Posted by Kevin Taylor (kevin683@…>)
Hi,
I took the F32 out last weekend with the family. Winds were 8-10 knots.
I had a heck of a time raising the mainsail. The top (small) batten
kept getting caught up by the lazy jack system. That is the only one
that seems to cause problems, so I am thinking of just removing it.
Thanks for your thoughts.
–Kevin
Posted by Thomas Wales (twales@…>)
Kevin,
Don’t do it !!! When you raise the sail, be headed dead into the
wind and raise the sail quickly when the batten is between the lazy
jacks. All you need to do is work on your technique. If you remove the
batten, the top of your sail will flap incessently and you’ll lose
performance. You can do it !
By the way, we sailed Sat. in 25Kts. First time I reefed the
main. Still cranked along at 6.5 K on a beam reach. What fun…
Good luck,
TW F32 Anoush Koon
Pemaquid, ME
At 03:16 PM 9/7/2006 -0500, you wrote:
Hi,
I took the F32 out last weekend with the family. Winds were 8-10 knots.
I had a heck of a time raising the mainsail. The top (small) batten
kept getting caught up by the lazy jack system. That is the only one
that seems to cause problems, so I am thinking of just removing it.Thanks for your thoughts.
–Kevin
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Posted by Militello, Milo (milo.militello@…>)
Kevin –
I would strongly recommend you keep the
top batten in as you will lose the integrity of your sail shape.
When putting the mainsail on the mast at
the beginning of the season, liberally spray SailKote on every sail slug as you
feed it into the mast. It will make raising the sail much easier and allow you
to get passed the lazy jack with a swift pull of the halyard when raising the
sail. Make sure the boat is head to wind – very important with a full
batten main.
Good luck,
Milo
Hoyt F32 island blues
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Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006
4:17 PM
To:
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Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Small
Batten
Hi,
I took the F32 out last weekend with the family. Winds were 8-10 knots.
I had a heck of a time raising the mainsail. The top (small) batten
kept getting caught up by the lazy jack system. That is the only one
that seems to cause problems, so I am thinking of just removing it.
Thanks for your thoughts.
–Kevin
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Posted by Alan Kusinitz (akusinitz@…>)
I agree. May take a little adjusting of the lazy jack tension also helps to
ease the sheet so as the wind shifts the sail can stay centered. Also some
care when furling the sail so the batten is centered over the boom can help.
I usually head into to the wind, watch the sail and raise the first part
very fast if it its centered so it doesn’t flutter and snag. With the sheet
loose I’ve done this without being head into the wind as well.
Alan F-33 Hull #51 1982
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[mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Wales
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 4:37 PM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Small Batten
Kevin,
Don’t do it !!! When you raise the sail, be headed dead into the
wind and raise the sail quickly when the batten is between the lazy
jacks. All you need to do is work on your technique. If you remove the
batten, the top of your sail will flap incessently and you’ll lose
performance. You can do it !
By the way, we sailed Sat. in 25Kts. First time I reefed the
main. Still cranked along at 6.5 K on a beam reach. What fun…
Good luck,
TW F32 Anoush Koon
Pemaquid, ME
At 03:16 PM 9/7/2006 -0500, you wrote:
Hi,
I took the F32 out last weekend with the family. Winds were 8-10 knots.
I had a heck of a time raising the mainsail. The top (small) batten
kept getting caught up by the lazy jack system. That is the only one
that seems to cause problems, so I am thinking of just removing it.Thanks for your thoughts.
–Kevin
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Posted by Dave_Benjamin (dave_benjamin@…>)
If you keep the boat headed into the wind you won’t have that problem.
A rigid vang will give you added flexibility of being able to not rely
so much on the lazy jacks. Just be sure to mount it with a proper
collar on the mast.
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Kevin Taylor” <kevin683@…>
wrote:
Hi,
I took the F32 out last weekend with the family. Winds were 8-10
knots.I had a heck of a time raising the mainsail. The top (small) batten
kept getting caught up by the lazy jack system. That is the only one
that seems to cause problems, so I am thinking of just removing it.Thanks for your thoughts.
