Posted by sew4you100 (sew4you100@…>)
I have been talking to Haarstick re a new mainsail and jib. I asked
him for a price on a “stackpack” but he suggested lazy jacks that I
pull forward behind the mast when raising the sail and for installing
the sail cover. With my present system of lazy jacks the sail tends
to fall of of the boom. Can anybody help with their experience of
stackpaack versus the Haarstick method?
Dave Corcoran
36 freedom
ha
Posted by William A. Cormack (wacormack@…>)
I’ve had a Doyle stack pack on my previous boat, a Tartan 30, and loved it. It takes all the hassle out of going sailing. Before stack pack I would think: I have 2 hours to go sailing, I’ve got to get the:
sail uncovered
stow cover
untied
hoisted
sailed
lowered
gathered
tied
retrieve cover
covered
Maybe I’ll go later when I have more time.
With the stack pack:
Unzip
Hoist
sail
drop
Zip
Let’s go now! It’ll only take a few minutes.
Can’t wait until budget allows new sails and it will definitely be a stack pack.
By the way, I would appreciate it if you could share the quotes you are getting.
Bill
s/v Hard Earned F36 1981
----- Original Message -----
From: sew4you100
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 11/09/2006 9:40 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] “stackpack”
I have been talking to Haarstick re a new mainsail and jib. I asked him for a price on a “stackpack” but he suggested lazy jacks that I pull forward behind the mast when raising the sail and for installing the sail cover. With my present system of lazy jacks the sail tends to fall of of the boom. Can anybody help with their experience of stackpaack versus the Haarstick method?Dave Corcoran 36 freedomha
Posted by Dave_Benjamin (dave_benjamin@…>)
StackPack is a Doyle Sails product. That’s why Haarstick recommended
lazy jacks. I think Haarstick offers a superior sail compared to
Doyle which is yet another Chinese sail manufacturer. You might
however talk to a local Doyle loft about setting you up with a
StackPack after you get your new main from Haarstick or whoever you
choose.
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “sew4you100”
<sew4you100@…> wrote:
I have been talking to Haarstick re a new mainsail and jib. I
asked
him for a price on a “stackpack” but he suggested lazy jacks that I
pull forward behind the mast when raising the sail and for
installing
the sail cover. With my present system of lazy jacks the sail
tends
to fall of of the boom. Can anybody help with their experience of
stackpaack versus the Haarstick method?Dave Corcoran
36 freedomha
Posted by Lorman, Alvin J. (ajlorman@…>)
You might also look into the Mack Pack: http://macksails.com/mackpack.htm
Al Lorman
F30 Ab Initio
-----Original Message-----From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave_BenjaminSent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:44 PMTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: “stackpack”
StackPack is a Doyle Sails product. That’s why Haarstick recommended lazy jacks. I think Haarstick offers a superior sail compared to Doyle which is yet another Chinese sail manufacturer. You might however talk to a local Doyle loft about setting you up with a StackPack after you get your new main from Haarstick or whoever you choose.— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “sew4you100” <sew4you100@…> wrote:>> I have been talking to Haarstick re a new mainsail and jib. I asked > him for a price on a “stackpack” but he suggested lazy jacks that I > pull forward behind the mast when raising the sail and for installing > the sail cover. With my present system of lazy jacks the sail tends > to fall of of the boom. Can anybody help with their experience of > stackpaack versus the Haarstick method?> > Dave Corcoran > 36 freedom> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ha>
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Posted by Alan Kusinitz (akusinitz@…>)
On my F-33 I have mack packs on my main
and mizzen. It’s a huge improvement saving a lot of time and hassle with
sailcovers. Lazyjacks are part of it. With the full battened roach and no
topping lift the lazy jack portion is still required. There are many similar
concepts but anything that gets rid of the separate sail covers is the key.
Alan
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9:40 AM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003]
“stackpack”
I have been talking to Haarstick re a new mainsail and
jib. I asked
him for a price on a “stackpack” but he suggested lazy jacks that I
pull forward behind the mast when raising the sail and for installing
the sail cover. With my present system of lazy jacks the sail tends
to fall of of the boom. Can anybody help with their experience of
stackpaack versus the Haarstick method?
Dave Corcoran
36 freedom
ha
\
Posted by Fred Molden (fredmolden@…>)
I am having North Sails do a “Quick Cover” for my F35, http://www.northsails.com/north_america/Cruising_Sails/QuickCover.htm. Rob Pennington is my point of contact out of Annapolis. The Quick Cover has integral Lazy Jacks. A friend with a Bristol 41.1 has had this cover for the past year and is very pleased by it. He is also having a glass of wine while I am still putting covers on. I will post as the project progresses.
