Posted by allenmcclung (amcclung@…>)
I’ve been trying to get some of the things on my F-21 that are shown
on the Blue Merle. Can somebody tell me what he means by “Group 29”
batteries?
If that’s an ignorant question, please forgive.
Allen McClung
Posted by katorpus (katorpus@…>)
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “allenmcclung”
<amcclung@f…> wrote:
I’ve been trying to get some of the things on my F-21 that are
shown
on the Blue Merle. Can somebody tell me what he means by “Group
29”
batteries?If that’s an ignorant question, please forgive.
Allen McClung
Hey Allen…we’re ALL ignorant until we find out the answers. No
harm in ignorance
Group size:
A set of standard sizes for the external dimensions of a battery
(and the terminal configuration), standardized by Battery Council
International. All “group 29”, etc, batteries are the same size,
though they may differ in weight and capacity. If you know the group
size you’re looking for, then you know the battery will “fit” and
you buy the battery within that group with the appropriate amp hour
ratings etc for your application (higher amp hour rating = more
lead= more weight in a given group size. GENERALLY, larger group
size = larger dimensions…except that it gets weird 8D is a group
size and they are HUGE.
Wander down to Wally World or your local battery store and peruse
the catalog for various sizes (in relation to what they fit into)and
the racks of what’s there. You’ll get the idea.
Posted by lance_ryley (lance_ryley@…>)
Here’s a link to an incomplete list of BCI Battery Groups and their
metric and english sizes.
http://www.rtpnet.org/~teaa/bcigroup.html
Lance
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “allenmcclung”
<amcclung@f…> wrote:
I’ve been trying to get some of the things on my F-21 that are
shown
on the Blue Merle. Can somebody tell me what he means by “Group 29”
batteries?If that’s an ignorant question, please forgive.
Allen McClung
Posted by Allen McClung (amcclung@…>)
Okay, thanks. I’ll go to my local discount battery store and see what they’ve got. I printed out the picture of the battery setup on the Blue Merle. I’ll take that along with me. The print on the photo of the battery says “Trojan, deep cycle, something, something technical.” I’ve already got two marine batteries, one came with, and one I bought and put in my dock box. The Merle also has a switcher (I think), a round orange object, connected to what looks like an electrical panel and a smaller aluminum square box with a red light at the bottom. Then there’s a solar panel line going in someplace constantly charging the batteries. I’ve been trying to get one of my electric-savvy nautical buddies to explain this operation to me, but all they want to do is sail.
----- Original Message -----
From: katorpus
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 12:19 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Batteries
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “allenmcclung” <amcclung@f…> wrote:> I’ve been trying to get some of the things on my F-21 that are shown > on the Blue Merle. Can somebody tell me what he means by “Group 29” > batteries? > > If that’s an ignorant question, please forgive.> > Allen McClungHey Allen…we’re ALL ignorant until we find out the answers. No harm in ignoranceGroup size:A set of standard sizes for the external dimensions of a battery (and the terminal configuration), standardized by Battery Council International. All “group 29”, etc, batteries are the same size, though they may differ in weight and capacity. If you know the group size you’re looking for, then you know the battery will “fit” and you buy the battery within that group with the appropriate amp hour ratings etc for your application (higher amp hour rating = more lead= more weight in a given group size. GENERALLY, larger group size = larger dimensions…except that it gets weird 8D is a group size and they are HUGE. Wander down to Wally World or your local battery store and peruse the catalog for various sizes (in relation to what they fit into)and the racks of what’s there. You’ll get the idea.
Posted by Allen McClung (amcclung@…>)
Thanks, Lance.
----- Original Message -----
From: lance_ryley
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 9:06 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Batteries
Here’s a link to an incomplete list of BCI Battery Groups and their metric and english sizes.http://www.rtpnet.org/~teaa/bcigroup.htmlLance--- In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “allenmcclung” <amcclung@f…> wrote:> I’ve been trying to get some of the things on my F-21 that are shown > on the Blue Merle. Can somebody tell me what he means by “Group 29” > batteries? > > If that’s an ignorant question, please forgive.> > Allen McClung
Posted by William A. Cormack (wacormack@…>)
Allen:
Beware the discount battery store. I used to buy cheap batteries that cost half as much as good ones but lasted only a year or two. Later I bought a Rolls and then a Surette which were 9 and 8 years old when I sold the boat and still going strong.