–Kevin
Posted by jerry weinraub (zayde@…>)
I solved this problem by using hard vangs,and leading the jacks forward on
the boom,tucking the jacks under a cleat I fastened to the underside. After
making sail,I cast them off and procede as before. The vangs support the
booms. Been using this for 6 years without a problem. Garhauer made the
vangs and the mast collars for a VERY good price. I can be off the wind by
30 degrees and still make sail.
----- Original Message -----
From: “Thomas Wales” <twales@…>
To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Small Batten
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Kevin,
Don’t do it !!! When you raise the sail, be headed dead into the
wind and raise the sail quickly when the batten is between the lazy
jacks. All you need to do is work on your technique. If you remove the
batten, the top of your sail will flap incessently and you’ll lose
performance. You can do it !
By the way, we sailed Sat. in 25Kts. First time I reefed the
main. Still cranked along at 6.5 K on a beam reach. What fun…
Good luck,
TW F32 Anoush Koon
Pemaquid, MEAt 03:16 PM 9/7/2006 -0500, you wrote:
Hi,
I took the F32 out last weekend with the family. Winds were 8-10 knots.
I had a heck of a time raising the mainsail. The top (small) batten
kept getting caught up by the lazy jack system. That is the only one
that seems to cause problems, so I am thinking of just removing it.Thanks for your thoughts.
–Kevin
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Posted by jerry weinraub (zayde@…>)
Posted in this mess last fall was a pic of a homemade gizmo to carry a can of sailkote up the mast so the sailtrack can be lubed from ther deck. I made one ,and it works like a charm. When my PC crashed I lost the pic,otherwise I’d post it. Worth the while making it over the winter. The cost was less than $10. If someone has the pic,praps they would post it.
----- Original Message -----
From: jerry weinraub
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Small Batten
I solved this problem by using hard vangs,and leading the jacks forward on the boom,tucking the jacks under a cleat I fastened to the underside. After making sail,I cast them off and procede as before. The vangs support the booms. Been using this for 6 years without a problem. Garhauer made the vangs and the mast collars for a VERY good price. I can be off the wind by 30 degrees and still make sail.----- Original Message ----- From: “Thomas Wales” <twales@adelphia.net>To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 4:37 PMSubject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Small Batten> Kevin,> Don’t do it !!! When you raise the sail, be headed dead into the> wind and raise the sail quickly when the batten is between the lazy> jacks. All you need to do is work on your technique. If you remove the> batten, the top of your sail will flap incessently and you’ll lose> performance. You can do it !> By the way, we sailed Sat. in 25Kts. First time I reefed the> main. Still cranked along at 6.5 K on a beam reach. What fun…> Good luck,> TW F32 Anoush Koon> Pemaquid, ME>>>> At 03:16 PM 9/7/2006 -0500, you wrote:>>>Hi,>>>>I took the F32 out last weekend with the family. Winds were 8-10 knots.>>>>I had a heck of a time raising the mainsail. The top (small) batten>>kept getting caught up by the lazy jack system. That is the only one>>that seems to cause problems, so I am thinking of just removing it.>>>>Thanks for your thoughts.>>>>–Kevin>>>>>>No virus found in this incoming message.>>Checked by AVG Free Edition.>>Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.1/440 - Release Date: 9/6/2006>---------------------------------------------------------->---------------------------------------------------------->>> No virus found in this outgoing message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition.> Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.1/440 - Release Date: 9/6/2006>
Posted by Jay T. Reed (reedjayt@…>)
Kevin
I had the same problem when I first started sailing my 35. The harkin
website has some directions on using shock cord to pull the lazy jacks
forward when released, but I just lengthened the line on the lazy jacks, so
I could fully release them just before I raise the main. It works like a
charm. Once the main is up, I retighten the lazy jacks.
