Posted by timothyslane (timothyslane@…>)
I am arranging road transport for my freedom 38 with 6’6" draft. Can
anyone tell me the height of the boat to the top of the pullpit. I’m
away from my boat at the moment so can’t measure it. the height from
the water to the pullpit will help as I can then add the draft.
Thank you
Tim
Posted by michel.capel (michel.capel@…>)
Tim,
for transport purposes, you have to take the average height of pullpit
and pushpit. The tilt the boat forward to level these two high points.
Be aware that sometimes you also pay for the height of the cradle or
truck. Some states have a height restriction and if you go above that,
you need a pole car at extra costs and a special permit.
regards,
Michel
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “timothyslane”
<timothyslane@…> wrote:
I am arranging road transport for my freedom 38 with 6’6" draft. Can
anyone tell me the height of the boat to the top of the pullpit. I’m
away from my boat at the moment so can’t measure it. the height from
the water to the pullpit will help as I can then add the draft.Thank you
Tim
Posted by Michael G Katz (mgkatz@…>)
Tim–
I had my Freedom 38 (with 4’ wing keel) transported last June by Deepwater Transport, Washington, N.C. All ended well, but not without some complications.
First, due to the 38’s beam, your boat may very will need an escort through some states. This is mainly a matter of cost and permits, and perhaps some routing.
Second, while my boat height was 5’ 6" from top of deck to bottom of hull, my actual highest point on deck was my pedestal which added another 2 feet. Add to that the 4 foot keel, and I came in at 11’ 6". Because the legal limit for height is 13’ 6", I thought I was home free. HOWEVER…
this did not take into account the height of trailer, which adds about another foot. Still okay, right? Well, at last minute (literally) the transport company tells me that because I have a wing keel, and it is wider than four feet (port to starboard), that my boat will not ride low enough on trailer to clear the legal height limit. So, in addition to needing one of their special trailiers, I also needed special routing and additional permits which added $500+ to the cost of transport. At this point I was just glad they could make this all work, so I paid it. Because you have a fin keel your boat would presumably sit lower on trailer than my boat, but you do have another 2 and 1/2 feet below you, so it seems to me this will be a close call.
Third, just an FYI…I told them in January I wanted my boat moved in June. I also gave them a big (two week) window to move my boat. They picked me up at my boatyard on the last day of the two week window; and then they took the boat to their yard, where it sat for another week while they tried to get a driver to take me. As a result, I didn’t have time to get much of my pre-launch work done at the new yard.
Bottom line is that the boat got there safely and without damage, but not without frustration and extra cost. Lack of advance planning on their part, and lack of communication with me–I literally had to constantly call them to find out what was going on–made this an unpleasant experience. I think you can expect your own version of these problems, so just anticipate as much as YOU can because they won’t; and don’t expect anything close to precision timing.
Michael Katz
Freedom 38
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----- Original Message -----
From: timothyslane
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 4:33 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Transport height of Freedom 38
I am arranging road transport for my freedom 38 with 6’6" draft. Can anyone tell me the height of the boat to the top of the pullpit. I’m away from my boat at the moment so can’t measure it. the height from the water to the pullpit will help as I can then add the draft.Thank youTim
Posted by Herman and Gail Schiller (hschiller2@…>)
Folks,
I’ve used Deepwater Transport twice. Once a Freedom 25 from
Chelsea, NY to New Bern, NC, and then (way later) a Freedom 28 from
Fort Lauderdale to New Bern. In each case they were very quick
deliveries. I worked with them to minimize my costs by synchronizing
my boat transportation with their needs to not have their truck
returning empty from their deliveries. If you have a smaller boat
(F-25) they can sometimes find another delivery to double-up the load
on their trailer, with substantial savings for you (and the other guy).
I recommend talking with the trucker of choice to see whether any of
the cost-cutting measures can be made to fit your transportation
needs. Sometimes it requires flexibility on your part, but generally
it’s worth the trouble.
