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Posted by bespokebermuda (bespokebermuda@…>)

I have a F30 (Stella Novea) that I bought 1.5 years ago. I am
currently having the engine rebuilt and during this process I have
been refurbishing the entire engine compartment fuel, coolant and
drive systems.

We are almost done and I have been addressing my stuffing box. The
one I have is a standard brass 1" stuffing box that has been badly
damaged due to a misalignment problem with the engine (failure of an
engine mount!). In trying to replace it I realised that it has been
cut down to fit into the very small space available.

As I am having to replace the stuffing box anyway, I wanted to
investigate the feasibility of using a Syntron Shaft seal as per the
original F30 specs.

2 Questions:

  1. What is the general feeling about these shaft seals. I have never
    had a boat with one and do not know what to expect or how good they
    perform.

  2. Does anyone have the specs and/or source details for a Sytron
    Shaft seal to fit in a F30 (1985, orgininal Yanmar engine).

Any help would be appreciated.

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Posted by Lorman, Alvin J. (ajlorman@…>)

There’s information about the Syntron Shaft Seal posted at the Files section of this group’s Yahoo site.

Mt F30 appears to have the original Syntron and it has not given me problems that I’m aware of. Of course, I’ve only owned the boat for a bit over a year.

Al Lorman
F30 Ab Initio

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Posted by Doug Payne (doug.payne@…>)


I have a Mull 28 and the original seal
lasted 15 years. When I bought the boat it was recommended by the yard that I
replace the seal. The space is tight, and the original seal is all that would
fit. I believe it was syntron. The yard got a hold of the mfg, they had the
tooling and even though that model was out of production, they built one for
me. Bad news was that it was $500, but problem is solved for another 15 years. In
looking at this forum every day for two years, don’t recall too many
problems with these seals. Therefore you might be well served to go this route.

Douglas M. Payne
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Tatum Partners
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480-236-4561 Mobile
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Subject: [freedomyachts2003]
Syntron Shaft Seal

I have a F30 (Stella Novea) that I bought 1.5 years
ago. I am
currently having the engine rebuilt and during
this process I have
been refurbishing the entire engine compartment
fuel, coolant and
drive systems.

We are almost done and I have been addressing my
stuffing box. The
one I have is a standard brass 1" stuffing box
that has been badly
damaged due to a misalignment problem with the
engine (failure of an
engine mount!). In trying to replace it I realised
that it has been
cut down to fit into the very small space
available.

As I am having to replace the stuffing box anyway,
I wanted to
investigate the feasibility of using a Syntron
Shaft seal as per the
original F30 specs.

2 Questions:

  1. What is the general feeling about these shaft
    seals. I have never
    had a boat with one and do not know what to expect
    or how good they
    perform.

  2. Does anyone have the specs and/or source
    details for a Sytron
    Shaft seal to fit in a F30 (1985, orgininal Yanmar
    engine).

Any help would be appreciated.



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Posted by bespokebermuda (bespokebermuda@…>)

Thanks Doug,

I think I will probably go with a Syntron replacement. The more I
look at how dificult it will be to repack the stuffing box the more
I want a longer lasting solulion.

However I am finding it extremely difficult to locate a source for
the Syntron Shaft seals. Do you have any information regarding where
I could get a new shaft seal?

Regards,
Paul.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Doug Payne”
<doug.payne@t…> wrote:

I have a Mull 28 and the original seal lasted 15 years. When I
bought the
boat it was recommended by the yard that I replace the seal. The
space is
tight, and the original seal is all that would fit. I believe it
was
syntron. The yard got a hold of the mfg, they had the tooling and
even
though that model was out of production, they built one for me.
Bad news was
that it was $500, but problem is solved for another 15 years. In
looking at
this forum every day for two years, don’t recall too many problems
with
these seals. Therefore you might be well served to go this route.

