Posted by CMarshall (cmars@…>)
Want to put an autopilot on a 1983 F32 (Hoyt) for mostly coastal
sailing, especially for raising and lowering the sails when single
handing on windy days. Wheel or below deck? Raymarine or Simrad?
I’m leaning towards a Raymarine wheelpilot connected to the wind
indicator. Down the road possibly adding a windvane. This is
instead of a fancy more powerfull below deck unit that is power
hungry. My guess is that a midsize sailboat if it needs a powerful
pilot needs a windvane and not an electrical unit. What do you have or
think would work best?
For example a wheel unit and eventually a windvane or a below deck
unit, etc?
Thanks,
Charles
Posted by Kevin Ogden (kcogden@…>)
We have a belowdecks AP that works like a charm. Just get next size up from recommended for 32’. Not too powerhungry either if you do the standard drill of charging daily. Bit of a bear tho if engineless for 3 months as the boat was in the Pacific for a period when my brother-in-law took her on circumnav
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Subject: [freedomyachts2003] What autopilot for a F32-Hoyt?
Want to put an autopilot on a 1983 F32 (Hoyt) for mostly coastalsailing, especially for raising and lowering the sails when singlehanding on windy days. Wheel or below deck? Raymarine or Simrad? I’m leaning towards a Raymarine wheelpilot connected to the windindicator. Down the road possibly adding a windvane. This isinstead of a fancy more powerfull below deck unit that is powerhungry. My guess is that a midsize sailboat if it needs a powerfulpilot needs a windvane and not an electrical unit. What do you have orthink would work best?For example a wheel unit and eventually a windvane or a below deckunit, etc? Thanks, Charles
Posted by Doug Payne (doug.payne@…>)
We charter a F32 from Marina Del Ray
California, it has a Raymarine ST4000. haven’t experienced it in heavy
weather, but it worked great up to 25 knots apparent.
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Subject: [freedomyachts2003] What
autopilot for a F32-Hoyt?
Want to put an autopilot on a 1983 F32 (Hoyt) for
mostly coastal
sailing, especially for raising and lowering the
sails when single
handing on windy days. Wheel or below
deck? Raymarine or Simrad?
I’m leaning towards a Raymarine wheelpilot
connected to the wind
indicator. Down the road possibly adding a
windvane. This is
instead of a fancy more powerfull below deck unit
that is power
hungry. My guess is that a midsize sailboat
if it needs a powerful
pilot needs a windvane and not an electrical unit.
What do you have or
think would work best?
For example a wheel unit and eventually a windvane
or a below deck
unit, etc?
Thanks,
Charles
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Posted by David G. Evans (dgevans@…>)
People seem to be happy (except for those who aren’t) with the wheel units
up to 36-38 feet. A lot depends on expectations (quartering seas are a
problem) and sail trim to ease the helm. It’s useful to be able to leverage
the various components of your electronics - for instance I think you can
use the wind instrument as the wind vane.
dge
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Want to put an autopilot on a 1983 F32 (Hoyt) for mostly coastal
sailing, especially for raising and lowering the sails when single
handing on windy days. Wheel or below deck? Raymarine or Simrad?
I’m leaning towards a Raymarine wheelpilot connected to the wind
indicator. Down the road possibly adding a windvane. This is
instead of a fancy more powerfull below deck unit that is power
hungry. My guess is that a midsize sailboat if it needs a powerful
pilot needs a windvane and not an electrical unit. What do you have or
think would work best?
For example a wheel unit and eventually a windvane or a below deck
unit, etc?
Thanks,
Charles
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Posted by Paul McFadden (pwhitmac@…>)
I installed a Raymarine ST4000+ on my Hoyt 32 about a year ago and have been very happy with its performance. I also have it hooked-up so it “Sea-Talks” with my ST60 wind system. The result is a really pretty good electronic wind vane system. I’m not saying that it can’t be fooled, but by the same token, I’ve never seen a mech vane that couldn’t be fooled either. Additionally, I have it connected via NMEA 0130 with my (Garmin) GPS, so I can get GPS data on the A/P. As far as power consumption is concerned, I find it very acceptable, although I have to admit that I have a fairly strong house system (two GC6’s)
One thing I think needs to be said is that I mostly sail short to single-handed in the So. Cal. area. If I were going off shore, I think I would opt for a “below decks” unit. I feel (along with quite a few others) that the long term exposure of a “wheel” unit is really a challange to its longevity if you are spending long periods at sea. So bottom line, unless you’re planning a significant voyage, I would highly recommend the ST400+, or whatever the newest model is called.
PWM
CMarshall <cmars@…> wrote: Want to put an autopilot on a 1983 F32 (Hoyt) for mostly coastalsailing, especially for raising and lowering the sails when singlehanding on windy days. Wheel or below deck? Raymarine or Simrad? I’m leaning towards a Raymarine wheelpilot connected to the windindicator. Down the road possibly adding a windvane. This isinstead of a fancy more powerfull below deck unit that is powerhungry. My guess is that a midsize sailboat if it needs a powerfulpilot needs a windvane and not an electrical unit. What do you have orthink would work best?For example a wheel unit and eventually a windvane or a below deckunit, etc? Thanks, Charles
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Posted by rick_simonds (rick_simonds@…>)
On my 32 I have a whole collection of stuff that has just kind of
grown over the years. I have an old belt drive Navico that really
only works under power or in gentler weather. I’m not sure why I
don’t trust it, it’s 18 years old and has steered several thousand
miles, but I don’t. It just gets overpowered in anything above
moderate wind.
I also have a mechanical windvane (Aries) that works well, even
better now that I have a solid vang and can balance the boat better
off the wind. Very cool device, I really like it. It takes some
practice and there are some circumstances it doesn’t like but it
will usually steer with anything above about 5 knots of wind across
the deck. I really love the idea of sturdy mechanical devices
instead of electronics.
I also have a tiller pilot that I hook to the Aries in place of the
air paddle. The vane amplifies the power of the very small
tillerpilot and sends the steering input to the wheel through the
vane lines. It works great, it steers in absolutely ANY weather
whatsoever. It’s unstoppable.
I singlehand alot as well. Between all of them I can always get the
boat to steer itself.
Having said all of the above, however, the weakness of my systems is
the set-up and tweaking they each require. As you say, just raising
and lowering a sail is what you need for coastal sailing. A “below
deck” that is ready to steer at the push of a button would be a
great convenience.
Email me if you want more info.