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Sailing the coast of Portugal southbound

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:42 am
by seadago
Hi everyone
Was wondering if anyone had done this before, and may have some advice for me.
All the way from Baiona, sailing the coast of Portugal close inshore (talking about up to about 6 miles offshore) has been navigating a mine field of fish traps, pods, and nets everywhere. I found them up to 110 mts depth. Coming into harbour is still worse as they are everywhere, including marked and/or discernible access channels.
This situation demands only day sailing, good Viz, and two people on sharp watch non stop scouting the horizon 30 degrees either side of the bow at all times.
In Cascais today, leaving for Sines tomorrow.
Does the situation get any better (in terms of density of obstacles and hazards) between Cascais and Cape St Vincent?
If not, perhaps I need to re-think my strategy and go further offshore? I rather not get fully into the Portuguese trades. Don't think Nausikaa is built for those conditions (waves are the problem, not wind), and would make little sense to swap one category of difficulty for another.
Any comments, views or advise much appreciated!

Re: Sailing the coast of Portugal southbound

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:23 pm
by arrancomrades

It was September/October 2002 and March/April 2003 that we sailed down this coast and had very few problems apart from one completely new fish farm north of Povoa de Varzim where we wintered.

Is the foot of your rudder attached to the keel? If so, I would suggest that when sailing the risks are minimal - a wee bit more when motoring but you will actually be very unlucky to foul anything and then a bread knife bolted to a long stick should be able to cut the rope that you hook. On the Scottish West Coast, there are pot buoys everywhere, some with floating ropes, but even when I accidentally hit them nothing has happened so far, touch wood, and all the other sailors' prayers, etc. Unless in a big sea, I think dumping the halyards should be enough to lessen the load while you hack away at the rope. And having your centreboard half down should also help to deflect them in the first place. Good luck and don't worry.

Re: Sailing the coast of Portugal southbound

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 3:37 pm
by seadago
Hi Mike.
Many thanks. I'm in Sagres today; rounded up St Vincent yesterday! The situation got much better further south of Cascais, but we also went deeper offshore.
Must have been very unlucky, because I got my prop fouled twice already in this passage, and had to endure a rather humiliating (and expensive!) tow the first time, and take a dip overboard in the middle of the Atlantic, about 20 miles off Figueira da Foz, to clear the screw the second time. The latter with a plastic bag!! One of those heavy duty woven things used to bag potatoes. It took me 15 mins in the water with a utility knife to cut, tear, and gnaw the fibers out of the prop.
No, the bottom of the rudder is not attached to the keel. Will contrive some sort of link next time Nausikaa is out of the water. For the rest, I'm learning to live with the annoyance, as I am told I'll have it all the way to Gib and beyond into the Mediterranean. Worse problem is when motoring in and out of harbours and anchorages, as the small pods are very poorly marked and difficult to spot.
One of those things. Thanks again!

Re: Sailing the coast of Portugal southbound

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:12 am
by VeloFellow
Great to see you are cruising. My f30(28) ck made that trip with first owner in 1982?
Clave' has a metal shoe at the rear of the keel extending beneath the front of the rudder. I still have had to dive to cut a line wrapped on the prop shaft once.
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