Posted by mitbok1 (mitbok1@…>)
Thinking of getting a furling jib on my boat. Can any one point me in
the right direction of what kind to buy, what has to be done with my
current jib and how much do I have to spend ? I grasped the idea how it
works on the big boats with head stays and sail truck for the jib but
clueless how it would work with nothing but a halyard on Freedom 21
Posted by axel thorson (hjulbyhavn@…>)
A roller jib would not be of much use as you don’t
really need a jib nor gain much from having one as
soon as the wind gets to 10Mph.
The mast is thick and that makes it particularly
inefficient in light air - a roller jib is not that
efficient when rolled partially.
You need a nice efficient jib that you can get enough
tension on to fly with a clean edge to make up for the
mast. You can rig a retrieving line on such a jib and
leave it on the foredeck when it is not in use.
— mitbok1 <mitbok1@…> wrote:
Thinking of getting a furling jib on my boat. Can
any one point me in
the right direction of what kind to buy, what has to
be done with my
current jib and how much do I have to spend ? I
grasped the idea how it
works on the big boats with head stays and sail
truck for the jib but
clueless how it would work with nothing but a
halyard on Freedom 21
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Posted by Tom Falcone (freedomt21@…>)
In regards to your question the stay sail is used in winds up to around 12 knots . It greatly improves light air performance .It hoist on the spinnaker halyard . The roller fuller is a Harken 431 which mounts on bail of the spinnaker sleeve . mitbok1 <mitbok1@…> wrote: Thinking of getting a furling jib on my boat. Can any one point me in the right direction of what kind to buy, what has to be done with my current jib and how much do I have to spend ? I grasped the idea how it works on the big boats with head stays and sail truck for the jib but clueless how it would work with nothing but a halyard on Freedom 21
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Posted by mitya fonin (mitbok1@…>)
I do have a genoa already. I use it to go up wind but since it becomes almost useless on reach and downwind runs, I have to take it down. That requires going on the bow and kind of disintegrates the whole idea of single handling from the cockpit. Given that I have to change course often, most of the time I don’t even use the staysail rather than run it up and down.
Harken furler requires luff wire to be attached to the sail. Is it possible to sew in the wire I have on my staysail ? I have a separate jib halyard, can it twist when sail is furled/unfurled?
Also can this furler system be used to reef the jib ?Tom Falcone <freedomt21@…> wrote:
In regards to your question the stay sail is used in winds up to around 12 knots . It greatly improves light air performance .It hoist on the spinnaker halyard . The roller fuller is a Harken 431 which mounts on bail of the spinnaker sleeve . mitbok1 <mitbok1@…> wrote: Thinking of getting a furling jib on my boat. Can any one point me in the right direction of what kind to buy, what has to be done with my current jib and how much do I have to spend ? I grasped the idea how it works on the big boats with head stays and sail truck for the jib but clueless how it would work with nothing but a halyard on Freedom 21
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Posted by Charlie L. (clivaday@…>)
I used a Harken 1821 furler on both of my F 21s. I now use one on my
F
25. The top swivel attaches to the halyard, and the drum to the eye
on
top of the gunmount tube, or to the ring on the end of the retracted
pole. The Harken 1821 has a snap shackle on the bottom, so it is easy
to attach and detach it. Once you have one, you’ll wonder how you
ever
got along without it-especially single handing. A sailmaker can sew a
high tech no-stretch line to the leading edge/luff, and to the eyes
on the head and tack of your staysail.
The line is much more user friendly than a wire. When you leave the
dock the furled sail is already hoisted and ready to use. When you
return the sail is furled and ready to drop into your hatch-still
attached to the drum, which you release with the snap shackle. The
furling line is small enough to go through the hatch, and will not
prevent the hatch cover from sealing against rain. Use a "quick
release
pin to attach the top of the sail to the upper swivel, and it takes
one
second to remove it as you drop the entire furled sail down the
hatch.
You can reef the jib with the furler, and it works fine if you’re not
a
serious racer. It is possible to rig the staysail, so that you
can “haul it out” to the rail, and use it to add much speed and power
on reaches and even downwind. Enough for now, but I’ll give more info
on the entire rig if you want. Charlie
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “mitbok1” <mitbok1@y…>
wrote:
Thinking of getting a furling jib on my boat. Can any one point me
in
the right direction of what kind to buy, what has to be done with
my
current jib and how much do I have to spend ? I grasped the idea
how
it
works on the big boats with head stays and sail truck for the jib
but
clueless how it would work with nothing but a halyard on Freedom 21