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Kusinitz
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:53 PM
Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] “stackpack”
On my F-33 I have mack packs on my main and mizzen. It’s a huge improvement saving a lot of time and hassle with sailcovers. Lazyjacks are part of it. With the full battened roach and no topping lift the lazy jack portion is still required. There are many similar concepts but anything that gets rid of the separate sail covers is the key.
Alan
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From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sew4you100Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:40 AMTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: [freedomyachts2003] “stackpack”
I have been talking to Haarstick re a new mainsail and jib. I asked him for a price on a “stackpack” but he suggested lazy jacks that I pull forward behind the mast when raising the sail and for installing the sail cover. With my present system of lazy jacks the sail tends to fall of of the boom. Can anybody help with their experience of stackpaack versus the Haarstick method?Dave Corcoran 36 freedomha
Posted by jerry weinraub (zayde@…>)
DO THEY PROTECT THE SAIL FROM SUN AND RAIN?
----- Original Message -----
From: Fred Molden
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] “stackpack”
I am having North Sails do a “Quick Cover” for my F35, http://www.northsails.com/north_america/Cruising_Sails/QuickCover.htm. Rob Pennington is my point of contact out of Annapolis. The Quick Cover has integral Lazy Jacks. A friend with a Bristol 41.1 has had this cover for the past year and is very pleased by it. He is also having a glass of wine while I am still putting covers on. I will post as the project progresses.
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Kusinitz
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:53 PM
Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] “stackpack”
On my F-33 I have mack packs on my main and mizzen. It’s a huge improvement saving a lot of time and hassle with sailcovers. Lazyjacks are part of it. With the full battened roach and no topping lift the lazy jack portion is still required. There are many similar concepts but anything that gets rid of the separate sail covers is the key.
Alan
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From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sew4you100Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:40 AMTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: [freedomyachts2003] “stackpack”
I have been talking to Haarstick re a new mainsail and jib. I asked him for a price on a “stackpack” but he suggested lazy jacks that I pull forward behind the mast when raising the sail and for installing the sail cover. With my present system of lazy jacks the sail tends to fall of of the boom. Can anybody help with their experience of stackpaack versus the Haarstick method?Dave Corcoran 36 freedomha
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Posted by Dave_Benjamin (dave_benjamin@…>)
Looks like a pretty nice system but since it slides into the track on
the boom our friends with boltrope on the foot of their main might be
out of luck.
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Fred Molden”
<fredmolden@…> wrote:
I am having North Sails do a “Quick Cover” for my F35,
http://www.northsails.com/north_america/Cruising_Sails/QuickCover.htm.
Rob Pennington is my point of contact out of Annapolis. The Quick
Cover has integral Lazy Jacks. A friend with a Bristol 41.1 has had
this cover for the past year and is very pleased by it. He is also
having a glass of wine while I am still putting covers on. I will
post as the project progresses.
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Kusinitz
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:53 PM
Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] “stackpack”On my F-33 I have mack packs on my main and mizzen. It’s a huge
improvement saving a lot of time and hassle with sailcovers.
Lazyjacks are part of it. With the full battened roach and no topping
lift the lazy jack portion is still required. There are many similar
concepts but anything that gets rid of the separate sail covers is
the key.Alan
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Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:40 AM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] “stackpack”I have been talking to Haarstick re a new mainsail and jib. I
asked
him for a price on a “stackpack” but he suggested lazy jacks that
I
pull forward behind the mast when raising the sail and for
installing
the sail cover. With my present system of lazy jacks the sail
tends
to fall of of the boom. Can anybody help with their experience of
stackpaack versus the Haarstick method?Dave Corcoran
36 freedomha
Posted by Fred Molden (fredmolden@…>)
Yes, the cover goes around the sail and has a zipper up the middle. There is also a single piece that goes around the mast and connects to the cover. There are photos on the referenced web site.
----- Original Message -----
From: jerry weinraub
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] “stackpack”
DO THEY PROTECT THE SAIL FROM SUN AND RAIN?
----- Original Message -----
From: Fred Molden
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] “stackpack”
I am having North Sails do a “Quick Cover” for my F35, http://www.northsails.com/north_america/Cruising_Sails/QuickCover.htm. Rob Pennington is my point of contact out of Annapolis. The Quick Cover has integral Lazy Jacks. A friend with a Bristol 41.1 has had this cover for the past year and is very pleased by it. He is also having a glass of wine while I am still putting covers on. I will post as the project progresses.
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Kusinitz
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:53 PM
Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] “stackpack”
On my F-33 I have mack packs on my main and mizzen. It’s a huge improvement saving a lot of time and hassle with sailcovers. Lazyjacks are part of it. With the full battened roach and no topping lift the lazy jack portion is still required. There are many similar concepts but anything that gets rid of the separate sail covers is the key.
