Reefing set-up on the Freedom 30

Posted by fargo_r (fargo_r@…>)

Our new-to-us Freedom 30 is equiped with a very sturdy Kenyon boom
which includes provisions for the Hoyte/Freedom version of Jiffy
Reefing. This system was never used on our boat, so I have to install
it. The boom has a pair of built-in turning pulleys at each end. But
the aft end of the boom has no anchor (cleat) for the start of the
reefing lines.

In the Hoyte update of the old Jiffy system, I thought a reefing line
runs from a cleat on the end of the boom, up through a reefing clew
ring, then down to a turning block on the boom, then forward to
another block on the boom, up to a hook for the tack, and down to the
base of the mast and then aft.

What is the right way to deal with the clew connection on this rig? I
am confident we will use the reefing system often on our travels south
to the Bahamas. The perfect winds for traveling south and southwest
are already blowing well over 20 knots…and will get stronger as out
delayed departure approaches mid-November.

Thanks,

Fargo
F30#12 NARISA

Posted by Brian Guptil (sailordude@…>)


Fargo

There should be
a grommet in the sail directly below the reefing clew ring, just above the boom.
Pass the bitter end thru that grommet and pass it around the boom and back up
to tie off with the standing part leading up to the reef clew ring. A bowline,
snug but loose enough to slid with the outhaul adjustment is common.

I have loose
footed my sails and so just use the bowline around the boom.

Brian

-----Original Message-----
From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fargo_r
Sent: Thursday, November 10,
2005 10:19 AM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003]
Reefing set-up on the Freedom 30

Our new-to-us Freedom 30 is equiped with a very sturdy
Kenyon boom
which includes provisions for the Hoyte/Freedom
version of Jiffy
Reefing. This system was never used on our boat,
so I have to install
it. The boom has a pair of built-in turning
pulleys at each end. But
the aft end of the boom has no anchor (cleat) for
the start of the
reefing lines.

In the Hoyte update of the old Jiffy system, I
thought a reefing line
runs from a cleat on the end of the boom, up
through a reefing clew
ring, then down to a turning block on the boom,
then forward to
another block on the boom, up to a hook for the
tack, and down to the
base of the mast and then aft.

What is the right way to deal with the clew
connection on this rig? I
am confident we will use the reefing system often
on our travels south
to the Bahamas. The perfect winds for traveling
south and southwest
are already blowing well over 20 knots…and will
get stronger as out
delayed departure approaches mid-November.

Thanks,

Fargo
F30#12 NARISA




\

Posted by William A. Cormack (wacormack@…>)

Your sail should have a slot with chafe protection cut into the foot of the
sail forward of the clew. Run the reef line from the block at the aft end
of the boom, through the reefing cringle on the leech of the sail, down
through the slot, around the boom and tie a bowline to dead end it there. A
strap or fairlead should be installed to keep the reef line from pulling
against the end of the slot when tensioned.

No slot? Install a strap or pad eye to deadend the reef line at. You can
also just run the reefing line up to the reefing cringle and tie it there
but you lose the mechanical advantage.


William A. Cormack, CPA
Principal and Chief Financial Officer
Whelan Associates, LLC, a Corporate Real Estate Service Firm
100 Faunce Corner Executive Center, Suite 150
500 Faunce Corner Road
North Dartmouth, MA 02747
Voice: 508-984-4100, Fax: 508-984-4101, Cell 508-254-5828
MailTo:wacormack@…


----- Original Message -----
From: “fargo_r” <fargo_r@…>
To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 11/10/2005 10:18 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Reefing set-up on the Freedom 30

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Our new-to-us Freedom 30 is equiped with a very sturdy Kenyon boom
which includes provisions for the Hoyte/Freedom version of Jiffy
Reefing. This system was never used on our boat, so I have to install
it. The boom has a pair of built-in turning pulleys at each end. But
the aft end of the boom has no anchor (cleat) for the start of the
reefing lines.