Douglas M. Payne

Managing Partner Arizona Colorado

Tatum Partners

480-614-4915 Office

480-236-4561 Mobile

480-614-4916 Fax

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Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Syntron Shaft Seal

I have a F30 (Stella Novea) that I bought 1.5 years ago. I am
currently having the engine rebuilt and during this process I have
been refurbishing the entire engine compartment fuel, coolant and
drive systems.

We are almost done and I have been addressing my stuffing box. The
one I have is a standard brass 1" stuffing box that has been badly
damaged due to a misalignment problem with the engine (failure of
an
engine mount!). In trying to replace it I realised that it has
been
cut down to fit into the very small space available.

As I am having to replace the stuffing box anyway, I wanted to
investigate the feasibility of using a Syntron Shaft seal as per
the
original F30 specs.

2 Questions:

  1. What is the general feeling about these shaft seals. I have
    never
    had a boat with one and do not know what to expect or how good
    they
    perform.

  2. Does anyone have the specs and/or source details for a Sytron
    Shaft seal to fit in a F30 (1985, orgininal Yanmar engine).

Any help would be appreciated.

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Posted by Doug Payne (doug.payne@…>)


The yard that did the work on my F28
Syntron dripless seal replacement was The Boat Yard in Marina Del Ray Ca,
310-823-8964, Victor is the manager I talked to . As I recall they got to
Syntron and they agreed to build a new seal to the original freedom spec. That
model had been discontinued. They charged $585 for the seal and $175 labor to
put it in. Expensive, but a long lasting solution. They said due to the small space,
that was the only dripless option I had. The other seal mfg’s units were
just too big for the tight space.

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Tatum Partners
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480-236-4561 Mobile
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To:
freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re:
Syntron Shaft Seal

Thanks Doug,

I think I will probably go with a Syntron
replacement. The more I
look at how dificult it will be to repack the
stuffing box the more
I want a longer lasting solulion.

However I am finding it extremely difficult to
locate a source for
the Syntron Shaft seals. Do you have any
information regarding where
I could get a new shaft seal?

Regards,
Paul.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com,
“Doug Payne”
<doug.payne@t…> wrote:

I have a Mull 28 and the original seal lasted
15 years. When I
bought the
boat it was recommended by the yard that I
replace the seal. The
space is
tight, and the original seal is all that
would fit. I believe it
was
syntron. The yard got a hold of the mfg, they
had the tooling and
even
though that model was out of production, they
built one for me.
Bad news was
that it was $500, but problem is solved for
another 15 years. In
looking at
this forum every day for two years, don’t
recall too many problems
with
these seals. Therefore you might be well
served to go this route.

Douglas M. Payne

Managing Partner Arizona Colorado

Tatum Partners

480-614-4915 Office

480-236-4561 Mobile

480-614-4916 Fax

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To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Syntron Shaft
Seal

I have a F30 (Stella Novea) that I bought 1.5
years ago. I am
currently having the engine rebuilt and
during this process I have
been refurbishing the entire engine
compartment fuel, coolant and
drive systems.

We are almost done and I have been addressing
my stuffing box. The
one I have is a standard brass 1"
stuffing box that has been badly
damaged due to a misalignment problem with
the engine (failure of
an
engine mount!). In trying to replace it I
realised that it has
been
cut down to fit into the very small space
available.

As I am having to replace the stuffing box
anyway, I wanted to
investigate the feasibility of using a
Syntron Shaft seal as per
the
original F30 specs.

2 Questions:

  1. What is the general feeling about these
    shaft seals. I have
    never
    had a boat with one and do not know what to
    expect or how good
    they
    perform.

  2. Does anyone have the specs and/or source
    details for a Sytron
    Shaft seal to fit in a F30 (1985, orgininal
    Yanmar engine).

Any help would be appreciated.

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Posted by lance_ryley (lance_ryley@…>)

Doug,
I’m curious what caused your syntron to need to be replaced.