Alan
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I have been talking to Haarstick re a new mainsail and jib. I asked him for a price on a “stackpack” but he suggested lazy jacks that I pull forward behind the mast when raising the sail and for installing the sail cover. With my present system of lazy jacks the sail tends to fall of of the boom. Can anybody help with their experience of stackpaack versus the Haarstick method?Dave Corcoran 36 freedomha
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Posted by Fred Molden (fredmolden@…>)
I also have a bolt rope in the foot and will have the main cut to a loose
foot (~$200). That should also make it easier to put the main on and off.
----- Original Message -----
From: “Dave_Benjamin” <dave_benjamin@…>
To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 7:09 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: “stackpack”
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Looks like a pretty nice system but since it slides into the track on
the boom our friends with boltrope on the foot of their main might be
out of luck.— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Fred Molden”
<fredmolden@…> wrote:I am having North Sails do a “Quick Cover” for my F35,
http://www.northsails.com/north_america/Cruising_Sails/QuickCover.htm.
Rob Pennington is my point of contact out of Annapolis. The Quick
Cover has integral Lazy Jacks. A friend with a Bristol 41.1 has had
this cover for the past year and is very pleased by it. He is also
having a glass of wine while I am still putting covers on. I will
post as the project progresses.
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Kusinitz
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:53 PM
Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] “stackpack”On my F-33 I have mack packs on my main and mizzen. It’s a huge
improvement saving a lot of time and hassle with sailcovers.
Lazyjacks are part of it. With the full battened roach and no topping
lift the lazy jack portion is still required. There are many similar
concepts but anything that gets rid of the separate sail covers is
the key.Alan
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Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:40 AM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] “stackpack”I have been talking to Haarstick re a new mainsail and jib. I
asked
him for a price on a “stackpack” but he suggested lazy jacks that
I
pull forward behind the mast when raising the sail and for
installing
the sail cover. With my present system of lazy jacks the sail
tends
to fall of of the boom. Can anybody help with their experience of
stackpaack versus the Haarstick method?Dave Corcoran
36 freedomha
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Posted by Dave_Benjamin (dave_benjamin@…>)
I’d also consider just installing slugs on the foot. Converting a
boltrope main to loose foot doesn’t help much for performance because
the foot curve is quite a bit different on a main that is built as a
loose foot to begin with. By installing slugs on the foot you’ll get
the gap you need between the foot and boom. You’ll also subject the
clew and tack to less stress. Alternatively you could have your
sailmaker change the lower panel of the sail to give you better shape
and performance. Be sure and address the increased loads on the clew
if you do convert. Ask your sailmaker what he plans to do. There
should be more involved than just hacking off the boltrope and
installing a section of tape.
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Fred Molden”
<fredmolden@…> wrote:
I also have a bolt rope in the foot and will have the main cut to a
loose
foot (~$200). That should also make it easier to put the main on
and off.
----- Original Message -----
From: “Dave_Benjamin” <dave_benjamin@…>
To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 7:09 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: “stackpack”Looks like a pretty nice system but since it slides into the
track on
the boom our friends with boltrope on the foot of their main
might be
out of luck.— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Fred Molden”
<fredmolden@> wrote:I am having North Sails do a “Quick Cover” for my F35,
http://www.northsails.com/north_america/Cruising_Sails/QuickCover.htm.
Rob Pennington is my point of contact out of Annapolis. The
Quick
Cover has integral Lazy Jacks. A friend with a Bristol 41.1 has
had
this cover for the past year and is very pleased by it. He is
also
having a glass of wine while I am still putting covers on. I will
post as the project progresses.----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Kusinitz
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:53 PM
Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] “stackpack”On my F-33 I have mack packs on my main and mizzen. It’s a huge
improvement saving a lot of time and hassle with sailcovers.
Lazyjacks are part of it. With the full battened roach and no
topping
lift the lazy jack portion is still required. There are many
similar
concepts but anything that gets rid of the separate sail covers is
the key.Alan
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Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:40 AM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] “stackpack”I have been talking to Haarstick re a new mainsail and jib. I
asked
him for a price on a “stackpack” but he suggested lazy jacks
that
I
pull forward behind the mast when raising the sail and for
installing
the sail cover. With my present system of lazy jacks the sail
tends
to fall of of the boom. Can anybody help with their experience
of
stackpaack versus the Haarstick method?Dave Corcoran
36 freedomha
Yahoo! Groups Links
Posted by Thomas Wales (twales@…>)
I had my main cut last winter to a loose foot. My sailmaker gave me a
velcro strap which goes through the clew and wraps around the boom, instead
of a slug for the clew. It worked great and I was able to get much better
sail shape when reaching and running.