In the Hoyte update of the old Jiffy system, I thought a reefing line
runs from a cleat on the end of the boom, up through a reefing clew
ring, then down to a turning block on the boom, then forward to
another block on the boom, up to a hook for the tack, and down to the
base of the mast and then aft.

What is the right way to deal with the clew connection on this rig? I
am confident we will use the reefing system often on our travels south
to the Bahamas. The perfect winds for traveling south and southwest
are already blowing well over 20 knots…and will get stronger as out
delayed departure approaches mid-November.

Thanks,

Fargo
F30#12 NARISA

Yahoo! Groups Links

Posted by macks011 (macks04@…>)

Instead of threading the reef line through the cringle, install a
high load block and remove a lot of the friction from the system



— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “William A. Cormack”
<wacormack@w…> wrote:

Your sail should have a slot with chafe protection cut into the
foot of the
sail forward of the clew. Run the reef line from the block at the
aft end


of the boom, through the reefing cringle on the leech of the
sail, down
through the slot, around the boom and tie a bowline to dead end it
there. A
strap or fairlead should be installed to keep the reef line from
pulling
against the end of the slot when tensioned.

No slot? Install a strap or pad eye to deadend the reef line at.
You can
also just run the reefing line up to the reefing cringle and tie
it there
but you lose the mechanical advantage.


William A. Cormack, CPA
Principal and Chief Financial Officer
Whelan Associates, LLC, a Corporate Real Estate Service Firm
100 Faunce Corner Executive Center, Suite 150
500 Faunce Corner Road
North Dartmouth, MA 02747
Voice: 508-984-4100, Fax: 508-984-4101, Cell 508-254-5828
MailTo:wacormack@w

----- Original Message -----
From: “fargo_r” <fargo_r@y…>
To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 11/10/2005 10:18 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Reefing set-up on the Freedom 30

Our new-to-us Freedom 30 is equiped with a very sturdy Kenyon
boom
which includes provisions for the Hoyte/Freedom version of Jiffy
Reefing. This system was never used on our boat, so I have to
install
it. The boom has a pair of built-in turning pulleys at each end.
But
the aft end of the boom has no anchor (cleat) for the start of
the
reefing lines.

In the Hoyte update of the old Jiffy system, I thought a reefing
line
runs from a cleat on the end of the boom, up through a reefing
clew
ring, then down to a turning block on the boom, then forward to
another block on the boom, up to a hook for the tack, and down
to the
base of the mast and then aft.

What is the right way to deal with the clew connection on this
rig? I
am confident we will use the reefing system often on our travels
south
to the Bahamas. The perfect winds for traveling south and
southwest
are already blowing well over 20 knots…and will get stronger
as out
delayed departure approaches mid-November.

Thanks,

Fargo
F30#12 NARISA

Yahoo! Groups Links

Posted by markedwards55 (markedwards55@…>)

As a follow up to what “macks011” and Bill Cormack wrote I would
reinforce the idea of the high load block mounted permanently to the
sail. The big cat’s do this and it really helps to cut down
friction. I sailed a few Freedoms where this had been done and it
makes a difference both in the friction in setting and shaking out a
reef but also in the longevity of the line. The reef grommets tend
to chafe the reef line over time since this is a very heavily loaded
line. Also, to what Bill said about securing the reef at the end
of the boom. It is critical the reef line not be simply tied into
the cringle and run straight away to sheave in the boom end. This
direct run gives you an aft-ward pull but not sufficient downward
pull so you cannot achieve a flat sail shape this way. Definitely
do what Bill suggested and go up through the cringle, down and
through a slot in the sail (even if you slice one with a knife) and
then around to a sliding bowline. A sliding bowline back on the
vertical run of the reef will cause the loop around the boom to
cinch up on the boom and will keep it off the sail.
Mark Edwards,
Freedom Yachts

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “macks011” <macks04@o…>
wrote:

Instead of threading the reef line through the cringle, install a
high load block and remove a lot of the friction from the system

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “William A. Cormack”
<wacormack@w…> wrote:

Your sail should have a slot with chafe protection cut into the
foot of the
sail forward of the clew. Run the reef line from the block at
the
aft end

of the boom, through the reefing cringle on the leech of the
sail, down
through the slot, around the boom and tie a bowline to dead end
it
there. A
strap or fairlead should be installed to keep the reef line from
pulling
against the end of the slot when tensioned.