Lance


— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Doug Payne”
<doug.payne@t…> wrote:

The yard that did the work on my F28 Syntron dripless seal
replacement was
The Boat Yard in Marina Del Ray Ca, 310-823-8964, Victor is the
manager I
talked to . As I recall they got to Syntron and they agreed to
build a new
seal to the original freedom spec. That model had been
discontinued. They
charged $585 for the seal and $175 labor to put it in. Expensive,
but a long
lasting solution. They said due to the small space, that was the
only
dripless option I had. The other seal mfg’s units were just too
big for the
tight space.

Douglas M. Payne

Managing Partner Arizona Colorado

Tatum Partners

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480-236-4561 Mobile

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To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Syntron Shaft Seal

Thanks Doug,

I think I will probably go with a Syntron replacement. The more I
look at how dificult it will be to repack the stuffing box the
more
I want a longer lasting solulion.

However I am finding it extremely difficult to locate a source for
the Syntron Shaft seals. Do you have any information regarding
where
I could get a new shaft seal?

Regards,
Paul.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Doug Payne”
<doug.payne@t…> wrote:

I have a Mull 28 and the original seal lasted 15 years. When I
bought the
boat it was recommended by the yard that I replace the seal. The
space is
tight, and the original seal is all that would fit. I believe it
was
syntron. The yard got a hold of the mfg, they had the tooling
and
even
though that model was out of production, they built one for me.
Bad news was
that it was $500, but problem is solved for another 15 years. In
looking at
this forum every day for two years, don’t recall too many
problems
with
these seals. Therefore you might be well served to go this
route.

Douglas M. Payne

Managing Partner Arizona Colorado

Tatum Partners

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480-236-4561 Mobile

480-614-4916 Fax

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To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Syntron Shaft Seal

I have a F30 (Stella Novea) that I bought 1.5 years ago. I am
currently having the engine rebuilt and during this process I
have
been refurbishing the entire engine compartment fuel, coolant
and
drive systems.

We are almost done and I have been addressing my stuffing box.
The
one I have is a standard brass 1" stuffing box that has been
badly
damaged due to a misalignment problem with the engine (failure
of
an
engine mount!). In trying to replace it I realised that it has
been
cut down to fit into the very small space available.

As I am having to replace the stuffing box anyway, I wanted to
investigate the feasibility of using a Syntron Shaft seal as per
the
original F30 specs.

2 Questions:

  1. What is the general feeling about these shaft seals. I have
    never
    had a boat with one and do not know what to expect or how good
    they
    perform.

  2. Does anyone have the specs and/or source details for a Sytron
    Shaft seal to fit in a F30 (1985, orgininal Yanmar engine).

Any help would be appreciated.

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Posted by mike cunningham (seychellois_lib@…>)

the seals you are interested in are located at:

http://www.levyindustrial.com/fmc/products/prodHrollneck/prodH1-b.htm

last time I checked with an FMC engineer the seal used
in the F30 was still in manufacture. Its nothing
special, just a standard industrial roll neck shaft
seal that happened to be used on a sailboat. I always
thought it was a pretty good choice, check out the
specs, these things are tough as nails. If you click
on the “next” button you’ll see that they offer a
variety of diameters, one of em fits the f30 shaft.

I’m pretty sure Freedom just used a stock seal, I
don’t theink there was a “Freedom spec.” I’m willing
to be proven wrong, anyone got data on a unique seal
specification for Freedom Yachts?



— Doug Payne <doug.payne@…> wrote:

The yard that did the work on my F28 Syntron
dripless seal replacement was
The Boat Yard in Marina Del Ray Ca, 310-823-8964,
Victor is the manager I
talked to . As I recall they got to Syntron and they
agreed to build a new
seal to the original freedom spec. That model had
been discontinued. They
charged $585 for the seal and $175 labor to put it
in. Expensive, but a long
lasting solution. They said due to the small space,
that was the only
dripless option I had. The other seal mfg’s units
were just too big for the
tight space.

Douglas M. Payne

Managing Partner Arizona Colorado

Tatum Partners

480-614-4915 Office

480-236-4561 Mobile

480-614-4916 Fax

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Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Syntron Shaft Seal

Thanks Doug,

I think I will probably go with a Syntron
replacement. The more I
look at how dificult it will be to repack the
stuffing box the more
I want a longer lasting solulion.

