Syntron Seal disassembly

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Posted by fargo_r (fargo_r@…>)

I have read all of the posts on the Syntron shaft seal…with
curiosity…and dismay. I think it was a good technical choice in the
beginning…but may have been too different from normal to get
appropriate care. The frequent addition of a zerk fitting, sitting
there begging for grease, sent many users off in the wrong direction
(although I can see that this sometime worked out). The seal was
clearly never meant to be greased…but does need cooling.

Now I have to deal with a 19 year old greased Syntron seal on our
“new” F30 in preparation for sailing and motoring south from New
England to Miami. The boat is dry right now…having been soda blasted
back to the beautiful blister free gelcoat…so I want to check the
seal this week. A 3 or 4 week wait for FMC to make a new one is not
possible for us.

Any suggestions on disassembly? Can it be safely inspected and
returned to service?

I found the post showing the FMC drawings…but no instructions for
taking it appart. One note on the web suggests that taking it appart
will ruin it.

Also, any final advise from the experienced on whether to epoxy seal
the bottom or not? We start expect to get back to the bottom on Monday.

Fargo Rousseau
F30 #12, NARISA

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Posted by svbagatelle (svbagatelle@…>)

FMC told me not remove the seal from the prop shaft, or even move
it. Once it’s installed it grips the shaft, and removing it and
reinstalling it will not set it right again so that it is drip
free. Besides, there is nothing much to inspect. The fitting
should be perpendicular to the shift, and it shouldn’t leak–that’s
it.
Paul
F-30 “Bagatelle”

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “fargo_r” <fargo_r@y…>
wrote:

I have read all of the posts on the Syntron shaft seal…with
curiosity…and dismay. I think it was a good technical choice in
the
beginning…but may have been too different from normal to get
appropriate care. The frequent addition of a zerk fitting, sitting
there begging for grease, sent many users off in the wrong
direction
(although I can see that this sometime worked out). The seal was
clearly never meant to be greased…but does need cooling.

Now I have to deal with a 19 year old greased Syntron seal on our
“new” F30 in preparation for sailing and motoring south from New
England to Miami. The boat is dry right now…having been soda
blasted
back to the beautiful blister free gelcoat…so I want to check
the
seal this week. A 3 or 4 week wait for FMC to make a new one is not
possible for us.

Any suggestions on disassembly? Can it be safely inspected and
returned to service?

I found the post showing the FMC drawings…but no instructions for
taking it appart. One note on the web suggests that taking it
appart
will ruin it.

Also, any final advise from the experienced on whether to epoxy
seal
the bottom or not? We start expect to get back to the bottom on
Monday.

Fargo Rousseau
F30 #12, NARISA

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Posted by Fargo Rousseau (fargo_r@…>)

Paul:

Sounds like I cannot touch the seal unless I plan to
replace it. Was planning to inspect and clean it and
change the cutless bearing. Sounds like the best thing
to do is leave if all alone for now. Thank you.

Fargo
F30 #12

— svbagatelle <svbagatelle@…> wrote:

FMC told me not remove the seal from the prop shaft,
or even move
it. Once it’s installed it grips the shaft, and
removing it and
reinstalling it will not set it right again so that
it is drip
free. Besides, there is nothing much to inspect.
The fitting
should be perpendicular to the shift, and it
shouldn’t leak–that’s
it.
Paul
F-30 “Bagatelle”

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “fargo_r”
<fargo_r@y…>
wrote:

I have read all of the posts on the Syntron shaft
seal…with
curiosity…and dismay. I think it was a good
technical choice in
the
beginning…but may have been too different from
normal to get
appropriate care. The frequent addition of a zerk
fitting, sitting
there begging for grease, sent many users off in
the wrong
direction
(although I can see that this sometime worked
out). The seal was
clearly never meant to be greased…but does need
cooling.

Now I have to deal with a 19 year old greased
Syntron seal on our
“new” F30 in preparation for sailing and motoring
south from New
England to Miami. The boat is dry right
now…having been soda
blasted
back to the beautiful blister free gelcoat…so I
want to check
the
seal this week. A 3 or 4 week wait for FMC to make
a new one is not
possible for us.

Any suggestions on disassembly? Can it be safely
inspected and
returned to service?

I found the post showing the FMC drawings…but no
instructions for
taking it appart. One note on the web suggests
that taking it
appart
will ruin it.

Also, any final advise from the experienced on
whether to epoxy
seal
the bottom or not? We start expect to get back to
the bottom on
Monday.

Fargo Rousseau
F30 #12, NARISA

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Posted by Lorman, Alvin J. (ajlorman@…>)

Fargo:

Have you looked at the file called Syntron Shaft Seal Info in the Files section of this site?

