Strong Track - durability questions

Posted by JoanJohn@… (JoanJohn@…)


I am very interested in installing the Strong Track on my Freedom 45, but am concerned about it’s durability. I have read the emails going back and forth, but have not seen any assessment of the product other than it does its job.

Does anyone know the following about UHMW-PE:
What type of material is it?
How UV resistant is it?
How prone to breakage?
Is this off-shore capable stuff?

Also: I have only 6" clearance between the top of the goose-neck and the bottom of the track. Will there be a problem bending this for entry into track slot?

Thanks in advance.

John Ernst
Hertford, NC

Posted by Lorman, Alvin J. (ajlorman@…>)

John:

I suggest that you call Tides Marine and ask them the technical questions. Alternatively, ask sail lofts which have installed the product. The answer to your first question, though, is in the question itself: UHMW-PE is ultra high molecular weight polyethylene. That is, it is a polyethylene plastic made of large molecules. Another UHMW product is Starboard. As a group, this type of product is pretty sturdy and long-lasting.

6" between the top of the gooseneck and the bottom of the track is probably not enough. As I recall, the instructions say you need 8". The stuff is reasonably flexible, but it does have some stiffness. I removed the bottom 5 or 6 rivets on my mast track so that I could offset it from the boom when I installed mine. Then I pop-riveted the track back in. This was scarier to contemplate than to accomplish.

Al Lorman
F30 Ab Initio

Original Message-----From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of JoanJohn@…Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 7:58 AMTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: [freedomyachts2003] Strong Track - durability questions
I am very interested in installing the Strong Track on my Freedom 45, but am concerned about it’s durability. I have read the emails going back and forth, but have not seen any assessment of the product other than it does its job.

Does anyone know the following about UHMW-PE:
What type of material is it?
How UV resistant is it?
How prone to breakage?
Is this off-shore capable stuff?

Also: I have only 6" clearance between the top of the goose-neck and the bottom of the track. Will there be a problem bending this for entry into track slot?

Thanks in advance.

John Ernst
Hertford, NC
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Posted by JoanJohn@… (JoanJohn@…)


Thanks, Dave. i look forward to what you find out.

I am, however, looking for independent comments. I don’t know how long this material has been in use, but would love to get some kind of anecdotal info on longevity. I know the aluminum track will always be there if the polyethyene fails. But having to replace it, and wondering when, is not something I want to put up with. And of course failures always occur at just the wrong moment.

John

Posted by Dave_Benjamin (dave_benjamin@…>)

I’m at the Miami Boat Show so I’ll see if the Tides Marine guys want
to chime in.


— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, JoanJohn@… wrote:

I am very interested in installing the Strong Track on my Freedom
45, but am
concerned about it’s durability. I have read the emails going
back and
forth, but have not seen any assessment of the product other than
it does its job.

Does anyone know the following about UHMW-PE:
What type of material is it?
How UV resistant is it?
How prone to breakage?
Is this off-shore capable stuff?

Also: I have only 6" clearance between the top of the goose-neck
and the
bottom of the track. Will there be a problem bending this for
entry into track
slot?

Thanks in advance.

John Ernst
Hertford, NC

Posted by Herman and Gail Schiller (schiller@…>)

This material has been in use for industrial conveyor belt sliders
for at least 15-20 years. It is both slippery and tough, and because
it’s “self-lubricating” it is the material of choice for conveyor
belts in the food and pharmaceutical industries. I recently observed
that it’s also used for the slider on an expensive device to be added
to pilings in a marina which permits the dock lines to be tight, and
the slider’s up and down movement handled by this UHMW polyethylene
slider block moving on a vertical stainless steel rod attached to the
piling. This application is analogous to using the material for
sail-track (i.e. it’s outdoors).
Herm (Mull 28 - hull #29)

At 11:07 PM 2/16/2006, you wrote:

Thanks, Dave. i look forward to what you find out.

I am, however, looking for independent comments. I don’t know how
long this material has been in use, but would love to get some kind
of anecdotal info on longevity. I know the aluminum track will
always be there if the polyethyene fails. But having to replace it,
and wondering when, is not something I want to put up with. And of
course failures always occur at just the wrong moment.

John

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