Posted by George Huffman (thatboatguy2@…>)
Anyone want to get together for a coffee? I’m flexible
time/date/location but Grumps on a Saturday morning is nice as there
is the West Marine store there for shopping before/after. Or perhaps
someplace inner harbor Baltimore?
George
Posted by Jim Demerest (jdemer@…>)
Sounds good to me, I’m way up on the Magothy. BTW sailing two weeks ago in the snow off of Bloody Point was interesting. Camber spar snapped in two. Made for an interesting couple of minutes on the foredeck in 30 knots.
After that it was 10.5 over the bottom going down the Miles.
Regards,
Jim Demerest
F36/38 Lad of Remes
Posted by Al Lorman (ajl@…>)
Jim:
A
few years ago, Bacon’s had a camber spar for a larger Freedom, perhaps
your size. They could well still have it.
Al
Lorman
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Sounds good to me, I’m way up
on the Magothy. BTW sailing two weeks ago in the snow off of Bloody Point was
interesting. Camber spar snapped in two. Made for an interesting couple of
minutes on the foredeck in 30 knots.
After that it was 10.5 over
the bottom going down the Miles.
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Regards,
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Jim Demerest
F36/38 Lad of Remes
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Posted by Jim Demerest (jdemer@…>)
Al,
Thanks, but I’ve already ordered an new camber spar. The new one will be 1/4" larger in diaameter. Dave Bierig said that Freedom under sized their spars and they always should have been a larger size. It still lasted 20 years and I never babied it. Dave is going to send it to UK Allen without the forward end fitting so they can cut it if needed.
Jim Demerest
F26/38 Lady of Remes
Posted by George Huffman (thatboatguy2@…>)
Jim and I are meeting at Grumps around 11am Saturday. Anyone else?
George
Posted by Bob Weeks (rweeks6508@…>)
Did the camber spar cost a lot? And is
your boat a 26 or 38 or both…if must be nice to have two boats!
Bob
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Demerest
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008
5:45 PM
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Annapolis Area coffee?
Al,
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Thanks, but I’ve already ordered an new camber spar. The new one will
be 1/4" larger in diaameter. Dave Bierig said that Freedom under
sized their spars and they always should have been a larger size. It still
lasted 20 years and I never babied it. Dave is going to send it to UK
Allen without the forward end fitting so they can cut it if needed.
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Posted by Randy (crawfordceramics@…>)
I don’t think that wonderful sail maker will lift a finger in any big hurry if the cost is less than 1 boat buck-I’ll bet that the camber spar involves the 38.— On Wed, 12/10/08, Bob Weeks <rweeks6508@…> wrote:From: Bob Weeks <rweeks6508@…>Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Annapolis Area coffee?To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comDate: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 10:29 PM
Did the camber spar cost a lot? And is
your boat a 26 or 38 or both…if must be nice to have two boats! Bob
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Jim Demerest
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008
5:45 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re:
Annapolis Area coffee?
Al,
Thanks, but I’ve already ordered an new camber spar. The new one will
be 1/4" larger in diaameter. Dave Bierig said that Freedom under
sized their spars and they always should have been a larger size. It still
lasted 20 years and I never babied it. Dave is going to send it to UK
Allen without the forward end fitting so they can cut it if needed.
Jim Demerest
F26/38 Lady of Remes
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Posted by Jim Demerest (jdemer@…>)
Ok so I can’t type it’s a F36/38. The spar is $450 plus shipping. Waiting for an invoice from Dave Bierig. I If the last one lasted 20 years and this one is a larger diameter I look at it as a lifetime warranty.
Jim Demerest
F36/38 Lady of Remes
Posted by lance_ryley (lance_ryley@…>)
It is hard to believe that the camberspar on Glory is undersized - it
is a wicked piece of aluminum and I wouldn’t want to get hit by it.
It’s also not exactly ‘light.’ - adding another 1/4" to one seems a
bit… arbitrary.