However I am finding it extremely difficult to
locate a source for
the Syntron Shaft seals. Do you have any information
regarding where
I could get a new shaft seal?

Regards,
Paul.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Doug
Payne”
<doug.payne@t…> wrote:

I have a Mull 28 and the original seal lasted 15
years. When I
bought the
boat it was recommended by the yard that I replace
the seal. The
space is
tight, and the original seal is all that would
fit. I believe it
was
syntron. The yard got a hold of the mfg, they had
the tooling and
even
though that model was out of production, they
built one for me.
Bad news was
that it was $500, but problem is solved for
another 15 years. In
looking at
this forum every day for two years, don’t recall
too many problems
with
these seals. Therefore you might be well served to
go this route.

Douglas M. Payne

Managing Partner Arizona Colorado

Tatum Partners

480-614-4915 Office

480-236-4561 Mobile

480-614-4916 Fax

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To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Syntron Shaft Seal

I have a F30 (Stella Novea) that I bought 1.5
years ago. I am
currently having the engine rebuilt and during
this process I have
been refurbishing the entire engine compartment
fuel, coolant and
drive systems.

We are almost done and I have been addressing my
stuffing box. The
one I have is a standard brass 1" stuffing box
that has been badly
damaged due to a misalignment problem with the
engine (failure of
an
engine mount!). In trying to replace it I realised
that it has
been
cut down to fit into the very small space
available.

As I am having to replace the stuffing box anyway,
I wanted to
investigate the feasibility of using a Syntron
Shaft seal as per
the
original F30 specs.

2 Questions:

  1. What is the general feeling about these shaft
    seals. I have

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Posted by mike cunningham (seychellois_lib@…>)

sorry, the seal is an RP Mechanical seal not the roll
neck

— mike cunningham <seychellois_lib@…> wrote:

the seals you are interested in are located at:

http://www.levyindustrial.com/fmc/products/prodHrollneck/prodH1-b.htm

last time I checked with an FMC engineer the seal
used
in the F30 was still in manufacture. Its nothing
special, just a standard industrial roll neck shaft
seal that happened to be used on a sailboat. I
always
thought it was a pretty good choice, check out the
specs, these things are tough as nails. If you click
on the “next” button you’ll see that they offer a
variety of diameters, one of em fits the f30 shaft.

I’m pretty sure Freedom just used a stock seal, I
don’t theink there was a “Freedom spec.” I’m willing
to be proven wrong, anyone got data on a unique seal
specification for Freedom Yachts?

— Doug Payne <doug.payne@…> wrote:

The yard that did the work on my F28 Syntron
dripless seal replacement was
The Boat Yard in Marina Del Ray Ca, 310-823-8964,
Victor is the manager I
talked to . As I recall they got to Syntron and
they
agreed to build a new
seal to the original freedom spec. That model had
been discontinued. They
charged $585 for the seal and $175 labor to put it
in. Expensive, but a long
lasting solution. They said due to the small
space,
that was the only
dripless option I had. The other seal mfg’s units
were just too big for the
tight space.

Douglas M. Payne

Managing Partner Arizona Colorado

Tatum Partners

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Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Syntron Shaft
Seal

Thanks Doug,

I think I will probably go with a Syntron
replacement. The more I
look at how dificult it will be to repack the
stuffing box the more
I want a longer lasting solulion.

However I am finding it extremely difficult to
locate a source for
the Syntron Shaft seals. Do you have any
information
regarding where
I could get a new shaft seal?

Regards,
Paul.

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Payne”
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I have a Mull 28 and the original seal lasted 15
years. When I
bought the
boat it was recommended by the yard that I
replace
the seal. The
space is
tight, and the original seal is all that would
fit. I believe it
was
syntron. The yard got a hold of the mfg, they
had
the tooling and
even
though that model was out of production, they
built one for me.
Bad news was
that it was $500, but problem is solved for
another 15 years. In
looking at
this forum every day for two years, don’t recall
too many problems
with
these seals. Therefore you might be well served
to
go this route.