TW F32#20
Anoush Koon
At 03:36 AM 11/10/2006 +0000, you wrote:
I’d also consider just installing slugs on the foot. Converting a
boltrope main to loose foot doesn’t help much for performance because
the foot curve is quite a bit different on a main that is built as a
loose foot to begin with. By installing slugs on the foot you’ll get
the gap you need between the foot and boom. You’ll also subject the
clew and tack to less stress. Alternatively you could have your
sailmaker change the lower panel of the sail to give you better shape
and performance. Be sure and address the increased loads on the clew
if you do convert. Ask your sailmaker what he plans to do. There
should be more involved than just hacking off the boltrope and
installing a section of tape.— In
mailto:freedomyachts2003%40yahoogroups.comfreedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com,
“Fred Molden”
<fredmolden@…> wrote:I also have a bolt rope in the foot and will have the main cut to a
loose
foot (~$200). That should also make it easier to put the main on
and off.
----- Original Message -----
From: “Dave_Benjamin” <dave_benjamin@…>
To:
<mailto:freedomyachts2003%40yahoogroups.comfreedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 7:09 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: “stackpack”Looks like a pretty nice system but since it slides into the
track on
the boom our friends with boltrope on the foot of their main
might be
out of luck.— In
mailto:freedomyachts2003%40yahoogroups.comfreedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com,
“Fred Molden”
<fredmolden@> wrote:I am having North Sails do a “Quick Cover” for my F35,
<http://www.northsails.com/north_america/Cruising_Sails/QuickCover.htm.>http://
www.northsails.com/north_america/Cruising_Sails/QuickCover.htm.Rob Pennington is my point of contact out of Annapolis. The
Quick
Cover has integral Lazy Jacks. A friend with a Bristol 41.1 has
had
this cover for the past year and is very pleased by it. He is
also
having a glass of wine while I am still putting covers on. I will
post as the project progresses.----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Kusinitz
To:
mailto:freedomyachts2003%40yahoogroups.comfreedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:53 PM
Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] “stackpack”On my F-33 I have mack packs on my main and mizzen. It’s a huge
improvement saving a lot of time and hassle with sailcovers.
Lazyjacks are part of it. With the full battened roach and no
topping
lift the lazy jack portion is still required. There are many
similar
concepts but anything that gets rid of the separate sail covers is
the key.Alan
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Subject: [freedomyachts2003] “stackpack”I have been talking to Haarstick re a new mainsail and jib. I
asked
him for a price on a “stackpack” but he suggested lazy jacks
that
I
pull forward behind the mast when raising the sail and for
installing
the sail cover. With my present system of lazy jacks the sail
tends
to fall of of the boom. Can anybody help with their experience
of
stackpaack versus the Haarstick method?Dave Corcoran
36 freedomha
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Posted by macks011 (macks04@…>)
My 36 is equipped with a "Mack Pack"and I am not convinced that it
is any better than a regular sail cover. However, what I did like
about it is the improved lazyjack system that came with it.
As for the question about the sail falling off the boom, that is a
function of the proper adjustment of the lazy jacks. At no time do I
slacken the jacks and move them forward. I adjust my jacks so they
are taut when the boom is cranked down to the dodger top. When
hoisting, I release the vang and the main sheet. The boom rises,
slackening the jacks and I hoist into the wind and rarely have a
problem with snagging. Under sail, the jacks are loose enough as to
not interfere with or chafe on the sail. When dowsing the main, I
crank the boom dow to the dodger top, tightening the jacks and the
sail comes down right on top of the boom.
Another reason the sail falls off the boom is the geometry of the
lazyjacks. Most of the unsuported weight of the sail is in the aft
end. Forward the sail is held by the mast track attachment. Many
lazyjack systems divide the boom into equal segements when in truth,
the jack legs should be favored more to the aft end of the boom and
the stern leg should be placed so it keeps the aft end of the sail
on the boom.
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “sew4you100”
<sew4you100@…> wrote:
I have been talking to Haarstick re a new mainsail and jib. I
asked
him for a price on a “stackpack” but he suggested lazy jacks that
I
pull forward behind the mast when raising the sail and for
installing
the sail cover. With my present system of lazy jacks the sail
tends
to fall of of the boom. Can anybody help with their experience of
stackpaack versus the Haarstick method?Dave Corcoran
36 freedomha
Posted by sitchmo (sylvanm@…>)
Fred - This looks very interesting. I have a Freedom 35 as well and
would be interested in adding this to my boat.
Do you know what the total cost will be?
While under sail what do you do with the clew of the sail cover? I am
assuming you do not have a topping lift.
Thanks -
Mac
Apsara
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Fred Molden”
<fredmolden@…> wrote:
I also have a bolt rope in the foot and will have the main cut to a
loose
foot (~$200). That should also make it easier to put the main on
and off.