Lance
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “Jim Demerest” <jdemer@…>
wrote:
Ok so I can’t type it’s a F36/38. The spar is $450 plus shipping.
Waiting for an invoice from Dave Bierig. I If the last one lasted 20
years and this one is a larger diameter I look at it as a lifetime
warranty.Jim Demerest
F36/38 Lady of Remes
Posted by Bob (rweeks6508@…>)
Ok your typing is forgiven…but wow! only $450 … does that include both SS ends and the tube in the middle?? thats only a half of a boat buck!Bob On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Jim Demerest wrote:Ok so I can’t type it’s a F36/38. The spar is $450 plus shipping. Waiting for an invoice from Dave Bierig. I If the last one lasted 20 years and this one is a larger diameter I look at it as a lifetime warranty. Jim Demerest F36/38 Lady of Remes
Posted by Sward (swardfullsail@…>)
This summer I worked at West Marine next to Grumps. If you go into West, tell them I said hello. Tell them I’m in warm Florida now. Grumps has a great Philly Chesestek Sandwich
“Life is a Reach, then you Jibe”
SWARD— On Thu, 12/11/08, Bob <rweeks6508@…> wrote:
From: Bob <rweeks6508@…>Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Annapolis Area coffee?To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comCc: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comDate: Thursday, December 11, 2008, 4:10 PM
Ok your typing is forgiven… but wow! only $450 … does that include both SS ends and the tube in the middle?? thats only a half of a boat buck!
Bob
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Jim Demerest wrote:
Ok so I can’t type it’s a F36/38. The spar is $450 plus shipping. Waiting for an invoice from Dave Bierig. I If the last one lasted 20 years and this one is a larger diameter I look at it as a lifetime warranty.
Jim Demerest
F36/38 Lady of Remes
Posted by Scott Forgey (jsforgey@…>)
I got one from Dave and he said the same to me for the F-32
camberspar.
The old one was fine but seized up and wouldn’t turn.
It seemed mighty substantial. I don’t know what the
issue with the size was.
The new one is rather robust. I am not sure why it is
bigger, but it seems to work anyway.
That is the way he is building them. And since he has very
particular opinions about things…well…we did it his way.
Not sure why…but the new one seems fine.
Scott Forgey
21362 Summertrace Circle
Boca Raton, FL 33428
561.445.5179
skype: sforgey1
“Nothing is ever wrong in the universe, there is only
what’s missing!”
W. Erhard
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Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:07 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Annapolis Area coffee?
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It is hard to believe that the camberspar on
Glory is undersized - it
is a wicked piece of aluminum and I wouldn’t want to get hit by it.
It’s also not exactly ‘light.’ - adding another 1/4" to one seems a
bit… arbitrary.
Lance
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com,
“Jim Demerest” <jdemer@…>
wrote:
Ok so I can’t type it’s a F36/38. The spar is $450 plus shipping.
