reef was just not enough. Especially
beating. The weather helm was extreme and the boat became
uncontrollable. Putting in a 2nd reef, with the jib, balanced the boat
nicely. The helm was light, the boat was in control, and she just
flies (7+ kts easily). Why trade that for slogging it out under power
at 4 to 5 kts?
Paul
Midnight Star, F35 #8
Posted by rbed4d (rbed4d@…>)
Ah, yes, I remember sailing Narragansett & The Islands in summer '06
with 25-30 sou’westers, and agree with your experience. Now sail the
west coast of Florida in winter, where it’s over 25 only during a
cold-front passage, and nobody sails in that stuff if they can help
it. I got away with never using the 2nd reef last season and will try
doing without this year. Will let you know how it goes.
Bob Bedford
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “ptecca63” <paul.tecca@…>
wrote:
Hi Bob,
I am a new F35 owner as well. I just completed my first full season
with my F35. At first I had the same thought as you about the need for
the 2nd reef line. More bother than it is worth. But now I would not
do away with it for the world.Several times this season I was out in winds blowing a constant 25+.
In these conditions a single reef was just not enough. Especially
beating. The weather helm was extreme and the boat became
uncontrollable. Putting in a 2nd reef, with the jib, balanced the boat
nicely. The helm was light, the boat was in control, and she just
flies (7+ kts easily). Why trade that for slogging it out under power
at 4 to 5 kts?Paul
Midnight Star, F35 #8