Posted by Peter Devlin (devlin_peter@…>)
Yesterday, a little after noon, having exited the Merrimack river,
turned off my engine, and while bouncing around in the confused and
frankly kind of overwhelming seas that characterize that particular
confluence of waters, I proceeded to raise my mainsail for a trip
down to Cape Anne. As I employed my winch to get the last little bit
of tension in the main halyard just right, said winch tore off the
cabin roof in one big expensive snarl. Luckily, the winch had a few
turns of line around it and so didn’t go in the drink. I dropped the
mainsail, scrambled to the foredeck and moved the main halyard to the
port side of the boat, allowing me to raise the sail and have a
ripping time sailing down to Rockport–all without being smashed to
pieces on the jetty at the end of the Merrimack, or being demolished
by any of the thousands of massive power boats plying the mouth of
the river.
Why do you suppose that happened (the part about the winch)? Are
the bolts just fatigued? Can one apply excessive force? Am I just a
bad person?
Hope everyone’s having a fun summer.
Peter
Posted by Nick Marino (blueraven1@…>)
WOW - Last time I serviced mine I think I remember there was a
plate with 4 bolts holding it down. Are you saying the plate came
OFF? Or did the Drum come off?
Nick
P.S for winch service information see page 2 (Barlow 1 Speed Self
Holding Winch, #15 & #16): http://www.ewmanchester.com/CalDocs/Barlow%
20Barient%20Winch_Specs-Parts-Service.pdf
— In freedom21@yahoogroups.com, “Peter Devlin” <devlin_peter@…>
wrote:
Yesterday, a little after noon, having exited the Merrimack
river,
turned off my engine, and while bouncing around in the confused and
frankly kind of overwhelming seas that characterize that particular
confluence of waters, I proceeded to raise my mainsail for a trip
down to Cape Anne. As I employed my winch to get the last little
bit
of tension in the main halyard just right, said winch tore off the
cabin roof in one big expensive snarl. Luckily, the winch had a
few
turns of line around it and so didn’t go in the drink. I dropped
the
mainsail, scrambled to the foredeck and moved the main halyard to
the
port side of the boat, allowing me to raise the sail and have a
ripping time sailing down to Rockport–all without being smashed to
pieces on the jetty at the end of the Merrimack, or being
demolished
by any of the thousands of massive power boats plying the mouth of
the river.
Why do you suppose that happened (the part about the winch)? Are
the bolts just fatigued? Can one apply excessive force? Am I just
a
bad person?
Hope everyone’s having a fun summer.
Peter
Posted by Sean Mulligan (quadmulligan@…>)
Hi Peter - did the coachtop rip out? I’ve seen how water can get in and rot the core of the deck. The culprit is the deck port where the hatch cover slides in. That access port seems to exist only to help launch the boat when it was originally splashed. Remove it and poke around at the innards - it will likely be all soft from water infiltration.
What i did was to dig as much “mush” as possible out and then filled with epoxy resin. Then I re-beded the port and put in a new gasket.
Please keep us updated on repairs…and I’m glad your resorcefulness allowed you to enjoy your sail!
Sean - Emmylou 307 (and looking for another outboard - anyone got one?!)— On Sun, 7/13/08, Peter Devlin <devlin_peter@…> wrote:
From: Peter Devlin <devlin_peter@…>Subject: [freedom21] Winch bluesTo: freedom21@yahoogroups.comDate: Sunday, July 13, 2008, 8:47 PM
Yesterday, a little after noon, having exited the Merrimack river, turned off my engine, and while bouncing around in the confused and frankly kind of overwhelming seas that characterize that particular confluence of waters, I proceeded to raise my mainsail for a trip down to Cape Anne. As I employed my winch to get the last little bit of tension in the main halyard just right, said winch tore off the cabin roof in one big expensive snarl. Luckily, the winch had a few turns of line around it and so didn’t go in the drink. I dropped the mainsail, scrambled to the foredeck and moved the main halyard to the port side of the boat, allowing me to raise the sail and have a ripping time sailing down to Rockport–all without being smashed to pieces on the jetty at the end of the Merrimack, or being demolished by any of the thousands of massive power boats plying the mouth of the river.Why do you
suppose that happened (the part about the winch)? Are the bolts just fatigued? Can one apply excessive force? Am I just a bad person?Hope everyone’s having a fun summer.Peter
Posted by Peter Devlin (devlin_peter@…>)
Hey Sean. No. The coach roof is intact. The bolts sheared off–
i.e.the washers and the nuts landed inside the cabin, and the rest of
the stuff headed bow ward. It could be the bolts/nuts where stressed
by wet core freezing over the winter and exerting pressure on them.