----- Original Message -----
From: “Dave_Benjamin” <dave_benjamin@…>
To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 7:09 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: “stackpack”Looks like a pretty nice system but since it slides into the track on
the boom our friends with boltrope on the foot of their main might be
out of luck.— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Fred Molden”
<fredmolden@> wrote:I am having North Sails do a “Quick Cover” for my F35,
http://www.northsails.com/north_america/Cruising_Sails/QuickCover.htm.
Rob Pennington is my point of contact out of Annapolis. The Quick
Cover has integral Lazy Jacks. A friend with a Bristol 41.1 has had
this cover for the past year and is very pleased by it. He is also
having a glass of wine while I am still putting covers on. I will
post as the project progresses.
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Kusinitz
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:53 PM
Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] “stackpack”On my F-33 I have mack packs on my main and mizzen. It’s a huge
improvement saving a lot of time and hassle with sailcovers.
Lazyjacks are part of it. With the full battened roach and no topping
lift the lazy jack portion is still required. There are many similar
concepts but anything that gets rid of the separate sail covers is
the key.Alan
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Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:40 AM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] “stackpack”I have been talking to Haarstick re a new mainsail and jib. I
asked
him for a price on a “stackpack” but he suggested lazy jacks that
I
pull forward behind the mast when raising the sail and for
installing
the sail cover. With my present system of lazy jacks the sail
tends
to fall of of the boom. Can anybody help with their experience of
stackpaack versus the Haarstick method?Dave Corcoran
36 freedomha
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Posted by Fred Molden (fredmolden@…>)
The entire length of clew and sail cover is suspended between the bolt rope
on the bottom and lazy jacks on top and the cover remains in place while
sailing. The lazy jacks are connected to the sail cover by battens that
run the length of the sail cover on either side. Only the piece that goes
around the front of the mast is removed.
Total cost should be about $1400 for the cover and cutting the loose foot in
the mainsail. North will also do the installation (add $400) or you can do
it yourself. Installation includes changing the lazy jacks from the
standard two to four per side.
----- Original Message -----
From: “sitchmo” <sylvanm@…>
To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 8:14 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: “stackpack”
\
Fred - This looks very interesting. I have a Freedom 35 as well and
would be interested in adding this to my boat.Do you know what the total cost will be?
While under sail what do you do with the clew of the sail cover? I am
assuming you do not have a topping lift.Thanks -
Mac
Apsara— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Fred Molden”
<fredmolden@…> wrote:I also have a bolt rope in the foot and will have the main cut to a
loose
foot (~$200). That should also make it easier to put the main on
and off.
----- Original Message -----
From: “Dave_Benjamin” <dave_benjamin@…>
To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 7:09 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: “stackpack”Looks like a pretty nice system but since it slides into the track on
the boom our friends with boltrope on the foot of their main might be
out of luck.— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Fred Molden”
<fredmolden@> wrote:I am having North Sails do a “Quick Cover” for my F35,
http://www.northsails.com/north_america/Cruising_Sails/QuickCover.htm.
Rob Pennington is my point of contact out of Annapolis. The Quick
Cover has integral Lazy Jacks. A friend with a Bristol 41.1 has had
this cover for the past year and is very pleased by it. He is also
having a glass of wine while I am still putting covers on. I will
post as the project progresses.
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Kusinitz
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:53 PM
Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] “stackpack”On my F-33 I have mack packs on my main and mizzen. It’s a huge
improvement saving a lot of time and hassle with sailcovers.
Lazyjacks are part of it. With the full battened roach and no topping
lift the lazy jack portion is still required. There are many similar
concepts but anything that gets rid of the separate sail covers is
the key.Alan
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Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:40 AM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] “stackpack”I have been talking to Haarstick re a new mainsail and jib. I
asked
him for a price on a “stackpack” but he suggested lazy jacks that
I
pull forward behind the mast when raising the sail and for
installing
the sail cover. With my present system of lazy jacks the sail
tends
to fall of of the boom. Can anybody help with their experience of
stackpaack versus the Haarstick method?Dave Corcoran
36 freedomha
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Posted by sitchmo (sylvanm@…>)
Fred - Thanks for the speedy resonse. Pardon my ignorance on this
subject, but if the foot is cut completely loose, then is it secure
only at the tack and the clew?
Thanks - Mac
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Fred Molden”
<fredmolden@…> wrote:
The entire length of clew and sail cover is suspended between the
bolt rope
on the bottom and lazy jacks on top and the cover remains in place
while
sailing. The lazy jacks are connected to the sail cover by battens
that
run the length of the sail cover on either side. Only the piece
that goes
around the front of the mast is removed.Total cost should be about $1400 for the cover and cutting the loose
foot in
the mainsail. North will also do the installation (add $400) or you
can do
it yourself. Installation includes changing the lazy jacks from the
standard two to four per side.----- Original Message -----
From: “sitchmo” <sylvanm@…>
To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 8:14 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: “stackpack”Fred - This looks very interesting. I have a Freedom 35 as well and
would be interested in adding this to my boat.Do you know what the total cost will be?