Bill
_________________________________________________William A. Cormack, CPAPrincipal and Chief Financial OfficerWhelan Associates, LLC, a Corporate Real Estate Service firmBourne Counting House at One Merrill’s WharfNew Bedford, MA 02740Voice: 508-984-4100, Fax: 508-984-4101, Cell 508-254-5828MailTo:wacormack@…
----- Original Message -----
From: Allen McClung
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Batteries
Okay, thanks. I’ll go to my local discount battery store and see what they’ve got. I printed out the picture of the battery setup on the Blue Merle. I’ll take that along with me. The print on the photo of the battery says “Trojan, deep cycle, something, something technical.” I’ve already got two marine batteries, one came with, and one I bought and put in my dock box. The Merle also has a switcher (I think), a round orange object, connected to what looks like an electrical panel and a smaller aluminum square box with a red light at the bottom. Then there’s a solar panel line going in someplace constantly charging the batteries. I’ve been trying to get one of my electric-savvy nautical buddies to explain this operation to me, but all they want to do is sail.
----- Original Message -----
From: katorpus
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 12:19 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Batteries
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “allenmcclung” <amcclung@f…> wrote:> I’ve been trying to get some of the things on my F-21 that are shown > on the Blue Merle. Can somebody tell me what he means by “Group 29” > batteries? > > If that’s an ignorant question, please forgive.> > Allen McClungHey Allen…we’re ALL ignorant until we find out the answers. No harm in ignoranceGroup size:A set of standard sizes for the external dimensions of a battery (and the terminal configuration), standardized by Battery Council International. All “group 29”, etc, batteries are the same size, though they may differ in weight and capacity. If you know the group size you’re looking for, then you know the battery will “fit” and you buy the battery within that group with the appropriate amp hour ratings etc for your application (higher amp hour rating = more lead= more weight in a given group size. GENERALLY, larger group size = larger dimensions…except that it gets weird 8D is a group size and they are HUGE. Wander down to Wally World or your local battery store and peruse the catalog for various sizes (in relation to what they fit into)and the racks of what’s there. You’ll get the idea.
Posted by Allen McClung (amcclung@…>)
Thanks, Bill. I printed your message out so I’ll have the brand names.
Allen
----- Original Message -----
From: William A. Cormack
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Batteries
Allen:
Beware the discount battery store. I used to buy cheap batteries that cost half as much as good ones but lasted only a year or two. Later I bought a Rolls and then a Surette which were 9 and 8 years old when I sold the boat and still going strong.
Bill
_________________________________________________William A. Cormack, CPAPrincipal and Chief Financial OfficerWhelan Associates, LLC, a Corporate Real Estate Service firmBourne Counting House at One Merrill’s WharfNew Bedford, MA 02740Voice: 508-984-4100, Fax: 508-984-4101, Cell 508-254-5828MailTo:wacormack@…
----- Original Message -----
From: Allen McClung
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Batteries
Okay, thanks. I’ll go to my local discount battery store and see what they’ve got. I printed out the picture of the battery setup on the Blue Merle. I’ll take that along with me. The print on the photo of the battery says “Trojan, deep cycle, something, something technical.” I’ve already got two marine batteries, one came with, and one I bought and put in my dock box. The Merle also has a switcher (I think), a round orange object, connected to what looks like an electrical panel and a smaller aluminum square box with a red light at the bottom. Then there’s a solar panel line going in someplace constantly charging the batteries. I’ve been trying to get one of my electric-savvy nautical buddies to explain this operation to me, but all they want to do is sail.
----- Original Message -----
From: katorpus
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 12:19 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Batteries
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “allenmcclung” <amcclung@f…> wrote:> I’ve been trying to get some of the things on my F-21 that are shown > on the Blue Merle. Can somebody tell me what he means by “Group 29” > batteries? > > If that’s an ignorant question, please forgive.> > Allen McClungHey Allen…we’re ALL ignorant until we find out the answers. No harm in ignoranceGroup size:A set of standard sizes for the external dimensions of a battery (and the terminal configuration), standardized by Battery Council International. All “group 29”, etc, batteries are the same size, though they may differ in weight and capacity. If you know the group size you’re looking for, then you know the battery will “fit” and you buy the battery within that group with the appropriate amp hour ratings etc for your application (higher amp hour rating = more lead= more weight in a given group size. GENERALLY, larger group size = larger dimensions…except that it gets weird 8D is a group size and they are HUGE. Wander down to Wally World or your local battery store and peruse the catalog for various sizes (in relation to what they fit into)and the racks of what’s there. You’ll get the idea.