No slot? Install a strap or pad eye to deadend the reef line
at.
You can
also just run the reefing line up to the reefing cringle and tie
it there
but you lose the mechanical advantage.


William A. Cormack, CPA
Principal and Chief Financial Officer
Whelan Associates, LLC, a Corporate Real Estate Service Firm
100 Faunce Corner Executive Center, Suite 150
500 Faunce Corner Road
North Dartmouth, MA 02747
Voice: 508-984-4100, Fax: 508-984-4101, Cell 508-254-5828
MailTo:wacormack@w

----- Original Message -----
From: “fargo_r” <fargo_r@y…>
To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 11/10/2005 10:18 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Reefing set-up on the Freedom 30

Our new-to-us Freedom 30 is equiped with a very sturdy Kenyon
boom
which includes provisions for the Hoyte/Freedom version of
Jiffy
Reefing. This system was never used on our boat, so I have to
install
it. The boom has a pair of built-in turning pulleys at each
end.
But
the aft end of the boom has no anchor (cleat) for the start of
the
reefing lines.

In the Hoyte update of the old Jiffy system, I thought a
reefing
line
runs from a cleat on the end of the boom, up through a reefing
clew
ring, then down to a turning block on the boom, then forward to
another block on the boom, up to a hook for the tack, and down
to the
base of the mast and then aft.

What is the right way to deal with the clew connection on this
rig? I
am confident we will use the reefing system often on our
travels
south
to the Bahamas. The perfect winds for traveling south and
southwest
are already blowing well over 20 knots…and will get
stronger
as out
delayed departure approaches mid-November.

Thanks,

Fargo
F30#12 NARISA

Yahoo! Groups Links

Posted by Lorman, Alvin J. (ajlorman@…>)

OK, how about a diagram for us F30 owners who can’t seem to visualize this?