Douglas M. Payne

Managing Partner Arizona Colorado

Tatum Partners

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480-236-4561 Mobile

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Posted by Doug Payne (doug.payne@…>)


Don’t know, 15 yrs of wear I
presume. Don’t recall what the yard said.

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Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re:
Syntron Shaft Seal

Doug,
I’m curious what caused your syntron to need to be
replaced.

Lance


— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com,
“Doug Payne”
<doug.payne@t…> wrote:

The yard that did the work on my F28 Syntron
dripless seal
replacement was
The Boat Yard in Marina Del Ray Ca,
310-823-8964, Victor is the
manager I
talked to . As I recall they got to Syntron
and they agreed to
build a new
seal to the original freedom spec. That model
had been
discontinued. They
charged $585 for the seal and $175 labor to
put it in. Expensive,
but a long
lasting solution. They said due to the small
space, that was the
only
dripless option I had. The other seal mfg’s
units were just too
big for the
tight space.

Douglas M. Payne

Managing Partner Arizona Colorado

Tatum Partners

480-614-4915 Office

480-236-4561 Mobile

480-614-4916 Fax

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Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 12:15 PM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Syntron
Shaft Seal

Thanks Doug,

I think I will probably go with a Syntron
replacement. The more I
look at how dificult it will be to repack the
stuffing box the
more
I want a longer lasting solulion.

However I am finding it extremely difficult
to locate a source for
the Syntron Shaft seals. Do you have any
information regarding
where
I could get a new shaft seal?

Regards,
Paul.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com,
“Doug Payne”
<doug.payne@t…> wrote:

I have a Mull 28 and the original seal
lasted 15 years. When I
bought the
boat it was recommended by the yard that
I replace the seal. The
space is
tight, and the original seal is all that
would fit. I believe it
was
syntron. The yard got a hold of the mfg,
they had the tooling
and
even
though that model was out of production,
they built one for me.
Bad news was
that it was $500, but problem is solved
for another 15 years. In
looking at
this forum every day for two years,
don’t recall too many
problems
with
these seals. Therefore you might be well
served to go this
route.

Douglas M. Payne

Managing Partner Arizona Colorado

Tatum Partners

480-614-4915 Office

480-236-4561 Mobile

480-614-4916 Fax

mailto:doug.payne@t...
doug.payne@t…

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bespokebermuda

Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:49 AM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Syntron
Shaft Seal

I have a F30 (Stella Novea) that I
bought 1.5 years ago. I am
currently having the engine rebuilt and
during this process I
have
been refurbishing the entire engine
compartment fuel, coolant
and
drive systems.

We are almost done and I have been
addressing my stuffing box.
The
one I have is a standard brass 1"
stuffing box that has been
badly
damaged due to a misalignment problem
with the engine (failure
of
an
engine mount!). In trying to replace it
I realised that it has
been
cut down to fit into the very small
space available.

As I am having to replace the stuffing
box anyway, I wanted to
investigate the feasibility of using a
Syntron Shaft seal as per
the
original F30 specs.

2 Questions:

  1. What is the general feeling about
    these shaft seals. I have
    never
    had a boat with one and do not know what
    to expect or how good
    they
    perform.

  2. Does anyone have the specs and/or
    source details for a Sytron
    Shaft seal to fit in a F30 (1985,
    orgininal Yanmar engine).

Any help would be appreciated.

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Posted by dsilvadcs (dsilvadcs@…>)

This seal only lasted 3 years on my 89’ Freedom 38. Maybe it was
installed wrong by TP because it also scoured the SS shaft which also
had to be replaced. I went with a standard stuffing box which I have
re-packed every 5 years. You do have to pull the shaft but at least
I
get my engine coupling bolts loosened up before they rust solid and
it’s a good opportunity to examine the condition of the shaft,
cutless
bearing and max-prop gears.

Dexte Silva