Al Lorman
F30 Ab Initio

-----Original Message-----From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fargo_rSent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 11:17 AMTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: [freedomyachts2003] Syntron Seal disassemblyI have read all of the posts on the Syntron shaft seal…withcuriosity…and dismay. I think it was a good technical choice in thebeginning…but may have been too different from normal to getappropriate care. The frequent addition of a zerk fitting, sittingthere begging for grease, sent many users off in the wrong direction(although I can see that this sometime worked out). The seal wasclearly never meant to be greased…but does need cooling. Now I have to deal with a 19 year old greased Syntron seal on our"new" F30 in preparation for sailing and motoring south from NewEngland to Miami. The boat is dry right now…having been soda blastedback to the beautiful blister free gelcoat…so I want to check theseal this week. A 3 or 4 week wait for FMC to make a new one is notpossible for us. Any suggestions on disassembly? Can it be safely inspected andreturned to service? I found the post showing the FMC drawings…but no instructions fortaking it appart. One note on the web suggests that taking it appartwill ruin it. Also, any final advise from the experienced on whether to epoxy sealthe bottom or not? We start expect to get back to the bottom on Monday.Fargo RousseauF30 #12, NARISA
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Posted by Fargo Rousseau (fargo_r@…>)

Al:

I downloaded the only Syntron file I have found which
was posted on the 15 of Sept. It shows drawings but
no instructions regarding disassembly. Is there
another one?

Fargo

— “Lorman, Alvin J.” <ajlorman@…> wrote:

Fargo:

Have you looked at the file called Syntron Shaft
Seal Info in the Files
section of this site?

Al Lorman
F30 Ab Initio

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Of fargo_r
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 11:17 AM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Syntron Seal
disassembly

I have read all of the posts on the Syntron shaft
seal…with
curiosity…and dismay. I think it was a good
technical choice in the
beginning…but may have been too different from
normal to get
appropriate care. The frequent addition of a zerk
fitting, sitting
there begging for grease, sent many users off in the
wrong direction
(although I can see that this sometime worked out).
The seal was
clearly never meant to be greased…but does need
cooling.

Now I have to deal with a 19 year old greased
Syntron seal on our
“new” F30 in preparation for sailing and motoring
south from New
England to Miami. The boat is dry right now…having
been soda blasted
back to the beautiful blister free gelcoat…so I
want to check the
seal this week. A 3 or 4 week wait for FMC to make a
new one is not
possible for us.

Any suggestions on disassembly? Can it be safely
inspected and
returned to service?

I found the post showing the FMC drawings…but no
instructions for
taking it appart. One note on the web suggests that
taking it appart
will ruin it.

Also, any final advise from the experienced on
whether to epoxy seal
the bottom or not? We start expect to get back to
the bottom on Monday.

Fargo Rousseau
F30 #12, NARISA

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Posted by Lorman, Alvin J. (ajlorman@…>)

Fargo:

The file I’m referring to was uploaded on October 16, 2003.

Al

-----Original Message-----From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Fargo RousseauSent: Monday, October 17, 2005 11:52 AMTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] Syntron Seal disassemblyAl:I downloaded the only Syntron file I have found whichwas posted on the 15 of Sept. It shows drawings butno instructions regarding disassembly. Is thereanother one?Fargo— “Lorman, Alvin J.” <ajlorman@…> wrote:> Fargo:> > Have you looked at the file called Syntron Shaft> Seal Info in the Files> section of this site?> > Al Lorman> F30 Ab Initio> > -----Original Message-----> From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf> Of fargo_r> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 11:17 AM> To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com> Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Syntron Seal> disassembly> > > I have read all of the posts on the Syntron shaft> seal…with> curiosity…and dismay. I think it was a good> technical choice in the> beginning…but may have been too different from> normal to get> appropriate care. The frequent addition of a zerk> fitting, sitting> there begging for grease, sent many users off in the> wrong direction> (although I can see that this sometime worked out).> The seal was> clearly never meant to be greased…but does need> cooling. > > Now I have to deal with a 19 year old greased> Syntron seal on our> “new” F30 in preparation for sailing and motoring> south from New> England to Miami. The boat is dry right now…having> been soda blasted> back to the beautiful blister free gelcoat…so I> want to check the> seal this week. A 3 or 4 week wait for FMC to make a> new one is not> possible for us. > > Any suggestions on disassembly? Can it be safely> inspected and> returned to service? > > I found the post showing the FMC drawings…but no> instructions for> taking it appart. One note on the web suggests that> taking it appart> will ruin it. > > Also, any final advise from the experienced on> whether to epoxy seal> the bottom or not? We start expect to get back to> the bottom on Monday.> > Fargo Rousseau> F30 #12, NARISA> > > > > > _____ > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > * Visit your group "freedomyachts2003> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/freedomyachts2003 "> on the web.> > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:> freedomyachts2003-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com><mailto:freedomyachts2003-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscrib> e> > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the> Yahoo! Terms of> Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ . > > > _____ > > > >

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