Al Lorman
F30 Ab Initio

-----Original Message-----From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of markedwards55Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 5:37 PMTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Reefing set-up on the Freedom 30As a follow up to what “macks011” and Bill Cormack wrote I would reinforce the idea of the high load block mounted permanently to the sail. The big cat’s do this and it really helps to cut down friction. I sailed a few Freedoms where this had been done and it makes a difference both in the friction in setting and shaking out a reef but also in the longevity of the line. The reef grommets tend to chafe the reef line over time since this is a very heavily loaded line. Also, to what Bill said about securing the reef at the end of the boom. It is critical the reef line not be simply tied into the cringle and run straight away to sheave in the boom end. This direct run gives you an aft-ward pull but not sufficient downward pull so you cannot achieve a flat sail shape this way. Definitely do what Bill suggested and go up through the cringle, down and through a slot in the sail (even if you slice one with a knife) and then around to a sliding bowline. A sliding bowline back on the vertical run of the reef will cause the loop around the boom to cinch up on the boom and will keep it off the sail. Mark Edwards,Freedom Yachts — In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “macks011” <macks04@o…> wrote:>> > > > Instead of threading the reef line through the cringle, install a > high load block and remove a lot of the friction from the system> > > > — In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “William A. Cormack” > <wacormack@w…> wrote:> >> > Your sail should have a slot with chafe protection cut into the > foot of the > > sail forward of the clew. Run the reef line from the block at the > aft end > > > > of the boom, through the reefing cringle on the leech of the > sail, down > > through the slot, around the boom and tie a bowline to dead end it > there. A > > strap or fairlead should be installed to keep the reef line from > pulling > > against the end of the slot when tensioned.> > > > No slot? Install a strap or pad eye to deadend the reef line at. > You can > > also just run the reefing line up to the reefing cringle and tie > it there > > but you lose the mechanical advantage.> > _________________________________________________> > William A. Cormack, CPA> > Principal and Chief Financial Officer> > Whelan Associates, LLC, a Corporate Real Estate Service Firm> > 100 Faunce Corner Executive Center, Suite 150> > 500 Faunce Corner Road> > North Dartmouth, MA 02747> > Voice: 508-984-4100, Fax: 508-984-4101, Cell 508-254-5828> > MailTo:wacormack@w…> > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: “fargo_r” <fargo_r@y…>> > To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>> > Sent: 11/10/2005 10:18 AM> > Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Reefing set-up on the Freedom 30> > > > > > > Our new-to-us Freedom 30 is equiped with a very sturdy Kenyon > boom> > > which includes provisions for the Hoyte/Freedom version of Jiffy> > > Reefing. This system was never used on our boat, so I have to > install> > > it. The boom has a pair of built-in turning pulleys at each end. > But> > > the aft end of the boom has no anchor (cleat) for the start of > the> > > reefing lines.> > >> > > In the Hoyte update of the old Jiffy system, I thought a reefing > line> > > runs from a cleat on the end of the boom, up through a reefing > clew> > > ring, then down to a turning block on the boom, then forward to> > > another block on the boom, up to a hook for the tack, and down > to the> > > base of the mast and then aft.> > >> > > What is the right way to deal with the clew connection on this > rig? I> > > am confident we will use the reefing system often on our travels > south> > > to the Bahamas. The perfect winds for traveling south and > southwest> > > are already blowing well over 20 knots…and will get stronger > as out> > > delayed departure approaches mid-November.> > >> > > Thanks,> > >> > > Fargo> > > F30#12 NARISA> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Yahoo! Groups Links> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >>
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Posted by Fargo Rousseau (fargo_r@…>)

Thanks for all of the good ideas. I have enough to go
on from the first leg of our trip to Cape May. Will
update there…and perfect in warm weather from the
return north.

Also, a note of thanks to Dave Bierig for sending me a
new CamberSpar retainer clip this week to replace the
one that ran away. Super one day service and only $10.
(Bierig Sailmakers… in Erie, 814-459-8001)

Fargo
F30#12 NARISA

— “Lorman, Alvin J.” <ajlorman@…> wrote:

OK, how about a diagram for us F30 owners who can’t
seem to visualize
this?

Al Lorman
F30 Ab Initio

-----Original Message-----
From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of markedwards55
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 5:37 PM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Reefing set-up on
the Freedom 30

As a follow up to what “macks011” and Bill Cormack
wrote I would
reinforce the idea of the high load block mounted
permanently to the
sail. The big cat’s do this and it really helps to
cut down
friction. I sailed a few Freedoms where this had
been done and it
makes a difference both in the friction in setting
and shaking out a
reef but also in the longevity of the line. The
reef grommets tend
to chafe the reef line over time since this is a
very heavily loaded
line. Also, to what Bill said about securing the
reef at the end
of the boom. It is critical the reef line not be
simply tied into
the cringle and run straight away to sheave in the
boom end. This
direct run gives you an aft-ward pull but not
sufficient downward
pull so you cannot achieve a flat sail shape this
way. Definitely
do what Bill suggested and go up through the
cringle, down and
through a slot in the sail (even if you slice one
with a knife) and
then around to a sliding bowline. A sliding bowline
back on the
vertical run of the reef will cause the loop around
the boom to
cinch up on the boom and will keep it off the sail.