While under sail what do you do with the clew of the sail cover? I am
assuming you do not have a topping lift.Thanks -
Mac
Apsara— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Fred Molden”
<fredmolden@> wrote:I also have a bolt rope in the foot and will have the main cut to a
loose
foot (~$200). That should also make it easier to put the main on
and off.
----- Original Message -----
From: “Dave_Benjamin” <dave_benjamin@>
To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 7:09 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: “stackpack”Looks like a pretty nice system but since it slides into the
track on
the boom our friends with boltrope on the foot of their main
might be
out of luck.— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Fred Molden”
<fredmolden@> wrote:I am having North Sails do a “Quick Cover” for my F35,
http://www.northsails.com/north_america/Cruising_Sails/QuickCover.htm.
Rob Pennington is my point of contact out of Annapolis. The Quick
Cover has integral Lazy Jacks. A friend with a Bristol 41.1
has had
this cover for the past year and is very pleased by it. He is also
having a glass of wine while I am still putting covers on. I will
post as the project progresses.----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Kusinitz
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:53 PM
Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] “stackpack”On my F-33 I have mack packs on my main and mizzen. It’s a huge
improvement saving a lot of time and hassle with sailcovers.
Lazyjacks are part of it. With the full battened roach and no
topping
lift the lazy jack portion is still required. There are many
similar
concepts but anything that gets rid of the separate sail covers is
the key.Alan
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Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:40 AM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] “stackpack”I have been talking to Haarstick re a new mainsail and jib. I
asked
him for a price on a “stackpack” but he suggested lazy jacks
that
I
pull forward behind the mast when raising the sail and for
installing
the sail cover. With my present system of lazy jacks the sail
tends
to fall of of the boom. Can anybody help with their
experience of
stackpaack versus the Haarstick method?Dave Corcoran
36 freedomha
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Posted by Fred Molden (fredmolden@…>)
That’s correct. The clew is held in place by a slug in the bolt rope slide
of the boom and backed up with a Velcro strap as well as the usual outhaul.
A well designed sail would have a “shelf” if a bolt rope were used. This
shelf allows the sail to take the correct aerodynamic shape along the foot
and has very little loading vertically. It would be similar to a reefed
sail which is held at the tack and clew and the ties at mid sail only serve
to keep the sail bunched up on the boom and not spilling over onto the deck.
I will have a small slot cut into the boom to allow the slug to be put in.
This will make taking the main off and putting it on very simple, drop the
slug in, attach the clew and hoist. No sliding the foot bolt rope down the
boom requiring two people to feed and pull.
----- Original Message -----
From: “sitchmo” <sylvanm@…>
To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 12:28 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: “stackpack”
\
Fred - Thanks for the speedy resonse. Pardon my ignorance on this
subject, but if the foot is cut completely loose, then is it secure
only at the tack and the clew?Thanks - Mac
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Fred Molden”
<fredmolden@…> wrote:The entire length of clew and sail cover is suspended between the
bolt rope
on the bottom and lazy jacks on top and the cover remains in place
while
sailing. The lazy jacks are connected to the sail cover by battens
that
run the length of the sail cover on either side. Only the piece
that goes
around the front of the mast is removed.Total cost should be about $1400 for the cover and cutting the loose
foot in
the mainsail. North will also do the installation (add $400) or you
can do
it yourself. Installation includes changing the lazy jacks from the
standard two to four per side.----- Original Message -----
From: “sitchmo” <sylvanm@…>
To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 8:14 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: “stackpack”Fred - This looks very interesting. I have a Freedom 35 as well and
would be interested in adding this to my boat.Do you know what the total cost will be?
While under sail what do you do with the clew of the sail cover? I am
assuming you do not have a topping lift.Thanks -
Mac
Apsara— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Fred Molden”
<fredmolden@> wrote:I also have a bolt rope in the foot and will have the main cut to a
loose
foot (~$200). That should also make it easier to put the main on
and off.
----- Original Message -----
From: “Dave_Benjamin” <dave_benjamin@>
To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 7:09 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: “stackpack”Looks like a pretty nice system but since it slides into the
track on
the boom our friends with boltrope on the foot of their main
might be
out of luck.— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Fred Molden”
<fredmolden@> wrote:I am having North Sails do a “Quick Cover” for my F35,
http://www.northsails.com/north_america/Cruising_Sails/QuickCover.htm.
Rob Pennington is my point of contact out of Annapolis. The Quick
Cover has integral Lazy Jacks. A friend with a Bristol 41.1
has had
this cover for the past year and is very pleased by it. He is also
having a glass of wine while I am still putting covers on. I will
post as the project progresses.----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Kusinitz
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:53 PM
Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] “stackpack”On my F-33 I have mack packs on my main and mizzen. It’s a huge
improvement saving a lot of time and hassle with sailcovers.