Herm SV Impulse
At 11:31 AM 1/23/2007, Michael G Katz wrote:
Tim–
I had my Freedom 38 (with 4’ wing keel) transported last June by
Deepwater Transport, Washington, N.C. All ended well, but not
without some complications.First, due to the 38’s beam, your boat may very will need an escort
through some states. This is mainly a matter of cost and permits,
and perhaps some routing.Second, while my boat height was 5’ 6" from top of deck to bottom of
hull, my actual highest point on deck was my pedestal which added
another 2 feet. Add to that the 4 foot keel, and I came in at 11’
6". Because the legal limit for height is 13’ 6", I thought I was
home free. HOWEVER…
this did not take into account the height of trailer, which adds
about another foot. Still okay, right? Well, at last minute
(literally) the transport company tells me that because I have a
wing keel, and it is wider than four feet (port to starboard), that
my boat will not ride low enough on trailer to clear the legal
height limit. So, in addition to needing one of their special
trailiers, I also needed special routing and additional permits
which added $500+ to the cost of transport. At this point I was
just glad they could make this all work, so I paid it. Because you
have a fin keel your boat would presumably sit lower on trailer than
my boat, but you do have another 2 and 1/2 feet below you, so it
seems to me this will be a close call.Third, just an FYI…I told them in January I wanted my boat moved
in June. I also gave them a big (two week) window to move my
boat. They picked me up at my boatyard on the last day of the two
week window; and then they took the boat to their yard, where it sat
for another week while they tried to get a driver to take me. As a
result, I didn’t have time to get much of my pre-launch work done at
the new yard.Bottom line is that the boat got there safely and without damage,
but not without frustration and extra cost. Lack of advance
planning on their part, and lack of communication with me–I
literally had to constantly call them to find out what was going
on–made this an unpleasant experience. I think you can expect your
own version of these problems, so just anticipate as much as YOU can
because they won’t; and don’t expect anything close to precision timing.
Michael Katz
Freedom 38
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Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 4:33 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Transport height of Freedom 38I am arranging road transport for my freedom 38 with 6’6" draft. Can
anyone tell me the height of the boat to the top of the pullpit. I’m
away from my boat at the moment so can’t measure it. the height from
the water to the pullpit will help as I can then add the draft.Thank you
Tim
Posted by michel.capel (michel.capel@…>)
I had a similar experience when transporting my F44 from Mobile, AL
to Port Canaveral, FL. To sum it up:
They did it, but with a lot of frustration on my side.
I would advise you not to work with Loadaboat from TX (contact
person Scott Steinbaugh (I won’t forget his name soon).
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Michael G Katz”
<mgkatz@…> wrote:
Tim–
I had my Freedom 38 (with 4’ wing keel) transported last June by
Deepwater Transport, Washington, N.C. All ended well, but not
without some complications.First, due to the 38’s beam, your boat may very will need an
escort through some states. This is mainly a matter of cost and
permits, and perhaps some routing.Second, while my boat height was 5’ 6" from top of deck to bottom
of hull, my actual highest point on deck was my pedestal which added
another 2 feet. Add to that the 4 foot keel, and I came in at 11’
6". Because the legal limit for height is 13’ 6", I thought I was
home free. HOWEVER…
this did not take into account the height of trailer, which adds
about another foot. Still okay, right? Well, at last minute
(literally) the transport company tells me that because I have a
wing keel, and it is wider than four feet (port to starboard), that
my boat will not ride low enough on trailer to clear the legal
height limit. So, in addition to needing one of their special
trailiers, I also needed special routing and additional permits
which added $500+ to the cost of transport. At this point I was
just glad they could make this all work, so I paid it. Because you
have a fin keel your boat would presumably sit lower on trailer than
my boat, but you do have another 2 and 1/2 feet below you, so it
seems to me this will be a close call.Third, just an FYI…I told them in January I wanted my boat
moved in June. I also gave them a big (two week) window to move my
boat. They picked me up at my boatyard on the last day of the two
week window; and then they took the boat to their yard, where it sat
for another week while they tried to get a driver to take me. As a
result, I didn’t have time to get much of my pre-launch work done at
the new yard.Bottom line is that the boat got there safely and without damage,
but not without frustration and extra cost. Lack of advance
planning on their part, and lack of communication with me–I
literally had to constantly call them to find out what was going on–
made this an unpleasant experience. I think you can expect your own
version of these problems, so just anticipate as much as YOU can
because they won’t; and don’t expect anything close to precision
timing.
