Posted by angiebera (angiebera@…>)
hey there group,
i know i e-mailed everyone about this about a year ago and we just
decided to hold off and use one element on our heater. we fear the
other one is about to go and need your help-see the message from my
boyfriend and co-boat owner below-any advice would be greatly
appreciated:
Please ask the Freedom group for Element replacement sources…
We are down to one there use to be 2 heating element coils…
Data from our water heater:
SS-Marine Water Heater
Model # 8446
12 Gallons
110 V AC
9 AMPs
1KW for 110V AC
Made in Taiwan
Horizontal SS Case outside
Circular SS case inside
Outside case = 24" x 12.5" x 12.5"
Had two heating elements
One rotted
We short circuited the elements and are now on one…
Can we replace the elements or do we need to buy a whole new water
heater?
Craig
Freedom45yachts.com
Posted by Dave_Benjamin (dave_benjamin@…>)
If you end up replacing the water heater look into an LPG powered
tankless on demand unit. Paploma’s used to be real popular but the
only one I see around these days is made by Bosch. Tank style water
heaters are a waste of space, even in a house.
On our boat we had a separate heat exchanger tied into the hydronic
heating that supplied hot water.
Another thing I’d consider adding is an AC hot water dispenser at the
galley sink for use while in port although if you had a really large
house bank and big inverter you might be able to get away with using
it away from the dock. The reason I like the household style AC hot
water dispenser is that it’s super convenient when you’re plugged into
shorepower and you don’t have to leave the propane on to use it.
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “angiebera” <angiebera@…>
wrote:
hey there group,
i know i e-mailed everyone about this about a year ago and we just
decided to hold off and use one element on our heater. we fear the
other one is about to go and need your help-see the message from my
boyfriend and co-boat owner below-any advice would be greatly
appreciated:
Please ask the Freedom group for Element replacement sources…
We are down to one there use to be 2 heating element coils…
Data from our water heater:
SS-Marine Water Heater
Model # 8446
12 Gallons
110 V AC
9 AMPs
1KW for 110V AC
Made in Taiwan
Horizontal SS Case outside
Circular SS case inside
Outside case = 24" x 12.5" x 12.5"
Had two heating elements
One rotted
We short circuited the elements and are now on one…
Can we replace the elements or do we need to buy a whole new water
heater?
Craig
Freedom45yachts.com
Posted by Jerome Weinraub (zayde@…>)
Are they a fire/explosion hazard?
----- Original Message -----
From: “Dave_Benjamin” <dave_benjamin@…>
To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 2:35 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: water heater once again
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If you end up replacing the water heater look into an LPG powered
tankless on demand unit. Paploma’s used to be real popular but the
only one I see around these days is made by Bosch. Tank style water
heaters are a waste of space, even in a house.
On our boat we had a separate heat exchanger tied into the hydronic
heating that supplied hot water.
Another thing I’d consider adding is an AC hot water dispenser at the
galley sink for use while in port although if you had a really large
house bank and big inverter you might be able to get away with using
it away from the dock. The reason I like the household style AC hot
water dispenser is that it’s super convenient when you’re plugged into
shorepower and you don’t have to leave the propane on to use it.
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “angiebera” <angiebera@…>
wrote:
hey there group,
i know i e-mailed everyone about this about a year ago and we just
decided to hold off and use one element on our heater. we fear the
other one is about to go and need your help-see the message from my
boyfriend and co-boat owner below-any advice would be greatly
appreciated:
Please ask the Freedom group for Element replacement sources…
We are down to one there use to be 2 heating element coils…
Data from our water heater:
SS-Marine Water Heater
Model # 8446
12 Gallons
110 V AC
9 AMPs
1KW for 110V AC
Made in Taiwan
Horizontal SS Case outside
Circular SS case inside
Outside case = 24" x 12.5" x 12.5"
Had two heating elements
One rotted
We short circuited the elements and are now on one…
Can we replace the elements or do we need to buy a whole new water
heater?
Craig
Freedom45yachts.com
Yahoo! Groups Links
Posted by macks011 (macks04@…>)
Heating elements are standard , off the shelf,commodities. You
should be able to find one of the proper wattage rating at a good
plumbing supply or Home Depot.
