Posted by stevenov666 (wildlawnc@…>)
Anybody have experience or heard anything about any 33 cat ketch’s
doing any long term, carribean, down island cruising? Anyone with
experience trying to increase tankage on these? Any opinions on the
centerboard v. keel models? Thanks.–Steve
Posted by michel.capel (michel.capel@…>)
Steve,
Many long distance cruises in europe, the US and Oz have been made
with the F33 catketch, including transatlantic passages.
I would opt for the centreboard model for the following reasons:
The F33 bilge has a lot of unused space both forward and behind the
centreboard trunk. You could add extra tankeage there. I had two
huge truck lead acid batteries in the bilge behind the CB trunk; 50
US gallons would probably fit there.
Under the forward double bunk you could place a large watertank, but
that is not the best spot considering stability and performance. The
F33 dislikes weight in the bow.
Good luck,
Michel
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<wildlawnc@…> wrote:
Anybody have experience or heard anything about any 33 cat ketch’s
doing any long term, carribean, down island cruising? Anyone with
experience trying to increase tankage on these? Any opinions on
the
centerboard v. keel models? Thanks.–Steve
Posted by Ed Grey (ewlon3@…>)
The McMahon’s, who kept their 1982 F33 without centerboard, “Wanderer”, on the Cheaspeake, took a year’s sabbatical and went from Annapolis to Turks & Caicos, and maybe Haiti/Dominica and back in 2002. They sold “Wanderer” when they returned, and I still kick myself that I didn’t buy it.stevenov666 <wildlawnc@…> wrote: Anybody have experience or heard anything about any 33 cat ketch’s doing any long term, carribean, down island cruising? Anyone with experience trying to increase tankage on these? Any opinions on the centerboard v.
keel models? Thanks.–Steve
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Posted by george huffman (thatboatguy2@…>)
Ya know, people cross big oceans in dug out canoes. Not for me but it’s done. I’ve come to think that it’s more about the sailor than the boat. Just my 2 cents.GeorgeEd Grey <ewlon3@…> wrote: The McMahon’s, who kept their 1982 F33 without centerboard, “Wanderer”, on the Cheaspeake, took a year’s sabbatical and went from Annapolis to Turks & Caicos, and maybe Haiti/Dominica and back in 2002. They sold “Wanderer” when they returned, and I still kick myself that I didn’t buy it.stevenov666
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Posted by DAVID HEAD (davidknhead@…>)
Look for ‘Castaway’ She has 6/7 Atlantic crossings to her name. A Freedom 35 with centreboard.
Was rolled and almost pitchpoled by a large wave on last crossing, and survived well. It convinced meof the capability of these incredible boats. She is orioginal style wishbone rigged.
One bonus was that the board up facility allowed the boat to slew away from the bigger waves causing less apparant damage and softer ride. He streamed warps in the worst conditions of 45 knots+ wind.
----- Original Message ----From: george huffman <thatboatguy2@…>To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comSent: Monday, 24 September, 2007 2:37:05 AMSubject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] 33 cat ketch capable bluewater cruiser?
Ya know, people cross big oceans in dug out canoes. Not for me but it’s done. I’ve come to think that it’s more about the sailor than the boat. Just my 2 cents.GeorgeEd Grey <ewlon3@yahoo. com> wrote:
The McMahon’s, who kept their 1982 F33 without centerboard, “Wanderer”, on the Cheaspeake, took a year’s sabbatical and went from Annapolis to Turks & Caicos, and maybe Haiti/Dominica and back in 2002. They sold “Wanderer” when they returned, and I still kick myself that I didn’t buy it.stevenov666 <wildlawnc@aol. com> wrote:
Anybody have experience or heard anything about any 33 cat ketch’sdoing any long term, carribean, down island cruising? Anyone withexperience trying to increase tankage on these? Any opinions on thecenterboard v. keel models? Thanks.–Steve
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Posted by DAVID HEAD (davidknhead@…>)
George may just have the answer. The man not the boat.
----- Original Message ----From: DAVID HEAD <davidknhead@…>To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comSent: Monday, 24 September, 2007 11:50:22 AMSubject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] 33 cat ketch capable bluewater cruiser?
