Posted by John Jones (a1john@…>)
Hi All: Is there a factual case of a wet Freedom hull actually
coming to grief? Or, is it a case of “what if’s”? My f33 #55 has had
some wet spots above the waterline for at least ten years. A result
of leaking stern pulpit bedding. I finally opened up a couple
blisters and must have got out at least a pint of clear water. That
is a lot! However, again I ask how serious is this? There appears to
be nothing below the water line which is amazing. John Jones
Posted by Dave_Benjamin (dave_benjamin@…>)
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “John Jones” <a1john@c…>
wrote:
Hi All: Is there a factual case of a wet Freedom hull actually
coming to grief? Or, is it a case of “what if’s”? My f33 #55 has
had
some wet spots above the waterline for at least ten years. A result
of leaking stern pulpit bedding. I finally opened up a couple
blisters and must have got out at least a pint of clear water. That
is a lot! However, again I ask how serious is this? There appears
to
be nothing below the water line which is amazing. John Jones
Actually wet balsa is nowhere near as bad as rotted balsa. There as to
be a source of oxygen for rot to occur. From a structural standpoint
there is not a significant reduction in strength wilth wet balsa, only
with rotted balsa.
A F-39 went up on the reef at Ano Nuevo many years ago. The boat
sustained major damage from boucing around but miraculously there was
no significant water intrusion inside the boat. The boat was purchased
from the insurance company for scrap value and then the long
restoration process began. Although the outer shell of the hull had
been damaged and the balsa soaked the boat was successfully recored
and is out sailing today.
I’d have no hesitation taking a TPI built Freedom anywhere as long as
it hadn’t been screwed up by ignorant owners.
Posted by andre laviolette (andrelaviolette@…>)
Water in hulls is not limited to only cored hulls and decks. My concern is with hulls that have entraped water and experience hard freezing temperatures. Andre.John Jones <a1john@…> wrote: Hi All: Is there a factual case of a wet Freedom hull actuallycoming to grief? Or, is it a case of “what if’s”? My f33 #55 has hadsome wet spots above the waterline for at least ten years. A resultof leaking stern pulpit bedding. I finally opened up a coupleblisters and must have got out at least a pint of clear water. Thatis a lot! However, again I ask how serious is this? There appears tobe nothing below the water line which is amazing. John Jones
Find your next car at Yahoo! Canada Autos
Posted by williedoylemom (williedoylemom@…>)
We are, hopefully, soon-to-be Freedom owners. Unfortunately major
snow storms have made us put off tomorrow’s survey until Feb. 1.
Darn. However, all this talk about balsa core and wet hulls, etc.
prompted us to give Paul Dennis a call. He’s the fellow who worked
at Freedom Yachts for years and now has his own boatyard, Warren
River Marina. He is the also the person to whom Freedom now
forwards all inquiries. He told us that, in later model Freedoms,
the areas around through hulls do not have balsa in them; that they
are totally glass for a several inch radius. Thus, there is little
chance of water intrusion from those areas, at least. All this
discussion does make us realize that we will need to be careful
about frequent rebedding of stanchions, etc.
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, andre laviolette
<andrelaviolette@y…> wrote:
Water in hulls is not limited to only cored hulls and decks. My
concern is with hulls that have entraped water and experience hard
freezing temperatures.
Andre.
John Jones <a1john@c…> wrote:
Hi All: Is there a factual case of a wet Freedom hull actually
coming to grief? Or, is it a case of “what if’s”? My f33 #55 has
had
some wet spots above the waterline for at least ten years. A
result
of leaking stern pulpit bedding. I finally opened up a couple
blisters and must have got out at least a pint of clear water.
That
is a lot! However, again I ask how serious is this? There
appears to
be nothing below the water line which is amazing. John Jones
SPONSORED LINKS
Sailing schools Sailing instruction Sailing lesson
Sailing course Sailing adventure Sailing
YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
Visit your group "freedomyachts2003" on the web.
To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
freedomyachts2003-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
Service.
Find your next car at Yahoo! Canada Autos
Posted by macks011 (macks04@…>)
Speaking for The Mull boats, vintage '86 and newer, the areas of
concern are cabin top penetrations including ports and canvas
attachment points. The deck is solid glass in a 4" band around its
perimeter, so the stanchions, scuppers, deckfills, and cleats are
not an issue. The transoms are solid glass and the hull, 6" either
side of the centerline and fore and aft of the keel is solid
glass as well as a 2" band around the hull below the hull/deck joint.