Waiting for an invoice from Dave Bierig. I If the last one lasted 20
years and this one is a larger diameter I look at it as a lifetime
warranty.Jim Demerest
F36/38 Lady of Remes
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Posted by Bob (rweeks6508@…>)
I would think lighter/stronger if that is possible so that in light winds it tacks over without me having to go forward and give it a kick but strong enough to survive 60 knot winds…anyone with their sails up after 60 knts has to be crazy! {:>) That is why I asked about a carbon fiber middle piece the bendy part…Bob On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 10:57 PM, Scott Forgey wrote:I got one from Dave and he said the same to me for the F-32 camberspar. The old one was fine but seized up and wouldn’t turn. It seemed mighty substantial. I don’t know what the issue with the size was. The new one is rather robust. I am not sure why it is bigger, but it seems to work anyway. That is the way he is building them. And since he has very particular opinions about things…well…we did it his way. Not sure why…but the new one seems fine. Scott Forgey 21362 Summertrace Circle Boca Raton, FL 33428 561.445.5179 skype: sforgey1 “Nothing is ever wrong in the universe, there is only what’s missing!” W. Erhard From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of lance_ryley Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:07 PM To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re: Annapolis Area coffee? It is hard to believe that the camberspar on Glory is undersized - it is a wicked piece of aluminum and I wouldn’t want to get hit by it. It’s also not exactly ‘light.’ - adding another 1/4" to one seems a bit… arbitrary. Lance — In FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com, “Jim Demerest” <jdemer@…> wrote: > > Ok so I can’t type it’s a F36/38. The spar is $450 plus shipping. Waiting for an invoice from Dave Bierig. I If the last one lasted 20 years and this one is a larger diameter I look at it as a lifetime warranty. > > Jim Demerest > F36/38 Lady of Remes > No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.16/1843 - Release Date: 12/11/2008 8:36 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.16/1843 - Release Date: 12/11/2008 8:36 AM
Posted by Jim Demerest (jdemer@…>)
Bob,
Includes all of the parts. Dave Bierig insisted that it should be bigger. BTW I haven’t had and problem with the sail coming over in light winds. And yea only 1/2 of a boat unit. Maybe because it’s the holiday season.
Jim Demerest
F36/38 Lady of Remes
Posted by george huffman (thatboatguy2@…>)
It was great meeting over coffee at Grumps Jim,Now I got another face to the name. 
Thanks for understanding about my tardiness. George— On Sat, 12/13/08, Jim Demerest <jdemer@…> wrote:From: Jim Demerest <jdemer@…>Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Annapolis Area coffee?To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comDate: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 3:43 PM
Bob,
Includes all of the parts. Dave Bierig insisted that it should be bigger. BTW I haven’t had and problem with the sail coming over in light winds. And yea only 1/2 of a boat unit. Maybe because it’s the holiday season.
Jim Demerest
F36/38 Lady of Remes
Posted by Bob Weeks (rweeks6508@…>)
Is anyone planning to go to the Baltimore
Boat Show in January 2009??? It may be a nice time to also meet up with some
of you.
Bob
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of george huffman
Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008
4:47 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup]
Re: Annapolis Area coffee?
It was great meeting over coffee at Grumps Jim,
Now I got another face to the name. Thanks for understanding
about my tardiness.
George
— On Sat, 12/13/08, Jim Demerest <jdemer@comcast.net>
wrote:
From: Jim Demerest
<jdemer@comcast.net>
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Annapolis Area coffee?
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 3:43 PM
Bob,
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Includes all of the parts. Dave Bierig
insisted that it should be bigger. BTW I haven’t had and problem with the
sail coming over in light winds. And yea only 1/2 of a boat unit. Maybe
because it’s the holiday season.
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Jim Demerest
F36/38 Lady of Remes
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Posted by george huffman (thatboatguy2@…>)
I wasn’t planing on the show but I’d meet outside of the show someplace for coffee for sure. I might also take a piece of that foam action! How much do you have? George— On Sun, 12/14/08, Bob Weeks <rweeks6508@…> wrote:From: Bob Weeks <rweeks6508@…>Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Annapolis Area coffee?To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comDate: Sunday, December 14, 2008, 9:13 AM
Is anyone planning to go to the Baltimore
Boat Show in January 2009??? It may be a nice time to also meet up with some
of you. Bob
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of george huffman
Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008
4:47 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
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Re: Annapolis Area coffee?
It was great meeting over coffee at Grumps Jim,
Now I got another face to the name. Thanks for understanding
about my tardiness.
George
— On Sat, 12/13/08, Jim Demerest <jdemer@comcast. net>
wrote: From: Jim Demerest
<jdemer@comcast. net>
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re: Annapolis Area coffee?
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 3:43 PM
Bob,
Includes all of the parts. Dave Bierig
insisted that it should be bigger. BTW I haven’t had and problem with the
sail coming over in light winds. And yea only 1/2 of a boat unit. Maybe
because it’s the holiday season.
Jim Demerest
F36/38 Lady of Remes
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