Look for ‘Castaway’ She has 6/7 Atlantic crossings to her name. A Freedom 35 with centreboard.
Was rolled and almost pitchpoled by a large wave on last crossing, and survived well. It convinced meof the capability of these incredible boats. She is orioginal style wishbone rigged.
One bonus was that the board up facility allowed the boat to slew away from the bigger waves causing less apparant damage and softer ride. He streamed warps in the worst conditions of 45 knots+ wind.
----- Original Message ----From: george huffman <thatboatguy2@ yahoo.com>To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. comSent: Monday, 24 September, 2007 2:37:05 AMSubject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] 33 cat ketch capable bluewater cruiser?
Ya know, people cross big oceans in dug out canoes. Not for me but it’s done. I’ve come to think that it’s more about the sailor than the boat. Just my 2 cents.GeorgeEd Grey <ewlon3@yahoo. com> wrote:
The McMahon’s, who kept their 1982 F33 without centerboard, “Wanderer”, on the Cheaspeake, took a year’s sabbatical and went from Annapolis to Turks & Caicos, and maybe Haiti/Dominica and back in 2002. They sold “Wanderer” when they returned, and I still kick myself that I didn’t buy it.stevenov666 <wildlawnc@aol. com> wrote:
Anybody have experience or heard anything about any 33 cat ketch’sdoing any long term, carribean, down island cruising? Anyone withexperience trying to increase tankage on these? Any opinions on thecenterboard v. keel models? Thanks.–Steve
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Posted by geraldfreshwater (freshwater@…>)
Look for ‘Castaway’ She has 6/7 Atlantic crossings to her name. A Freedom 35
with
centreboard.
Was rolled and almost pitchpoled by a large wave on last crossing, and
survived well. It
convinced me
of the capability of these incredible boats. She is orioginal style wishbone
rigged.
One bonus was that the board up facility allowed the boat to slew away from
the bigger
waves causing less apparant damage and softer ride. He streamed warps in the
worst
conditions of 45 knots+ wind.
Just back to forum after long holiday in Spain, hence late reply to this thread.
We now have Castaway, and find her a comfortable home for two for a month or two
cruising in coastal waters, as well as a safe and reassuring passage maker. We
are just
amateurs, however, and the p.o., George Tinley, sailed her more than 50,000
miles,
winning many offshore and trans-atlantic races, as well as cruising the
Carribean,
Canaries, and Azores. The knockdown mentioned (see “Yachting Monthly”, April
2001) was
the only serious misadventure, and she shows no sign of damage from that. The
worst
that has happened is chipping the glass fibre CB coating when checking some
Swedish
depth soundings.
Gerald & Lynda Freshwater
Posted by DAVID HEAD (davidknhead@…>)
I am pleased to hear the news of your ownership of ‘Castaway’
I would be grateful for any information about her and/or her log of cruises etc.
Kindest regards
David Head
----- Original Message ----From: geraldfreshwater <freshwater@…>To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comSent: Saturday, 20 October, 2007 11:20:11 PMSubject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: 33 cat ketch capable bluewater cruiser?
Look for ‘Castaway’ She has 6/7 Atlantic crossings to her name. A Freedom 35 with centreboard. > Was rolled and almost pitchpoled by a large wave on last crossing, and survived well. It convinced me> of the capability of these incredible boats. She is orioginal style wishbone rigged. > One bonus was that the board up facility allowed the boat to slew away from the bigger waves causing less apparant damage and softer ride. He streamed warps in the worst conditions of 45 knots+ wind.> > Just back to forum after long holiday in Spain, hence late reply to this thread.We now have Castaway, and find her a comfortable home for two for a month or two cruising in coastal waters, as well as a safe and reassuring passage maker. We are just amateurs, however, and the p.o., George Tinley, sailed her more than 50,000 miles, winning many offshore and trans-atlantic
races, as well as cruising the Carribean, Canaries, and Azores. The knockdown mentioned (see “Yachting Monthly”, April 2001) was the only serious misadventure, and she shows no sign of damage from that. The worst that has happened is chipping the glass fibre CB coating when checking some Swedish depth soundings. Gerald & Lynda Freshwater