I did a fair bit of core replacement over the winter–mostly in the
area under the traveler–so I know about wet mush. My suspicion is
there is more wet core, but I’ve done what I felt like doing for the
time being.
What have you been up to? Where have you been sailing? How’s Emmylou?
I have a Mercury 6 HP short shaft 2 stroke that runs great. I bought
it used for a dinghy, but ended up going with a dock instead of a
mooring, so I don’t need it. Cheers.
Peter
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Hi Peter - did the coachtop rip out? I’ve seen how water can get in
and rot the core of the deck. The culprit is the deck port where the
hatch cover slides in. That access port seems to exist only to help
launch the boat when it was originally splashed. Remove it and poke
around at the innards - it will likely be all soft from water
infiltration.
What i did was to dig as much “mush” as possible out and then
filled with epoxy resin. Then I re-beded the port and put in a new
gasket.
Please keep us updated on repairs…and I’m glad your
resorcefulness allowed you to enjoy your sail!
Sean - Emmylou 307 (and looking for another outboard - anyone got
one?!)
— On Sun, 7/13/08, Peter Devlin <devlin_peter@…> wrote:
From: Peter Devlin <devlin_peter@…>
Subject: [freedom21] Winch blues
To: freedom21@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008, 8:47 PM
Yesterday, a little after noon, having exited the Merrimack river,
turned off my engine, and while bouncing around in the confused and
frankly kind of overwhelming seas that characterize that particular
confluence of waters, I proceeded to raise my mainsail for a trip
down to Cape Anne. As I employed my winch to get the last little
bit
of tension in the main halyard just right, said winch tore off the
cabin roof in one big expensive snarl. Luckily, the winch had a few
turns of line around it and so didn’t go in the drink. I dropped
the
mainsail, scrambled to the foredeck and moved the main halyard to
the
port side of the boat, allowing me to raise the sail and have a
ripping time sailing down to Rockport–all without being smashed to
pieces on the jetty at the end of the Merrimack, or being
demolished
by any of the thousands of massive power boats plying the mouth of
the river.
Why do you suppose that happened (the part about the winch)? Are
the bolts just fatigued? Can one apply excessive force? Am I just a
bad person?
Hope everyone’s having a fun summer.
Peter
Posted by DAVE RODGERS (dav.rodgers@…>)
Interesting mishap! I have recently gone through all of the bolts, nuts, and screws on the craft to check for tightness and wear. Many were not as tight as they could have been through the fiberglass (light screws and winch screws) but none where warn to the point of such distress as to cause a flying winch pulley under load. Did the bolts break from the winch or was there fiberglass damage as well? I sail in fresh water (Lake Ontario) so my wear and corrosion is somewhat minimal. Regardless I know that we are all using stainless steal. I would be interested to know the cause of your situation… On a side note… ‘A genoa/jib’. Recently bought a huge one off of ebay from a 36 footer, tailered it down to size and sailed with it. Wow, it adds close to 3+ knots on a 15 knot downwind. Cheers to all, Dave
Rodgers Havana "42"Peter Devlin <devlin_peter@…> wrote: Hey Sean. No. The coach roof is intact. The bolts sheared off–i.e.the washers and the nuts landed inside the cabin, and the rest of the stuff headed bow ward. It could be the bolts/nuts where stressed by wet core freezing over the winter and exerting pressure on them. I did a fair bit of core replacement over the winter–mostly in the area under the traveler–so I know about wet mush. My suspicion is there is more wet core, but I’ve done what I felt like doing for the time being. What have you been up to? Where have you been sailing? How’s Emmylou?I have a Mercury 6 HP short shaft 2 stroke that runs great. I bought it used for a dinghy, but ended up going with a dock instead of a mooring, so I don’t need it.