Mark Edwards,
Freedom Yachts

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “macks011”
<macks04@o…>
wrote:

Instead of threading the reef line through the
cringle, install a
high load block and remove a lot of the friction
from the system

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “William
A. Cormack”
<wacormack@w…> wrote:

Your sail should have a slot with chafe
protection cut into the
foot of the
sail forward of the clew. Run the reef line
from the block at
the
aft end

of the boom, through the reefing cringle on the
leech of the
sail, down
through the slot, around the boom and tie a
bowline to dead end
it
there. A
strap or fairlead should be installed to keep
the reef line from
pulling
against the end of the slot when tensioned.

No slot? Install a strap or pad eye to deadend
the reef line
at.
You can
also just run the reefing line up to the reefing
cringle and tie
it there
but you lose the mechanical advantage.


William A. Cormack, CPA
Principal and Chief Financial Officer
Whelan Associates, LLC, a Corporate Real Estate
Service Firm
100 Faunce Corner Executive Center, Suite 150
500 Faunce Corner Road
North Dartmouth, MA 02747
Voice: 508-984-4100, Fax: 508-984-4101, Cell
508-254-5828
MailTo:wacormack@w

----- Original Message -----
From: “fargo_r” <fargo_r@y…>
To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 11/10/2005 10:18 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Reefing set-up on
the Freedom 30

Our new-to-us Freedom 30 is equiped with a
very sturdy Kenyon
boom
which includes provisions for the
Hoyte/Freedom version of
Jiffy
Reefing. This system was never used on our
boat, so I have to
install
it. The boom has a pair of built-in turning
pulleys at each
end.
But
the aft end of the boom has no anchor (cleat)
for the start of
the
reefing lines.

In the Hoyte update of the old Jiffy system, I
thought a
reefing
line
runs from a cleat on the end of the boom, up
through a reefing
clew
ring, then down to a turning block on the
boom, then forward to
another block on the boom, up to a hook for
the tack, and down
to the
base of the mast and then aft.

What is the right way to deal with the clew
connection on this
rig? I
am confident we will use the reefing system
often on our
travels
south
to the Bahamas. The perfect winds for
traveling south and
southwest
are already blowing well over 20 knots…and
will get
stronger
as out
delayed departure approaches mid-November.

Thanks,

Fargo
F30#12 NARISA

Yahoo! Groups Links


=== message truncated ===

Posted by seychellois_lib (seychellois_lib@…>)

I have often though about installing such blocks at the reefing
cringles on the leach but how do you do it? Is there some way to
install these permanently or do yus use the “hook on” as do the blocks
on the luff. Seems like a “hook on” would very quickly be shaken out
unless you have a load on the reefing line.

Also, I have a devil of a time with line twisting. I know this is
basic but how do you guys coil your (very long) refing lines to
prevent twist? Even a single twist in the round trip to the reefing
block on the luff makes it almost impossible to pull in the reef.



— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “macks011” <macks04@o…> wrote:

Instead of threading the reef line through the cringle, install a
high load block and remove a lot of the friction from the system

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “William A. Cormack”
<wacormack@w…> wrote:

Your sail should have a slot with chafe protection cut into the
foot of the
sail forward of the clew. Run the reef line from the block at the
aft end

of the boom, through the reefing cringle on the leech of the
sail, down
through the slot, around the boom and tie a bowline to dead end it
there. A
strap or fairlead should be installed to keep the reef line from
pulling
against the end of the slot when tensioned.

No slot? Install a strap or pad eye to deadend the reef line at.
You can
also just run the reefing line up to the reefing cringle and tie
it there
but you lose the mechanical advantage.