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “angiebera”
<angiebera@…> wrote:
hey there group,
i know i e-mailed everyone about this about a year ago and we just
decided to hold off and use one element on our heater. we fear
the
other one is about to go and need your help-see the message from
my
boyfriend and co-boat owner below-any advice would be greatly
appreciated:
Please ask the Freedom group for Element replacement sources…
We are down to one there use to be 2 heating element coils…
Data from our water heater:
SS-Marine Water Heater
Model # 8446
12 Gallons
110 V AC
9 AMPs
1KW for 110V AC
Made in Taiwan
Horizontal SS Case outside
Circular SS case inside
Outside case = 24" x 12.5" x 12.5"
Had two heating elements
One rotted
We short circuited the elements and are now on one…
Can we replace the elements or do we need to buy a whole new water
heater?
Craig
Freedom45yachts.com
Posted by Alfred Roberts (lab2doodle@…>)
I’ve seem LPG water heaters in a Nonsuch 36. I would think there would be some risk of fire/explosion.Jerome Weinraub <zayde@…> wrote: Are they a fire/explosion hazard?----- Original Message ----- From: “Dave_Benjamin” <dave_benjamin@…>To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 2:35 AMSubject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: water heater once again> If you end up replacing the water heater look into an LPG powered> tankless on demand unit. Paploma’s used to be real popular but the> only one I see around these days is made by Bosch. Tank style water> heaters are a waste of space, even in a house.> > On our boat we had a separate heat exchanger tied into the hydronic> heating that supplied hot water. > >
Another thing I’d consider adding is an AC hot water dispenser at the> galley sink for use while in port although if you had a really large> house bank and big inverter you might be able to get away with using> it away from the dock. The reason I like the household style AC hot> water dispenser is that it’s super convenient when you’re plugged into> shorepower and you don’t have to leave the propane on to use it. > > > — In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “angiebera” <angiebera@…>> wrote:>>>> hey there group,>> >> i know i e-mailed everyone about this about a year ago and we just >> decided to hold off and use one element on our heater. we fear the >> other one is about to go and need your help-see the message from my >> boyfriend and co-boat owner below-any advice would be greatly >> appreciated:>> >>
Please ask the Freedom group for Element replacement sources…>> We are down to one there use to be 2 heating element coils…>> >> Data from our water heater:>> >> SS-Marine Water Heater>> Model # 8446>> 12 Gallons>> 110 V AC>> 9 AMPs>> 1KW for 110V AC>> Made in Taiwan>> Horizontal SS Case outside>> Circular SS case inside>> Outside case = 24" x 12.5" x 12.5">> >> Had two heating elements>> One rotted>> We short circuited the elements and are now on one…>> >> Can we replace the elements or do we need to buy a whole new water >> heater?>> >> Craig>> Freedom45yachts.com>>> > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links> > > > > > >
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Posted by Dave_Benjamin (dave_benjamin@…>)
Jerome,
No real danger. The modern units are quite safe. A thermocouple or
similar device shuts off the gas supply if the flame goes out. These
units are used in a variety of applications including households and
offices.
If you can find an old Paloma I’d even consider one of those. Paloma
went off the market not too long after a young woman taking a shower
in a boat died from carbon monoxide poisoning. The Paloma exhaust was
not vented to the outside and the unit was installed in the same
compartment as the shower. If a porthole had been cracked open she
would have lived. You do have to be more careful with a Paloma since
it’s not a modern unit. I know many liveaboards that have used them
for years without complaint though.
It’s best with propane appliances to have exhaust vented to the
atmosphere. The best propane appliances also draw intake air from
outside. An example is the hard to find “The Cat” catalytic propane
heater and other similar units. I’m not 100% sure how the Bosch is
plumbed. It may use ambient air for combustion. As long as exhaust is
directed to the atmosphere you’ll be fine. A proper boat has
ventilation in form of dorades or other types of vents. You want a
flow of air moving through the boat.
A real danger with propane is what happens if you have a leak inside
the boat. Propane is heavier than air so it sinks down into the bilges
and so forth. The best defense is a carbon monxide detector. Generally
speaking I never leave a boat with the propane left on. Solenoid
controlled valves mounted in the propane locker make this easy to do.
Just press the button and the valve closes. We only turn on propane
when we actually need it.
Now if you really want to keep your boat warm and have an unlimited
supply of hot water I recommend a good hydronic heating system like
the Hurricane system from Canada. Diesel powered so no worries about
propane.
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, Jerome Weinraub <zayde@…>
wrote:
Are they a fire/explosion hazard?
----- Original Message -----
From: “Dave_Benjamin” <dave_benjamin@…>
To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 2:35 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: water heater once again
If you end up replacing the water heater look into an LPG powered
tankless on demand unit. Paploma’s used to be real popular but the
only one I see around these days is made by Bosch. Tank style water
heaters are a waste of space, even in a house.