Cheers.Peter- In freedom21@yahoogroups.com, Sean Mulligan wrote:>> Hi Peter - did the coachtop rip out? I’ve seen how water can get in and rot the core of the deck. The culprit is the deck port where the hatch cover slides in. That access port seems to exist only to help launch the boat when it was originally splashed. Remove it and poke around at the innards - it will likely be all soft from water infiltration.> What i did was to dig as much “mush” as possible out and then filled with epoxy resin. Then I re-beded the port and put in a new gasket.> Please keep us updated on repairs…and I’m glad your resorcefulness allowed you to enjoy your sail!> > Sean - Emmylou 307 (and looking for another outboard - anyone got one?!)> > — On Sun, 7/13/08, Peter Devlin wrote:> > From: Peter Devlin
Subject: [freedom21] Winch blues> To: freedom21@yahoogroups.com> Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008, 8:47 PM> > > > > > > Yesterday, a little after noon, having exited the Merrimack river, > turned off my engine, and while bouncing around in the confused and > frankly kind of overwhelming seas that characterize that particular > confluence of waters, I proceeded to raise my mainsail for a trip > down to Cape Anne. As I employed my winch to get the last little bit > of tension in the main halyard just right, said winch tore off the > cabin roof in one big expensive snarl. Luckily, the winch had a few > turns of line around it and so didn’t go in the drink. I dropped the > mainsail, scrambled to the foredeck and moved the main halyard to the > port side of the boat, allowing me to raise the sail and have a >
ripping time sailing down to Rockport–all without being smashed to > pieces on the jetty at the end of the Merrimack, or being demolished > by any of the thousands of massive power boats plying the mouth of > the river.> > Why do you suppose that happened (the part about the winch)? Are > the bolts just fatigued? Can one apply excessive force? Am I just a > bad person?> > Hope everyone’s having a fun summer.> > Peter>------------------------------------Yahoo! Groups Links<> To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/freedom21/<> Your email settings:Individual Email | Traditional<> To change settings online go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/freedom21/join(Yahoo! ID required)<> To change settings via email:mailto:freedom21-digest@yahoogroups.com
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Posted by Peter Devlin (devlin_peter@…>)
The bolts broke from the winch with no damage to the coach roof or
inside. Weird. Well I have one winch to go and only a few months to
sail, so…port winch don’t fail me!!!
– In freedom21@yahoogroups.com, DAVE RODGERS <dav.rodgers@…> wrote:
Interesting mishap!
I have recently gone through all of the bolts, nuts, and screws
on the craft to check for tightness and wear. Many were not as tight
as they could have been through the fiberglass (light screws and
winch screws) but none where warn to the point of such distress as to
cause a flying winch pulley under load. Did the bolts break from the
winch or was there fiberglass damage as well? I sail in fresh water
(Lake Ontario) so my wear and corrosion is somewhat minimal.
Regardless I know that we are all using stainless steal. I would be
interested to know the cause of your situation…
On a side note… ‘A genoa/jib’. Recently bought a huge one off
of ebay from a 36 footer, tailered it down to size and sailed with
it. Wow, it adds close to 3+ knots on a 15 knot downwind.
Cheers to all,
Dave Rodgers
Havana “42”
Peter Devlin <devlin_peter@…> wrote:
Hey Sean. No. The coach roof is intact. The bolts sheared off–
i.e.the washers and the nuts landed inside the cabin, and the rest
of
the stuff headed bow ward. It could be the bolts/nuts where
stressed
by wet core freezing over the winter and exerting pressure on them.
I did a fair bit of core replacement over the winter–mostly in the
area under the traveler–so I know about wet mush. My suspicion is
there is more wet core, but I’ve done what I felt like doing for
the
time being.
What have you been up to? Where have you been sailing? How’s
Emmylou?
I have a Mercury 6 HP short shaft 2 stroke that runs great. I
bought
it used for a dinghy, but ended up going with a dock instead of a
mooring, so I don’t need it. Cheers.
Peter
Hi Peter - did the coachtop rip out? I’ve seen how water can get
in
and rot the core of the deck. The culprit is the deck port where
the
hatch cover slides in. That access port seems to exist only to help
launch the boat when it was originally splashed. Remove it and poke
around at the innards - it will likely be all soft from water
infiltration.
What i did was to dig as much “mush” as possible out and then
filled with epoxy resin. Then I re-beded the port and put in a new
gasket.
Please keep us updated on repairs…and I’m glad your
resorcefulness allowed you to enjoy your sail!
Sean - Emmylou 307 (and looking for another outboard - anyone got
one?!)
— On Sun, 7/13/08, Peter Devlin wrote:
From: Peter Devlin
Subject: [freedom21] Winch blues
To: freedom21@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008, 8:47 PM
Yesterday, a little after noon, having exited the Merrimack
river,
turned off my engine, and while bouncing around in the confused
and
frankly kind of overwhelming seas that characterize that
particular
confluence of waters, I proceeded to raise my mainsail for a trip
down to Cape Anne. As I employed my winch to get the last little
bit
of tension in the main halyard just right, said winch tore off
the
cabin roof in one big expensive snarl. Luckily, the winch had a
few
turns of line around it and so didn’t go in the drink. I dropped
the
mainsail, scrambled to the foredeck and moved the main halyard to
the
port side of the boat, allowing me to raise the sail and have a
ripping time sailing down to Rockport–all without being smashed
to
pieces on the jetty at the end of the Merrimack, or being
demolished
by any of the thousands of massive power boats plying the mouth
of
the river.
Why do you suppose that happened (the part about the winch)? Are
the bolts just fatigued? Can one apply excessive force? Am I just
a
bad person?
Hope everyone’s having a fun summer.
Peter
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