William A. Cormack, CPA
Principal and Chief Financial Officer
Whelan Associates, LLC, a Corporate Real Estate Service Firm
100 Faunce Corner Executive Center, Suite 150
500 Faunce Corner Road
North Dartmouth, MA 02747
Voice: 508-984-4100, Fax: 508-984-4101, Cell 508-254-5828
MailTo:wacormack@w

----- Original Message -----
From: “fargo_r” <fargo_r@y…>
To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 11/10/2005 10:18 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Reefing set-up on the Freedom 30

Our new-to-us Freedom 30 is equiped with a very sturdy Kenyon
boom
which includes provisions for the Hoyte/Freedom version of Jiffy
Reefing. This system was never used on our boat, so I have to
install
it. The boom has a pair of built-in turning pulleys at each end.
But
the aft end of the boom has no anchor (cleat) for the start of
the
reefing lines.

In the Hoyte update of the old Jiffy system, I thought a reefing
line
runs from a cleat on the end of the boom, up through a reefing
clew
ring, then down to a turning block on the boom, then forward to
another block on the boom, up to a hook for the tack, and down
to the
base of the mast and then aft.

What is the right way to deal with the clew connection on this
rig? I
am confident we will use the reefing system often on our travels
south
to the Bahamas. The perfect winds for traveling south and
southwest
are already blowing well over 20 knots…and will get stronger
as out
delayed departure approaches mid-November.

Thanks,

Fargo
F30#12 NARISA

Yahoo! Groups Links

Posted by macks011 (macks04@…>)

I had my sailmaker install a short length of webbing through the
cringle with a large D ring at each end. The block shackles to the D
ring.

Use a backhand twist with every other coil of the line and it will
run fair. Takes some practice but will become second nature in time.


In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “seychellois_lib”
<seychellois_lib@y…> wrote:

I have often though about installing such blocks at the reefing
cringles on the leach but how do you do it? Is there some way to
install these permanently or do yus use the “hook on” as do the
blocks
on the luff. Seems like a “hook on” would very quickly be shaken
out
unless you have a load on the reefing line.

Also, I have a devil of a time with line twisting. I know this is
basic but how do you guys coil your (very long) refing lines to
prevent twist? Even a single twist in the round trip to the reefing
block on the luff makes it almost impossible to pull in the reef.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “macks011”
<macks04@o…> wrote:

Instead of threading the reef line through the cringle, install
a
high load block and remove a lot of the friction from the system

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “William A. Cormack”
<wacormack@w…> wrote:

Your sail should have a slot with chafe protection cut into
the
foot of the
sail forward of the clew. Run the reef line from the block at
the
aft end

of the boom, through the reefing cringle on the leech of the
sail, down
through the slot, around the boom and tie a bowline to dead
end it
there. A
strap or fairlead should be installed to keep the reef line
from
pulling
against the end of the slot when tensioned.

No slot? Install a strap or pad eye to deadend the reef line
at.
You can
also just run the reefing line up to the reefing cringle and
tie
it there
but you lose the mechanical advantage.


William A. Cormack, CPA
Principal and Chief Financial Officer
Whelan Associates, LLC, a Corporate Real Estate Service Firm
100 Faunce Corner Executive Center, Suite 150
500 Faunce Corner Road
North Dartmouth, MA 02747
Voice: 508-984-4100, Fax: 508-984-4101, Cell 508-254-5828
MailTo:wacormack@w

----- Original Message -----
From: “fargo_r” <fargo_r@y…>
To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 11/10/2005 10:18 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Reefing set-up on the Freedom 30

Our new-to-us Freedom 30 is equiped with a very sturdy
Kenyon
boom
which includes provisions for the Hoyte/Freedom version of
Jiffy
Reefing. This system was never used on our boat, so I have
to
install
it. The boom has a pair of built-in turning pulleys at each
end.
But
the aft end of the boom has no anchor (cleat) for the start
of
the
reefing lines.

In the Hoyte update of the old Jiffy system, I thought a
reefing
line
runs from a cleat on the end of the boom, up through a
reefing
clew
ring, then down to a turning block on the boom, then forward
to
another block on the boom, up to a hook for the tack, and
down
to the
base of the mast and then aft.

