New (to me) 1982 Freedom 39 PH owner

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dgrodey
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New (to me) 1982 Freedom 39 PH owner

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Howdy!

I know what you're thinking, "The 39PH didn't come out until 1983." and you're right. Except the one I bought is hull number 002. I don't know if it was a prototype, or one that was used for the press at the time, but I do know it's definitely been through some changes during its history.

Currently it's moored near Houston, TX and I have plans to eventually (hopefully late next month) to sail it back to the East side of Florida where I live.
I've been back and forth twice since November living aboard the boat for about 5 weeks total, fixing things in order to get it in shape for the trip.

I would love to hear from anyone who has previous experience with this boat. It's currently named Salsa 2 - I'm going to change the name. Hope y'all don't mind but the current name seems to beg the question, "What happened to Salsa 1?".

I also hope y'all don't mind if I ask about 1.5 million questions regarding this boat and asking for recommendations regarding repair and sourcing for parts. In the meantime: Here's a pic of the boat when it was hauled for the survey - if it loads.
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Re: New (to me) 1982 Freedom 39 PH owner

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I think there’s a picture of this boat hanging in the bathroom of Paul Dennis’s shop. I’ve been looking at the picture for years, and then I saw you mention that you have hull #2.
Freedom 39 PH, number 002
Freedom 39 PH, number 002
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Josh
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F38, Hull #152
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Re: New (to me) 1982 Freedom 39 PH owner

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Wow tough crowd! 50+ views and no replies lol. I promise I'll try to be more of an asset than a liability.

HIN TSP39002M82F

I'll be honest - the boat seemed to be being used as a liveaboard for some time and had a LOT of deferred maintenance. But the sails look to be almost new, so I don't know if that was another owner back or the previous owner was planning on going somewhere with it. This was an estate sale, so I never got to meet the actual previous owner.

I had 2 surveyors, a guy with 40 some years experience and his apprentice he was training to replace him. The apprentice remembered the boat from her days in the Sea Scouts. The surveyor asked me with a grin if I was looking for a project. Of course I am!
Anyway, the surveyor pronounced the hull to be sound and the rigging in decent shape (there's a couple of lines and some other things that need to be replaced).
It's been repowered with a Yanmar 4JH. The installation seems like it was either a rush job or done by a previous owner (or both). The cockpit panel is inop and the shifter in the pilot house only goes into forward gear. And the wiring running up the bilge lays hard on the oil filter and starboard engine mount. (Former USAF Jet Engine Guy, I hate chafing wires)
The interior hatches and windows have leaked over time and have toasted the woodwork inside. I've replaced 2 of the windows, rebedded 2 ore and fixed the hatches.
Behind the electrical panel it looks like a Picasso painting if he'd done a still life of a plate of spaghetti.
Despite all this I really love this boat. I like the unconventional rigging and design and the way the pilot house is integrated. I really like the way it set up for easy single handing. As one of my new friends on the dock said when I gave him a tour, "Your boat is really weird, but I like it!".
So, yeah, it's a 40 yr old boat that's been neglected and hacked on. But it seems to have good bones. I gave it bonus points for having working AC and refrigerator.

Anyway, since y'all seem to like pictures, Here's some more from the survey and subsequent trips working on it:
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My surveyor discovers why we had no authority in reverse
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Coming out of the water
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Re: New (to me) 1982 Freedom 39 PH owner

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Hi RadioZephyr!

You posted about the same time as me!
Nice photo! If it's the same boat, the hatch over the piltohouse helm has been removed. I'll have to check and see if I can find any evidence next time I'm out there.

I called Paul and talked to him after I bought the boat. I was fishing for some drawings of the windows so I could get some new ones made. At least I think it was Paul.

Real nice guy either way.

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Pretty sure it’s the same boat, due to the “2” on the sail. Freedom used the production numbers of their boats as the sail number.

Yeah, Paul rules.
Josh
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Re: New (to me) 1982 Freedom 39 PH owner

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Just seen your post. The forum seems a bit quiet these days but let me offer a welcome. Despite the problems, that is one nice looking boat you have there, I'd sell my grandma for one of those, in any condition. Don't worry at 74 tomorrow, I have no grannies left to sell 😩. Anyway, I wish you all the best in your project. I for one like following other's projects so please do start a thread and let us know your progress.

Chris
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Re: New (to me) 1982 Freedom 39 PH owner

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Hi Chris! And Happy Birthday!

Thanks for the welcome and compliments. I've noticed it's a quiet board, but I'm OK with that because this has the most info regarding the 39 PH.

I've posted a few things where I think it fits. I don't think about documenting a lot of the stuff I've been doing. Either I don't have the time to take a picture, or the boat is a chaotic mess. The big table sure can hold a lot of tools! Also, I've had my dogs with me for the last 2 trips and they can be handful. They're about 10 lbs each or 20 lbs of combined fury. Depends on how you look at it. One of them discovered he can jump off the boat onto the dock the last day I was there. In a way, I'm impressed because he's 15yrs old.

Here's a pic of one of them "helping" me (by standing on my chest) find a broken wire to the stern light:
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