Posted by Dave_Benjamin (dave_benjamin@…>)
I think proper maintenance and charging has a lot to do with it.
Rolls and Surrettes are fine batteries but you can get 8 or 10 years
out of golf cart batteries if they are properly cared for. Charging,
both dockside and at sea must be properly regulated and the batteries
must be maintained. Most quality inverters offer 3 or 4 stage
regulated charging when plugged into shore power. A good high output
regulator combined with a good charge controller will do the job
right when away from the dock. Charging voltage must be appropriate
for the battery type. AGM’s lead acid, and gel cells all use
different voltages. Check the manufacturers guidelines or the Calder
bible for specs. Finally a good monitoring system will tell you how
much of the bank is used up. I don’t like to run a bank below 50%. If
it’s a 400A bank once the monitor says 200A have been used it’s time
to crank the engine and start charging.
Don’t ask the batteries to do too much. As a general guideline try
not to place a load greater than 10% of the rated capacity of the
bank. IE: a typical bank of 4 T-105’s with a rated capacity of 440A
should not be subjected to a draw of greater than 44A. That means the
largest inverter size is around 1000W not the 2000W units commonly
installed. An isolator/eliminator should be used to maintain a charge
on the starting battery.
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “William A. Cormack”
<wacormack@w…> wrote:
Allen:
Beware the discount battery store. I used to buy cheap batteries
that cost half as much as good ones but lasted only a year or two.
Later I bought a Rolls and then a Surette which were 9 and 8 years
old when I sold the boat and still going strong.Bill
William A. Cormack, CPA
Principal and Chief Financial Officer
Whelan Associates, LLC, a Corporate Real Estate Service firm
Bourne Counting House at One Merrill’s Wharf
New Bedford, MA 02740
Voice: 508-984-4100, Fax: 508-984-4101, Cell 508-254-5828
MailTo:wacormack@w…
----- Original Message -----
From: Allen McClung
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Re: BatteriesOkay, thanks. I’ll go to my local discount battery store and see
what they’ve got. I printed out the picture of the battery setup on
the Blue Merle. I’ll take that along with me. The print on the photo
of the battery says “Trojan, deep cycle, something, something
technical.” I’ve already got two marine batteries, one came with, and
one I bought and put in my dock box. The Merle also has a switcher (I
think), a round orange object, connected to what looks like an
electrical panel and a smaller aluminum square box with a red light
at the bottom. Then there’s a solar panel line going in someplace
constantly charging the batteries. I’ve been trying to get one of my
electric-savvy nautical buddies to explain this operation to me, but
all they want to do is sail.----- Original Message -----
From: katorpus
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 12:19 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Batteries--- In <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>, "allenmcclung" <amcclung@f...> wrote: > I've been trying to get some of the things on my F-21 that
are
shown > on the Blue Merle. Can somebody tell me what he means
by "Group
29" > batteries? > > If that's an ignorant question, please forgive. > > Allen McClung Hey Allen...we're ALL ignorant until we find out the answers.
No
harm in ignorance Group size: A set of standard sizes for the external dimensions of a
battery
(and the terminal configuration), standardized by Battery
Council
International. All "group 29", etc, batteries are the same
size,
though they may differ in weight and capacity. If you know the
group
size you're looking for, then you know the battery will "fit"
and
you buy the battery within that group with the appropriate amp
hour
ratings etc for your application (higher amp hour rating = more lead= more weight in a given group size. GENERALLY, larger
group
size = larger dimensions...except that it gets weird 8D is a
group
size and they are HUGE. Wander down to Wally World or your local battery store and
peruse
the catalog for various sizes (in relation to what they fit
into)and
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Posted by William A. Cormack (wacormack@…>)
Can anyone comment on the condition of my batteries from the following:
I have two SeaVolt 105AH AGM batteries in my house bank and a group 27, flooded, maintenance free battery for engine starting. I charged the house batteries to 14.6 volts and the starting battery to 14.4 volts. Two weeks later voltage was 12.3 house and 12.25 starting at 40 degrees F. Using a 10 AMP charger on manual setting it took about 2 hours to return the house bank to 14.6 volts and about 10 minutes to get the starting battery back to 14.4. Readings are from link 2000 system.
Bill
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Posted by dexter silva (dsilvadcs@…>)
What was the voltage after 24 hours? That is really
the charge level you reached. You may want to run a
trickle charge for 2 or 3 days to top them off. Also
I always completely disconnect the batteries from the
system for the winter so they don’t drain down from
any possible low level current draw from boat
equipment.
Dexter Silva
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