Posted by mike cunningham (seychellois_lib@…>)
“There are really very few parts that need replacing” Unless you are me. I took my Barients down duing the last trip to the boat, it had been two years , shame on me, it is not my favorite job. The port winch was kind of screeching so I figured I had better have at it. I used to take them down into a rectangular plastic dish washing container and used mineral spirits to clean em up prior to gooping. I did it aboard the boat and what a mess.
This trip I had a brilliant revelation, why don’t I put the parts in a cardboard box and take em ashore for cleaning in some comfortable spot where I could watch the world go by while I brushed and polished. This worked like a charm and I had both winches done in record time.
On the trip back to the boat I thought to myself, wouldn’t it be horrible to trip and drop some Barient parts in the cold tumescent water. I would probably never recover them and goodness knows whether Arco would have replacement parts. I assured myself that, now I had considered and prepared for this possibility, I had essentially reduced the probability of occurrence to zero. All was well.
Unfortunately I had not considered the last several steps after reaching the cockpit, tripped over a poorly stowed scrub brush, and dumped the whole box of winch parts in the cockpit well. After recovering from the shock, poking my head up to take a quick look around the docks for any sign of sailing club gawkers who would harass the idiot (me) forever and without pity. I let loose with a satisfying stream of invective against, scrub brushes, cockpits, winches, winch grease, paul springs, cockpit drains, cardboard boxes, general sailboat maintenence, etc. etc.
After I had touched on all the miserable bits and pieces I could think of, I got round to surveying the damage which, to my astonishment, was fairly minor. The only casualty was a crack in one of the delrin needle bearings that fits between the central cylinder and the winch drum (anyone know where I can buy one of these bearings?). I’m happy to report that not a single part went overboard which is a freaking miracle.
Anyway Al, speak for yourself when you say “There are really very few parts that need replacing”
Mike
Freedom 30 #3
Jacqueline
Sporting shiny Barients
----- Original Message ----From: “Lorman, Alvin J.” <ajlorman@…>To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 10:33:45 AMSubject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] refrigeration and windlass on Mull 30/32
Larry:
I don’t recall what model Freedom you have. On my 30, both Barient winches are mounted over smallish sections of headliner which are removed fairly easily. As I recall there are only a few bolts from the base of the winch that come through the coach roof, and there are corresponding nuts and washers below. Hard to imagine, though,how the base might come loose, but very easy to tighten once exposed. I’ve stripped down, cleaned and reassembled my winches; it makes a huge difference. (The biggest offender is usually too much old grease, which has solidified.) There are really very few parts that might need replacing.
Al
-----Original Message-----From: freedomyachts2003@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:freedomyach ts2003@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of Larry KrausSent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 5:45 PMTo: freedomyachts2003@ yahoogroups. comSubject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] refrigeration and windlass on Mull 30/32
AlThanks for the reply. The boat’s about 200 miles north, on the hard for the winter, so I can’t go check on it easily. But as I recall from last fall, I think the winch was loose at the base. So my thought was that there is a bottom side nut holding the base that had come loose and needs tightening. If that is the case, how do I get at that nut? I’ve also begun researching how to service the rest of the winch from above per your suggestion. The winch is a Barient, which I believe is out of production. But I found an Australian company which owns the Barient prints and supplies parts. At the end of the day it may be cheaper and less hassle to simply replace it. But being cheap and liking the challenge, I’d like to fix it if possible. Any additional thoughts or suggestions?LKLorman, Alvin J. wrote:
Larry:
Unless your winch is electric, it should be serviceable entirely from above.
Al Lorman
F30 Ab Initio
-----Original Message-----From: freedomyachts2003@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:freedomyach ts2003@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of Larry KrausSent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 5:08 PMTo: freedomyachts2003@ yahoogroups. comSubject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] refrigeration and windlass on Mull 30/32
We bought an 84 F32 last winter, and it had an A-B unit in it already. It does a fine job keeping things cold. We give it a boost by putting a block of ice in the bottom at the beginning of the weekend. It keeps up nicely and the ice is available for the occasional cocktail.On another subject: Our port side winch needs some work. How does one access it from below, in order to remove it? Does one take down the head liner or what? There is no head liner in the head below the starboard winch, so I’m guessing that there is another way in. But the only thing that I can see is to remove the companion way walls. And that seems rather dufus. What am I missing here?LKsvbagatelle wrote:
I have decided to refit my Freedom 30/32 instead of buying another boat, and would like others’ advice on installing refrigeration and a windlass. What experience do people have with those on a relatively small boat? Is the ice box well enough insulated to retrofit refrigeration? Has anyone installed the Frigoboat or Adler-Barbour unit?I am looking at both a vertical and horizontal windlasses, and wonder which brand would fit best, given that the bow is already crowded (and the windlass needs to fit under the self-tacking jib. The anchor locker is also relatively small. A vertical windlass (like Lewmar) would minimize the space occupied on-deck, given that the motor can be installed below. But is there room in the anchor locker? Thanks in advance for your input.PaulSV Bagatelle Freedom 30/32
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