Lazyjacks are part of it. With the full battened roach and no
topping
lift the lazy jack portion is still required. There are many
similar
concepts but anything that gets rid of the separate sail covers is
the key.Alan
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[mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sew4you100
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:40 AM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] “stackpack”I have been talking to Haarstick re a new mainsail and jib. I
asked
him for a price on a “stackpack” but he suggested lazy jacks
that
I
pull forward behind the mast when raising the sail and for
installing
the sail cover. With my present system of lazy jacks the sail
tends
to fall of of the boom. Can anybody help with their
experience of
stackpaack versus the Haarstick method?Dave Corcoran
36 freedomha
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Posted by sitchmo (sylvanm@…>)
Thank you! Mac
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Fred Molden”
<fredmolden@…> wrote:
That’s correct. The clew is held in place by a slug in the bolt
rope slide
of the boom and backed up with a Velcro strap as well as the usual
outhaul.
A well designed sail would have a “shelf” if a bolt rope were used.
This
shelf allows the sail to take the correct aerodynamic shape along
the foot
and has very little loading vertically. It would be similar to a
reefed
sail which is held at the tack and clew and the ties at mid sail
only serve
to keep the sail bunched up on the boom and not spilling over onto
the deck.
I will have a small slot cut into the boom to allow the slug to be
put in.
This will make taking the main off and putting it on very simple,
drop the
slug in, attach the clew and hoist. No sliding the foot bolt rope
down the
boom requiring two people to feed and pull.
----- Original Message -----
From: “sitchmo” <sylvanm@…>
To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 12:28 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: “stackpack”Fred - Thanks for the speedy resonse. Pardon my ignorance on this
subject, but if the foot is cut completely loose, then is it secure
only at the tack and the clew?Thanks - Mac
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Fred Molden”
<fredmolden@> wrote:The entire length of clew and sail cover is suspended between the
bolt rope
on the bottom and lazy jacks on top and the cover remains in place
while
sailing. The lazy jacks are connected to the sail cover by battens
that
run the length of the sail cover on either side. Only the piece
that goes
around the front of the mast is removed.Total cost should be about $1400 for the cover and cutting the loose
foot in
the mainsail. North will also do the installation (add $400) or you
can do
it yourself. Installation includes changing the lazy jacks from the
standard two to four per side.----- Original Message -----
From: “sitchmo” <sylvanm@>
To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 8:14 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: “stackpack”Fred - This looks very interesting. I have a Freedom 35 as well and
would be interested in adding this to my boat.Do you know what the total cost will be?
While under sail what do you do with the clew of the sail
cover? I am
assuming you do not have a topping lift.Thanks -
Mac
Apsara— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Fred Molden”
<fredmolden@> wrote:I also have a bolt rope in the foot and will have the main cut
to a
loose
foot (~$200). That should also make it easier to put the main on
and off.
----- Original Message -----
From: “Dave_Benjamin” <dave_benjamin@>
To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 7:09 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: “stackpack”Looks like a pretty nice system but since it slides into the
track on
the boom our friends with boltrope on the foot of their main
might be
out of luck.— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Fred Molden”
<fredmolden@> wrote:I am having North Sails do a “Quick Cover” for my F35,
http://www.northsails.com/north_america/Cruising_Sails/QuickCover.htm.
Rob Pennington is my point of contact out of Annapolis.
The Quick
Cover has integral Lazy Jacks. A friend with a Bristol 41.1
has had
this cover for the past year and is very pleased by it. He
is also
having a glass of wine while I am still putting covers on.
I will
post as the project progresses.----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Kusinitz
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:53 PM
Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] “stackpack”On my F-33 I have mack packs on my main and mizzen. It’s
a huge
improvement saving a lot of time and hassle with sailcovers.