On our boat we had a separate heat exchanger tied into the hydronic
heating that supplied hot water.
Another thing I’d consider adding is an AC hot water dispenser at the
galley sink for use while in port although if you had a really large
house bank and big inverter you might be able to get away with using
it away from the dock. The reason I like the household style AC hot
water dispenser is that it’s super convenient when you’re plugged into
shorepower and you don’t have to leave the propane on to use it.
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “angiebera” <angiebera@>
wrote:
hey there group,
i know i e-mailed everyone about this about a year ago and we just
decided to hold off and use one element on our heater. we fear the
other one is about to go and need your help-see the message from my
boyfriend and co-boat owner below-any advice would be greatly
appreciated:
Please ask the Freedom group for Element replacement sources…
We are down to one there use to be 2 heating element coils…
Data from our water heater:
SS-Marine Water Heater
Model # 8446
12 Gallons
110 V AC
9 AMPs
1KW for 110V AC
Made in Taiwan
Horizontal SS Case outside
Circular SS case inside
Outside case = 24" x 12.5" x 12.5"
Had two heating elements
One rotted
We short circuited the elements and are now on one…
Can we replace the elements or do we need to buy a whole new water
heater?
Craig
Freedom45yachts.com
Yahoo! Groups Links
Posted by lance_ryley (lance_ryley@…>)
Craig,
Bright Star has an older Isotherm electric system with engine heat
exchanger. Defender had a few of them on clearance last time I was
there… don’t remember the price but it was a good savings off the
original price.
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “angiebera”
<angiebera@…> wrote:
hey there group,
i know i e-mailed everyone about this about a year ago and we just
decided to hold off and use one element on our heater. we fear
the
other one is about to go and need your help-see the message from
my
boyfriend and co-boat owner below-any advice would be greatly
appreciated:
Please ask the Freedom group for Element replacement sources…
We are down to one there use to be 2 heating element coils…
Data from our water heater:
SS-Marine Water Heater
Model # 8446
12 Gallons
110 V AC
9 AMPs
1KW for 110V AC
Made in Taiwan
Horizontal SS Case outside
Circular SS case inside
Outside case = 24" x 12.5" x 12.5"
Had two heating elements
One rotted
We short circuited the elements and are now on one…
Can we replace the elements or do we need to buy a whole new water
heater?
Craig
Freedom45yachts.com
Posted by Paul McFadden (pwhitmac@…>)
Let’s put it this way, unless things have changed recently, the USCG does not approve them,(open flame unattended, etc.). However on the other side, Eric Hiscock had a primus fueled refer unit in Wanderer III, so… PWMJerome Weinraub <zayde@…> wrote: Are they a fire/explosion hazard?----- Original Message ----- From: “Dave_Benjamin” <dave_benjamin@…>To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 2:35 AMSubject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: water heater once again> If you end up replacing the water heater look into an LPG powered> tankless on demand unit. Paploma’s used to be real popular but the> only one I see around these days is made by Bosch. Tank style water> heaters are a waste of space, even in a house.>
On our boat we had a separate heat exchanger tied into the hydronic> heating that supplied hot water. > > Another thing I’d consider adding is an AC hot water dispenser at the> galley sink for use while in port although if you had a really large> house bank and big inverter you might be able to get away with using> it away from the dock. The reason I like the household style AC hot> water dispenser is that it’s super convenient when you’re plugged into> shorepower and you don’t have to leave the propane on to use it. > > > — In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “angiebera” <angiebera@…>> wrote:>>>> hey there group,>> >> i know i e-mailed everyone about this about a year ago and we just >> decided to hold off and use one element on our heater. we fear the >> other one is about to go and need your help-see the message
from my >> boyfriend and co-boat owner below-any advice would be greatly >> appreciated:>> >> Please ask the Freedom group for Element replacement sources…>> We are down to one there use to be 2 heating element coils…>> >> Data from our water heater:>> >> SS-Marine Water Heater>> Model # 8446>> 12 Gallons>> 110 V AC>> 9 AMPs>> 1KW for 110V AC>> Made in Taiwan>> Horizontal SS Case outside>> Circular SS case inside>> Outside case = 24" x 12.5" x 12.5">> >> Had two heating elements>> One rotted>> We short circuited the elements and are now on one…>> >> Can we replace the elements or do we need to buy a whole new water >> heater?>> >> Craig>> Freedom45yachts.com>>> >
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