By all means, exercise due diligence, but don’t be unduly alarmed.
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “williedoylemom”
<williedoylemom@y…> wrote:
We are, hopefully, soon-to-be Freedom owners. Unfortunately major
snow storms have made us put off tomorrow’s survey until Feb. 1.
Darn. However, all this talk about balsa core and wet hulls, etc.
prompted us to give Paul Dennis a call. He’s the fellow who
worked
at Freedom Yachts for years and now has his own boatyard, Warren
River Marina. He is the also the person to whom Freedom now
forwards all inquiries. He told us that, in later model Freedoms,
the areas around through hulls do not have balsa in them; that
they
are totally glass for a several inch radius. Thus, there is
little
chance of water intrusion from those areas, at least. All this
discussion does make us realize that we will need to be careful
about frequent rebedding of stanchions, etc.
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, andre laviolette
<andrelaviolette@y…> wrote:
Water in hulls is not limited to only cored hulls and decks. My
concern is with hulls that have entraped water and experience hard
freezing temperatures.
Andre.
John Jones <a1john@c…> wrote:
Hi All: Is there a factual case of a wet Freedom hull
actually
coming to grief? Or, is it a case of “what if’s”? My f33 #55
has
had
some wet spots above the waterline for at least ten years. A
result
of leaking stern pulpit bedding. I finally opened up a couple
blisters and must have got out at least a pint of clear water.
That
is a lot! However, again I ask how serious is this? There
appears to
be nothing below the water line which is amazing. John Jones
SPONSORED LINKS
Sailing schools Sailing instruction Sailing
lesson
Sailing course Sailing adventure Sailing
YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
Visit your group "freedomyachts2003" on the web.
To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
freedomyachts2003-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
Service.
Find your next car at Yahoo! Canada Autos
Posted by Michel Capel (mike_c_f35ck@…>)
On my Freedom 33/35 UK built catketch I found the same. The width of
the solid glass seams may be a bit different, but the approach is
the same. One addition: the cabin sides, where the ports are, are
solid glass.
Mind you, solid glass can also suffer from water ingress in the
laminate, especially in vertical surfaces, like the cabin sides
under the ports. The holes for the ports were sawn out, but the open
laminate was not covered in any way.
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “macks011” <macks04@o…>
wrote:
Speaking for The Mull boats, vintage '86 and newer, the areas of
concern are cabin top penetrations including ports and canvas
attachment points. The deck is solid glass in a 4" band around its
perimeter, so the stanchions, scuppers, deckfills, and cleats are
not an issue. The transoms are solid glass and the hull, 6" either
side of the centerline and fore and aft of the keel is solid
glass as well as a 2" band around the hull below the hull/deck
joint.
By all means, exercise due diligence, but don’t be unduly alarmed.
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “williedoylemom”
<williedoylemom@y…> wrote:
We are, hopefully, soon-to-be Freedom owners. Unfortunately
major
snow storms have made us put off tomorrow’s survey until Feb. 1.
Darn. However, all this talk about balsa core and wet hulls,
etc.
prompted us to give Paul Dennis a call. He’s the fellow who
worked
at Freedom Yachts for years and now has his own boatyard, Warren
River Marina. He is the also the person to whom Freedom now
forwards all inquiries. He told us that, in later model
Freedoms,
the areas around through hulls do not have balsa in them; that
they
are totally glass for a several inch radius. Thus, there is
little
chance of water intrusion from those areas, at least. All this
discussion does make us realize that we will need to be careful
about frequent rebedding of stanchions, etc.
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, andre laviolette
<andrelaviolette@y…> wrote:
Water in hulls is not limited to only cored hulls and decks.
My
concern is with hulls that have entraped water and experience
hard
freezing temperatures.
Andre.
John Jones <a1john@c…> wrote:
Hi All: Is there a factual case of a wet Freedom hull
actually
coming to grief? Or, is it a case of “what if’s”? My f33 #55
has
had
some wet spots above the waterline for at least ten years. A
result
of leaking stern pulpit bedding. I finally opened up a couple
blisters and must have got out at least a pint of clear
water.
That
is a lot! However, again I ask how serious is this? There
appears to
be nothing below the water line which is amazing. John Jones
SPONSORED LINKS
Sailing schools Sailing instruction Sailing
lesson
Sailing course Sailing adventure Sailing
YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
Visit your group "freedomyachts2003" on the web.
To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
freedomyachts2003-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms
of
Service.
Find your next car at Yahoo! Canada Autos