What is the right way to deal with the clew connection on
this
rig? I
am confident we will use the reefing system often on our
travels
south
to the Bahamas. The perfect winds for traveling south and
southwest
are already blowing well over 20 knots…and will get
stronger
as out
delayed departure approaches mid-November.

Thanks,

Fargo
F30#12 NARISA

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Posted by Lorman, Alvin J. (ajlorman@…>)

The reefing set-up on my 30 looks nothing like this. Would someone please take
some photos and post them?

Al Lorman
F30 Ab Initio

-----Original Message-----
From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com on behalf of macks011
Sent: Sat 11/12/2005 5:32 PM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Cc:
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Reefing set-up on the Freedom 30


I had my sailmaker install a short length of webbing through the
cringle with a large D ring at each end. The block shackles to the D
ring.

Use a backhand twist with every other coil of the line and it will
run fair. Takes some practice but will become second nature in time.


In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “seychellois_lib”
<seychellois_lib@y…> wrote:

I have often though about installing such blocks at the reefing
cringles on the leach but how do you do it? Is there some way to
install these permanently or do yus use the “hook on” as do the
blocks
on the luff. Seems like a “hook on” would very quickly be shaken
out
unless you have a load on the reefing line.

Also, I have a devil of a time with line twisting. I know this is
basic but how do you guys coil your (very long) refing lines to
prevent twist? Even a single twist in the round trip to the reefing
block on the luff makes it almost impossible to pull in the reef.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “macks011”
<macks04@o…> wrote:

Instead of threading the reef line through the cringle, install
a
high load block and remove a lot of the friction from the system

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “William A. Cormack”
<wacormack@w…> wrote:

Your sail should have a slot with chafe protection cut into
the
foot of the
sail forward of the clew. Run the reef line from the block at
the
aft end

of the boom, through the reefing cringle on the leech of the
sail, down
through the slot, around the boom and tie a bowline to dead
end it
there. A
strap or fairlead should be installed to keep the reef line
from
pulling
against the end of the slot when tensioned.

No slot? Install a strap or pad eye to deadend the reef line
at.
You can
also just run the reefing line up to the reefing cringle and
tie
it there
but you lose the mechanical advantage.


William A. Cormack, CPA
Principal and Chief Financial Officer
Whelan Associates, LLC, a Corporate Real Estate Service Firm
100 Faunce Corner Executive Center, Suite 150
500 Faunce Corner Road
North Dartmouth, MA 02747
Voice: 508-984-4100, Fax: 508-984-4101, Cell 508-254-5828
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----- Original Message -----
From: “fargo_r” <fargo_r@y…>
To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 11/10/2005 10:18 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Reefing set-up on the Freedom 30

Our new-to-us Freedom 30 is equiped with a very sturdy
Kenyon
boom
which includes provisions for the Hoyte/Freedom version of
Jiffy
Reefing. This system was never used on our boat, so I have
to
install
it. The boom has a pair of built-in turning pulleys at each
end.
But
the aft end of the boom has no anchor (cleat) for the start
of
the
reefing lines.

In the Hoyte update of the old Jiffy system, I thought a
reefing
line
runs from a cleat on the end of the boom, up through a
reefing
clew
ring, then down to a turning block on the boom, then forward
to
another block on the boom, up to a hook for the tack, and
down
to the
base of the mast and then aft.

What is the right way to deal with the clew connection on
this
rig? I
am confident we will use the reefing system often on our
travels
south
to the Bahamas. The perfect winds for traveling south and
southwest
are already blowing well over 20 knots…and will get
stronger
as out
delayed departure approaches mid-November.