Michael Katz
Freedom 38
“Acquittal”----- Original Message -----
From: timothyslane
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 4:33 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Transport height of Freedom 38I am arranging road transport for my freedom 38 with 6’6" draft.
Can
anyone tell me the height of the boat to the top of the pullpit.
I’m
away from my boat at the moment so can’t measure it. the height
from
the water to the pullpit will help as I can then add the draft.Thank you
Tim
Posted by Rees Midgley (rmidgley@…>)
While not land-based, we have nothing but praise to say for Dockwise
Transport. They took our 36/38 foot Freedom from Newport, RI to St.
Thomas, USVI in five days without a single problem. We floated her
on, they pulled her to chocks previously arranged for her, divers
went down to set the chocks, the transport rose, water drained out,
and our Freedom was sitting there pretty, high and dry on chocks.
They then sailed down. In St. Thomas, we climbed a gangplank, got
into our boat, they re-sunk the transport, our boat started to float,
divers went below to release our boat, the huge transom was lowered,
and we motored out with nary a scratch. Wonderful. You can even
stay on your boat for the trip if you wish.
On Jan 24, 2007, at 5:01 AM, michel.capel wrote:
I had a similar experience when transporting my F44 from Mobile, AL
to Port Canaveral, FL. To sum it up:
They did it, but with a lot of frustration on my side.
I would advise you not to work with Loadaboat from TX (contact
person Scott Steinbaugh (I won’t forget his name soon).
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Michael G Katz”
<mgkatz@…> wrote:
Tim–
I had my Freedom 38 (with 4’ wing keel) transported last June by
Deepwater Transport, Washington, N.C. All ended well, but not
without some complications.First, due to the 38’s beam, your boat may very will need an
escort through some states. This is mainly a matter of cost and
permits, and perhaps some routing.Second, while my boat height was 5’ 6" from top of deck to bottom
of hull, my actual highest point on deck was my pedestal which added
another 2 feet. Add to that the 4 foot keel, and I came in at 11’
6". Because the legal limit for height is 13’ 6", I thought I was
home free. HOWEVER…
this did not take into account the height of trailer, which adds
about another foot. Still okay, right? Well, at last minute
(literally) the transport company tells me that because I have a
wing keel, and it is wider than four feet (port to starboard), that
my boat will not ride low enough on trailer to clear the legal
height limit. So, in addition to needing one of their special
trailiers, I also needed special routing and additional permits
which added $500+ to the cost of transport. At this point I was
just glad they could make this all work, so I paid it. Because you
have a fin keel your boat would presumably sit lower on trailer than
my boat, but you do have another 2 and 1/2 feet below you, so it
seems to me this will be a close call.Third, just an FYI…I told them in January I wanted my boat
moved in June. I also gave them a big (two week) window to move my
boat. They picked me up at my boatyard on the last day of the two
week window; and then they took the boat to their yard, where it sat
for another week while they tried to get a driver to take me. As a
result, I didn’t have time to get much of my pre-launch work done at
the new yard.Bottom line is that the boat got there safely and without damage,
but not without frustration and extra cost. Lack of advance
planning on their part, and lack of communication with me–I
literally had to constantly call them to find out what was going on–
made this an unpleasant experience. I think you can expect your own
version of these problems, so just anticipate as much as YOU can
because they won’t; and don’t expect anything close to precision
timing.
Michael Katz
Freedom 38
“Acquittal”----- Original Message -----
From: timothyslane
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 4:33 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Transport height of Freedom 38I am arranging road transport for my freedom 38 with 6’6" draft.
Can
anyone tell me the height of the boat to the top of the pullpit.