Jay
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From: “Kevin Taylor” <kevin683@…>
Reply-To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Small Batten
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 15:16:55 -0500Hi,
I took the F32 out last weekend with the family. Winds were 8-10 knots.
I had a heck of a time raising the mainsail. The top (small) batten
kept getting caught up by the lazy jack system. That is the only one
that seems to cause problems, so I am thinking of just removing it.Thanks for your thoughts.
–Kevin
Posted by harv1752 (harv17@…>)
Jerry;
the picturre is refered to in Msg. #4896. If you goto msg seearch
you will find the url of the picture.
Harv, F-25, #50, '82
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, jerry weinraub <zayde@…>
wrote:
Posted in this mess last fall was a pic of a homemade gizmo to carry
a can of sailkote up the mast so the sailtrack can be lubed from ther
deck. I made one ,and it works like a charm. When my PC crashed I lost
the pic,otherwise I’d post it. Worth the while making it over the
winter. The cost was less than $10. If someone has the pic,praps they
would post it.
----- Original Message -----
From: jerry weinraub
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
…snip___
Posted by jerry weinraub (zayde@…>)
I lost all data. I cannot retrieve as you suggest as it is not on my computer
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From: harv1752
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 3:04 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Small Batten
Jerry;the picturre is refered to in Msg. #4896. If you goto msg seearch you will find the url of the picture.Harv, F-25, #50, '82— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, jerry weinraub <zayde@…> wrote:>> Posted in this mess last fall was a pic of a homemade gizmo to carry a can of sailkote up the mast so the sailtrack can be lubed from ther deck. I made one ,and it works like a charm. When my PC crashed I lost the pic,otherwise I’d post it. Worth the while making it over the winter. The cost was less than $10. If someone has the pic,praps they would post it.> ----- Original Message ----- > From: jerry weinraub > To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com …snip___
Posted by harv1752 (harv17@…>)
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, jerry weinraub <zayde@…>
wrote:
I lost all data. I cannot retrieve as you suggest as it is not
on my computer
----- Original Message -----
From: harv1752
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 3:04 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Small BattenJerry;
the picturre is refered to in Msg. #4896. If you goto msg
seearch
you will find the url of the picture.
Harv, F-25, #50, '82— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, jerry weinraub
<zayde@>
wrote:Posted in this mess last fall was a pic of a homemade gizmo to
carry
a can of sailkote up the mast so the sailtrack can be lubed from
ther
deck. I made one ,and it works like a charm. When my PC crashed
I lost
the pic,otherwise I’d post it. Worth the while making it over
the
winter. The cost was less than $10. If someone has the pic,praps
they
would post it.
----- Original Message -----
From: jerry weinraub
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
…snip___
Jerry;
I posted a picture of the gadget in the Photo section, but somehow
it became attached to the wrong album. It’s listed in the new
photos.
Harv S/V Invicta II, F-25, #50
Posted by jerry weinraub (zayde@…>)
Got it. Thank you. This is a gadget that really works
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From: harv1752
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 11:54 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Small Batten
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, jerry weinraub <zayde@…> wrote:>> I lost all data. I cannot retrieve as you suggest as it is not on my computer> ----- Original Message ----- > From: harv1752 > To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 3:04 PM> Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Small Batten> > > Jerry;> the picturre is refered to in Msg. #4896. If you goto msg seearch > you will find the url of the picture.> Harv, F-25, #50, '82> > — In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, jerry weinraub <zayde@> > wrote:> >> > Posted in this mess last fall was a pic of a homemade gizmo to carry > a can of sailkote up the mast so the sailtrack can be lubed from ther > deck. I made one ,and it works like a charm. When my PC crashed I lost > the pic,otherwise I’d post it. Worth the while making it over the > winter. The cost was less than $10. If someone has the pic,praps they > would post it.> > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: jerry weinraub > > To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com > …snip___>Jerry;I posted a picture of the gadget in the Photo section, but somehow it became attached to the wrong album. It’s listed in the new photos.Harv S/V Invicta II, F-25, #50