Lazyjacks are part of it. With the full battened roach and no
topping
lift the lazy jack portion is still required. There are many
similar
concepts but anything that gets rid of the separate sail
covers is
the key.Alan
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sew4you100
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:40 AM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] “stackpack”I have been talking to Haarstick re a new mainsail and jib. I
asked
him for a price on a “stackpack” but he suggested lazy jacks
that
I
pull forward behind the mast when raising the sail and for
installing
the sail cover. With my present system of lazy jacks the sail
tends
to fall of of the boom. Can anybody help with their
experience of
stackpaack versus the Haarstick method?Dave Corcoran
36 freedomha
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Posted by andre laviolette (andrelaviolette@…>)
Scaramanga has a Doyle Stack Pack that works very well indeed. Protected sail very well in 5 years of Florida sun and rain including a Hurricane. Now the thead and sun exposed side of white canvass are rotten. I was quoted yesterday 1500 $ to redo it ! ! 14 foot boom. White Sunbrella is not as sun resistant as blue which is best of available colours. North on line says Quick Cover ( looks similar ) 950 $ hmm . Andre.jerry weinraub <zayde@…> wrote: DO THEY PROTECT THE SAIL FROM SUN AND RAIN? ----- Original Message ----- From: Fred Molden To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] “stackpack” I am having North Sails do a “Quick Cover” for my F35, http://www.northsails.com/north_america/Cruising_Sails/QuickCover.htm. Rob Pennington is my point of contact out of Annapolis. The Quick Cover has integral Lazy Jacks. A friend with a Bristol 41.1 has had this cover for the past year and is very pleased by it. He is also having a glass of wine while I am still putting covers on. I will post as the project progresses. ----- Original Message ----- From: Alan Kusinitz To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:53 PM Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] “stackpack” On my F-33 I have mack packs on my main and mizzen. It’s a huge improvement saving a lot of time and hassle with sailcovers. Lazyjacks are part of it. With the full battened roach and no topping lift the lazy jack portion is still required. There are many similar concepts but anything that gets rid of the separate sail covers is the key. Alan ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above and may be subject to attorney client privilege if so marked. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and
delete the original message. ********************************************************************** From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
sew4you100Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:40 AMTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: [freedomyachts2003] “stackpack” I have been talking to Haarstick re a new mainsail and jib. I asked him for a price on a “stackpack” but he suggested lazy jacks that I pull forward behind the mast when raising the sail and for installing the sail cover. With my present system of lazy jacks the sail tends to fall of of the boom. Can anybody help with their experience of stackpaack versus the Haarstick
method?Dave Corcoran 36 freedomha
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Posted by wilfred2736 (wilf.bishop@…>)
Hi Andre,
In a previous posting I recommended the UK supplier C&J Marine as a supplier of an excellent “stackpack” system - their product is called “Pack-A-Main” and I have had one fitted to my Freedom 21 for 2 seasons & I’m very happy with it. I checked prices for a 14ft boom (is 14ft right Andre since I took of dimensions from an old Freedom Yachts drawing and it cam out at around 12ft 6"?). Anyway for a 14ft boom I was quoted a ball park proce of £450 to £500 plus VAT at 17.5% - ouch! This makes an ex-works UK price of around £529 to £588 plus shipping to USA. Look up the details on the C&J Marine website at www.cjmarine.co.uk With full details of your rig they will quote a precise price. I can recommend this setup & the very good workmanship.
Best regards
Wilf
PS: Did you get a chance to check LOA for your F25 pls Andre?
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, andre laviolette <andrelaviolette@…> wrote:>> Scaramanga has a Doyle Stack Pack that works very well indeed. Protected sail very well in 5 years of Florida sun and rain including a Hurricane. Now the thead and sun exposed side of white canvass are rotten. I was quoted yesterday 1500 $ to redo it ! ! 14 foot boom. White Sunbrella is not as sun resistant as blue which is best of available colours. North on line says Quick Cover ( looks similar ) 950 $ hmm .> Andre.> > jerry weinraub zayde@… wrote:> DO THEY PROTECT THE SAIL FROM SUN AND RAIN?> ----- Original Message ----- > From: Fred Molden > To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 4:17 PM> Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] “stackpack”> > > I am having North Sails do a “Quick Cover” for my F35, http://www.northsails.com/north_america/Cruising_Sails/QuickCover.htm. Rob Pennington is my point of contact out of Annapolis. The Quick Cover has integral Lazy Jacks. A friend with a Bristol 41.1 has had this cover for the past year and is very pleased by it. He is also having a glass of wine while I am still putting covers on. I will post as the project progresses.> ----- Original Message ----- > From: Alan Kusinitz > To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:53 PM> Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] “stackpack”> > > On my F-33 I have mack packs on my main and mizzen. It’s a huge improvement saving a lot of time and hassle with sailcovers. Lazyjacks are part of it. With the full battened roach and no topping lift the lazy jack portion is still required. There are many similar concepts but anything that gets rid of the separate sail covers is the key.> Alan> > **********************************************************************> The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above and may be subject to attorney client privilege if so marked. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. > **********************************************************************> > > ---------------------------------> > From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sew4you100> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:40 AM> To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com> Subject: [freedomyachts2003] “stackpack”> > > I have been talking to Haarstick re a new mainsail and jib. I asked > him for a price on a “stackpack” but he suggested lazy jacks that I > pull forward behind the mast when raising the sail and for installing > the sail cover. With my present system of lazy jacks the sail tends > to fall of of the boom. Can anybody help with their experience of > stackpaack versus the Haarstick method?> > Dave Corcoran > 36 freedom> > ha> > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Make free worldwide PC-to-PC calls. Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger with Voice>