I’m
away from my boat at the moment so can’t measure it. the height
from
the water to the pullpit will help as I can then add the draft.Thank you
Tim
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Posted by michel.capel (michel.capel@…>)
Dockwise is world leader in yacht shipping in dockships. It’s a
company from the Netherlands with a sound reputation. They also
shipped Gio Schouten’s F44 from the US to Europe. He was very
positive about them too.
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, Rees Midgley
<rmidgley@…> wrote:
While not land-based, we have nothing but praise to say for
Dockwise
Transport. They took our 36/38 foot Freedom from Newport, RI to
St.
Thomas, USVI in five days without a single problem. We floated
her
on, they pulled her to chocks previously arranged for her, divers
went down to set the chocks, the transport rose, water drained
out,
and our Freedom was sitting there pretty, high and dry on
chocks.
They then sailed down. In St. Thomas, we climbed a gangplank,
got
into our boat, they re-sunk the transport, our boat started to
float,
divers went below to release our boat, the huge transom was
lowered,
and we motored out with nary a scratch. Wonderful. You can even
stay on your boat for the trip if you wish.On Jan 24, 2007, at 5:01 AM, michel.capel wrote:
I had a similar experience when transporting my F44 from Mobile, AL
to Port Canaveral, FL. To sum it up:
- deepload trailer height not taken into account, so over height
limit, extra costs $750 for permit and pole car;- extensive communication about pickup and discharge date window
and
still they did not live up to the contract, costing me an extra
$1000 for craning and marina costs to store the boat for three
days.They did it, but with a lot of frustration on my side.
I would advise you not to work with Loadaboat from TX (contact
person Scott Steinbaugh (I won’t forget his name soon).— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Michael G Katz”
<mgkatz@> wrote:Tim–
I had my Freedom 38 (with 4’ wing keel) transported last June by
Deepwater Transport, Washington, N.C. All ended well, but not
without some complications.First, due to the 38’s beam, your boat may very will need an
escort through some states. This is mainly a matter of cost and
permits, and perhaps some routing.Second, while my boat height was 5’ 6" from top of deck to bottom
of hull, my actual highest point on deck was my pedestal which
added
another 2 feet. Add to that the 4 foot keel, and I came in at 11’
6". Because the legal limit for height is 13’ 6", I thought I was
home free. HOWEVER…
this did not take into account the height of trailer, which adds
about another foot. Still okay, right? Well, at last minute
(literally) the transport company tells me that because I have a
wing keel, and it is wider than four feet (port to starboard), that
my boat will not ride low enough on trailer to clear the legal
height limit. So, in addition to needing one of their special
trailiers, I also needed special routing and additional permits
which added $500+ to the cost of transport. At this point I was
just glad they could make this all work, so I paid it. Because you
have a fin keel your boat would presumably sit lower on trailer
than
my boat, but you do have another 2 and 1/2 feet below you, so it
seems to me this will be a close call.Third, just an FYI…I told them in January I wanted my boat
moved in June. I also gave them a big (two week) window to move my
boat. They picked me up at my boatyard on the last day of the two
week window; and then they took the boat to their yard, where it
sat
for another week while they tried to get a driver to take me. As a
result, I didn’t have time to get much of my pre-launch work done
at
the new yard.Bottom line is that the boat got there safely and without damage,
but not without frustration and extra cost. Lack of advance
planning on their part, and lack of communication with me–I
literally had to constantly call them to find out what was going
on–
made this an unpleasant experience. I think you can expect your
own
version of these problems, so just anticipate as much as YOU can
because they won’t; and don’t expect anything close to precision
timing.
Michael Katz
Freedom 38
“Acquittal”----- Original Message -----
From: timothyslane
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 4:33 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Transport height of Freedom 38I am arranging road transport for my freedom 38 with 6’6"
draft.
Can
anyone tell me the height of the boat to the top of the
pullpit.
I’m
away from my boat at the moment so can’t measure it. the height
from
the water to the pullpit will help as I can then add the draft.Thank you
Tim
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