Posted by holderbrian (holderbrian@…>)
Hello,
I’m new here. I’m looking for a freedom 21 to buy and I’d like to know
a little more about them, particularly, just how bad is the windward
performance? Also, what are other issues with the freedom 21s that I
should look at when buying one used?
Anybody got one or know of one for sale?
Posted by Clyde Wisner (clydewis@…>)
Where are you located? Clyde
holderbrian wrote:
Hello,
I’m new here. I’m looking for a freedom 21 to buy and I’d like to know
a little more about them, particularly, just how bad is the windward
performance? Also, what are other issues with the freedom 21s that I
should look at when buying one used?
Anybody got one or know of one for sale?
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Posted by holderbrian (holderbrian@…>)
I’m in SW Missouri. I’ll be sailing here and trailering to Alaska’s
Inside Passage.
Posted by george nigel (mooringsclytiesaunter@…>)
mine is for sale. It does very well to wind ward because i have all new sails including 150% Genoa.if your interested email or call me 1 920 834 0153 George holderbrian <holderbrian@…> wrote: Hello,I’m new here. I’m looking for a freedom 21 to buy and I’d like to know a little more about them, particularly, just how bad is the windward performance? Also, what are other issues with the freedom 21s that I should look at when buying one used?Anybody got one or know of one for
sale?
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Posted by Medium Al (hjulbyhavn@…>)
The shoal keel F21 is not as good to windward as the fin (Duh!)
I have one that is not for sale. She tacks at 110 degrees, including
leeway and all, doing about 5 knots if there is enough wind. Going
closer might be helpful for other reasons but it will not be much
faster. As you go closer the leeway increases and while everything
looks pretty good, and the wind blows in you hair, you are not making
any more progress.
New sails will allow you to tack at lesser angles but the shoal keel
needs to be moving at 3 knots to get a good grip with any sail.
The Jig and Genoa are said to be nice to have but if they cause too
much heel they have to come down, otherwise all gains will be lost to
leeway.
In a chop or gusty winds you need to reef early or run wide because at
over 15 degrees heel, the keel is pretty much behind the hull instead
of under it, at that point it is in essence 6 inches to short.
In strong winds, over 15, and with long smooth waves the fun starts
again, because now you can sail the waves in an “S” curve.
The fun factor is always high in this boat if you adhere to the laws
of physics. I sometimes think of myself as the “Sail-trip Police” - if
the under 30’ cruisers don’t trim their sails, they can’t shake me. In
fact I once had an F35 refuse to wave back after needing 4+ miles to
catch up, I have no idea of what he did wrong but I am guessing he had
the the mainsail trimmed too tight in conventional sloop style, or
maybe he was just a rotten egg, anyway I doubt the boat was the
problem it looked pretty nice to me.
Others race the F21 but it has to be for fun, and you have to
negotiate a handicap that fits your typical wind and wave pattern and
be satisfied to win on corrected time.