Thanks,

Fargo
F30#12 NARISA

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Posted by macks011 (macks04@…>)

Al, the boat is downrigged for the winter, but a description of the
reefing is as follows: 1: Bitter end of the reef tied in a bowline
around the boom aft of the reef cringle. 2: reef line goes through a
block attached to the clew cringle of the reef point. 3: The line
exits the block and passes around a sheeve in the end of the boom
and through the boom and forward. 4: the line exits the boom around
a sheeve adjacent to the gooseneck attachment and goes up to a
highload block attached to the tack reefpoint cringle. 5: the line
passes around the block and down to the base of the mast, through
the deck organizer and back to clutch adjacent to the companion way.

Email me a fax # and I’ll draw you a diagram.










— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Lorman, Alvin J.”
<ajlorman@y…> wrote:

The reefing set-up on my 30 looks nothing like this. Would
someone please take some photos and post them?

Al Lorman
F30 Ab Initio

-----Original Message-----
From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com on behalf of
macks011
Sent: Sat 11/12/2005 5:32 PM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Cc:
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Reefing set-up on the
Freedom 30

I had my sailmaker install a short length of webbing through
the
cringle with a large D ring at each end. The block shackles
to the D
ring.

Use a backhand twist with every other coil of the line and
it will
run fair. Takes some practice but will become second nature
in time.

In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “seychellois_lib”
<seychellois_lib@y…> wrote:

I have often though about installing such blocks at the
reefing
cringles on the leach but how do you do it? Is there some
way to
install these permanently or do yus use the “hook on” as
do the
blocks
on the luff. Seems like a “hook on” would very quickly be
shaken
out
unless you have a load on the reefing line.

Also, I have a devil of a time with line twisting. I know
this is
basic but how do you guys coil your (very long) refing
lines to
prevent twist? Even a single twist in the round trip to
the reefing
block on the luff makes it almost impossible to pull in
the reef.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “macks011”
<macks04@o…> wrote:

Instead of threading the reef line through the cringle,
install
a
high load block and remove a lot of the friction from
the system

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “William A.
Cormack”
<wacormack@w…> wrote:

Your sail should have a slot with chafe protection cut
into
the
foot of the
sail forward of the clew. Run the reef line from the
block at
the
aft end

of the boom, through the reefing cringle on the leech
of the
sail, down
through the slot, around the boom and tie a bowline to
dead
end it
there. A
strap or fairlead should be installed to keep the reef
line
from
pulling
against the end of the slot when tensioned.

No slot? Install a strap or pad eye to deadend the
reef line
at.
You can
also just run the reefing line up to the reefing
cringle and
tie
it there
but you lose the mechanical advantage.


William A. Cormack, CPA
Principal and Chief Financial Officer
Whelan Associates, LLC, a Corporate Real Estate
Service Firm
100 Faunce Corner Executive Center, Suite 150
500 Faunce Corner Road
North Dartmouth, MA 02747
Voice: 508-984-4100, Fax: 508-984-4101, Cell 508-254-
5828
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----- Original Message -----
From: “fargo_r” <fargo_r@y…>
To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 11/10/2005 10:18 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Reefing set-up on the
Freedom 30

Our new-to-us Freedom 30 is equiped with a very
sturdy
Kenyon
boom
which includes provisions for the Hoyte/Freedom
version of
Jiffy
Reefing. This system was never used on our boat, so
I have
to
install
it. The boom has a pair of built-in turning pulleys
at each
end.
But
the aft end of the boom has no anchor (cleat) for
the start
of
the
reefing lines.

In the Hoyte update of the old Jiffy system, I
thought a
reefing
line
runs from a cleat on the end of the boom, up through
a
reefing
clew
ring, then down to a turning block on the boom, then
forward
to
another block on the boom, up to a hook for the
tack, and
down
to the
base of the mast and then aft.

What is the right way to deal with the clew
connection on
this
rig? I
am confident we will use the reefing system often on
our
travels
south
to the Bahamas. The perfect winds for traveling
south and
southwest
are already blowing well over 20 knots…and will
get
stronger
as out
delayed departure approaches mid-November.

Thanks,

Fargo
F30#12 NARISA

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